Woj: Cavs fire David Blatt

[gordontrue]

This is a must read on Woj, whether you agree with my above post or not.

Relevant excerpt:


"His news scoops are accurate, however he procures them. On other subjects, though, his reporting has been consistently wrong, and he has lashed out with vicious opinion columns. His favorite targets include the New York Knicks management, the “Carolina way,” John Calipari, Larry Brown, college basketball coaches, former player’s union executive director Billy Hunter, agent David Falk, and Boston Celtics executive Danny Ainge. But Wojnarowski has saved his most lethal ammunition for the best player on the planet: LeBron James.
Wojnarowski’s problems with James are endless. He passes the ball to teammates and fails in the clutch (here and here and here). He had a me-first attitude during the 2004 Olympics (here and here and here). He doesn’t want “it” enough and is soft (here and here and here). He hangs out too much with his “sycophantic” high school buddies (here and here and here). “You can see something there that was very personal,” one team executive told me. "

 

[lebron23james]

People on this site now think it's dumb to max out lebron

I guess nike was dumb to offer leking a 500 million dollar contract

If only people took advice from the lebron haters on this board lol

 

[lebron23james]

It is true that Riley flew across the country in a desperate attempt to polish LeBron's nob once he got wind that he might be gone (Pat Riley is going to be 71 in March by the way- and it sure looks like he has lost about all the zip on that fastball). And you are right- LeBron texts something about that UConn PG- the Heat TRADE up to get him- and then get rid of him as soon as Bron is gone. I mean- the Heat even brought ZYDRUNAS to Miami for a season even though he was more cooked than Haslem currently is!....

but when you are as good as LeBron is thats just how it goes. Organizations would be crazy not to. Look at hte Cavs- they had to rebuild when LeBron left and were only poised to start winning again when Bron came back. look at the Heat- instead of rebuilding they are trying to squeeze some last winning seasons out of this team and they were 10th in the conference last year and are currently 8th this year after going to 4 straight Finals. THATs the impact this guy has.

I am more surprised that heat fans are still around on this board..this board is def the outlier....still hating on lebron, i mean look at their team after he left. He was their entire team.

Then they want to pretend he didn't have complete control over the heat organization. If lebron said it was me or riley they think the owner would turn down hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue to keep some old 71 year old after they bent to every whim lebron asked for...lol keep dreaming

I am not saying it is not dumb to give lebron what he wants but trying to convince yourself he didn't run that shit is hilarious...I even forgot about Z, i am sure pat really wanted Z on the team, def his decision once again

 

[bksballer89]

Cavs fans acting like lebron had nothing to do with this are delusional.

 

[lebron23james]

Cavs fans acting like lebron had nothing to do with this are delusional.

I actually liked blatt, but can we stop pretending that lebron didn't run things everywhere....I wouldn't be surprised if he runs things all the way up in the nba front office

Ever notice he is allowed to yell at refs all day long, but never gets a tech like other players

 

[bksballer89]

All these credible reporters saying almost the same shit about Lebron must be wrong according to cavs fans lol.

 

[lebron23james]

All these credible reporters saying almost the same shit about Lebron must be wrong according to cavs fans lol.

If lebron really ran the organization 100% like people say wouldn't blat have been fired on day 1?

 

[OutlawImmortal]

This is a must read on Woj, whether you agree with my above post or not.

Relevant excerpt:


"His news scoops are accurate, however he procures them. On other subjects, though, his reporting has been consistently wrong, and he has lashed out with vicious opinion columns. His favorite targets include the New York Knicks management, the “Carolina way,” John Calipari, Larry Brown, college basketball coaches, former player’s union executive director Billy Hunter, agent David Falk, and Boston Celtics executive Danny Ainge. But Wojnarowski has saved his most lethal ammunition for the best player on the planet: LeBron James.
Wojnarowski’s problems with James are endless. He passes the ball to teammates and fails in the clutch (here and here and here). He had a me-first attitude during the 2004 Olympics (here and here and here). He doesn’t want “it” enough and is soft (here and here and here). He hangs out too much with his “sycophantic” high school buddies (here and here and here). “You can see something there that was very personal,” one team executive told me. "

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call those articles "vicious".

 

[redseat]

I guess LeBron truly does run this team

 

[gordontrue]

Cavs fans acting like lebron had nothing to do with this are delusional.

Where all of these supposed cavs fans acting like he had nothing to do with it?

 

[gordontrue]

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call those articles "vicious".

Maybe. His opinion pieces definitely read more like forum posts to me, but that's just me.

Woj is the absolute best when it comes to breaking news.

But he has a very wide reputation of being pretty bad at opinion pieces. In terms of poor writing and being wrong. I'm not the only one saying this. Its easy to see and a lot of people see it.

 

[gordontrue]

Relevant to this thread...

Person A: Maybe there is something that can be done with current gun regulations to make things safer?

Person B: You want to ban all guns???!!! You think that will help!!?? What an idiot!!!

 

[trojanfan12]

I am extremely interested to see how they come out and play these next couple weeks.

Actually, we likely won't see the true result of this until a couple of weeks have passed. Initially, there will be a bit of an "interim coach effect" (even though Lue isn't an interim) where teams tend to play better for awhile under the interim coach. I would expect that the Cavs will play with more energy than we've been seeing for the next couple of weeks.

The real test will be after the "newness" wears off and they are into the daily grind of the season. If they continue to play well, then you probably have the right guy in place.

 

[trojanfan12]

And the Cav GM comes out and says, "Lebron doesn't run this team." Oh, yes he does.

If a GM has to come out and say that a player "doesn't run this team"...that player runs the team.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Actually, we likely won't see the true result of this until a couple of weeks have passed. Initially, there will be a bit of an "interim coach effect" (even though Lue isn't an interim) where teams tend to play better for awhile under the interim coach. I would expect that the Cavs will play with more energy than we've been seeing for the next couple of weeks.

The real test will be after the "newness" wears off and they are into the daily grind of the season. If they continue to play well, then you probably have the right guy in place.

They already do and have played well.
Beating up on anyone other then the Spurs, Warriors .
or whoever wins the West is the only test that matters.
You really think they will look any different on the court?
Of course they will try to destroy the Bulls tonight, but even if so, so what?

I think the next interesting decision will be how Love is handled, kept, or traded.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Actually, we likely won't see the true result of this until a couple of weeks have passed. Initially, there will be a bit of an "interim coach effect" (even though Lue isn't an interim) where teams tend to play better for awhile under the interim coach. I would expect that the Cavs will play with more energy than we've been seeing for the next couple of weeks.

The real test will be after the "newness" wears off and they are into the daily grind of the season. If they continue to play well, then you probably have the right guy in place.

I don't know, the Cavs won 11 of their last 13, not sure how they could play much better. The interim coach effect usually happens with terrible teams. Coaches who get fired after leading their team to the Finals and then get their team the #1 seed in their conference rarely ever happens. Which is what makes this story so huge.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Where all of these supposed cavs fans acting like he had nothing to do with it?

I never take the reporters and there stories as gospel.
Seems like they are all pretty consistent though.
Let's see if the Cavs come out and challenge any of it.

 

[trojanfan12]

but he definitely comes off as someone with an axe to grind when it comes to the subject of LeBron.

Maybe because Lebron has done and said a lot of stupid shit over the years. I actually liked Lebron when he was with the Cavs the first time. But it seems that ever since "The Decision" every time the turmoil and controversy around him starts to die down, he does or says something else to make himself look bad.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

I am more surprised that heat fans are still around on this board..this board is def the outlier....still hating on lebron, i mean look at their team after he left. He was their entire team

Yes, there were a ton of newly arrived HEAT fans in 2010, but most of the HEAT fans on here aren't them.
The HEAT fans on the board community have been exceedingly consistent and present.
Most of us posters have been on the NBA boards together since the mid-2000s or so....

@bksballer89 was a diehard HEAT fan since at least 2008 on these boards and has seen highs and lows.
Laker fans were pretty bad about that time to Heat fans and BK was carrying the Miami flag proudly.

As for Cavs fans, there was not a single one in existence on these boards from 2010-2014.

And the Spurs.....
Well, I think I was the only one from 2006-2015. We never have any fans good or bad.
until @TheKlaw came out of nowhere to double us up last year as some needed muscle.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Yes, there were a ton of newly arrived HEAT fans in 2010, but most of the HEAT fans on here aren't them.
The HEAT fans on the board community have been exceedingly consistent and present.
Most of us posters have been on the NBA boards together since the mid-2000s or so....

@bksballer89 was a diehard HEAT fan since at least 2008 on these boards and has seen highs and lows.
Laker fans were pretty bad about that time to Heat fans and BK was carrying the Miami flag proudly.

As for Cavs fans, there was not a single one in existence on these boards from 2010-2014.

And the Spurs.....
Well, I think I was the only one from 2006-2015. We never have any fans good or bad.
until @TheKlaw came out of nowhere to double us up last year as some needed muscle.

Shaneman was always a Cavalier fan but he also rooted for LeBron during his days in Miami. He might be the only Cav fan who wasn't bitter about LeBron leaving.