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No team has ever won the title without winning at least 44 games. So keep fighting for those low seeds but you ain't winning dick without going at least 44-38
 

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No team has ever won the title without winning at least 44 games. So keep fighting for those low seeds but you ain't winning dick without going at least 44-38
most successful runs by an 8th seed in the NBA playoffs

  • 5 most successful NBA playoff runs by an 8th seed ...
  • #1 1993-94: Denver Nuggets stun the Seattle Supersonics ...
  • #2 1998-99: New York Knicks have a historic run in the NBA playoffs ...
  • #3 2006-07: Golden State Warriors defeat the Dallas Mavericks ...
  • #4 2010-11: Memphis Grizzlies narrowly defeat the San Antonio Spurs ...
  • #5 2011-12: Philadelphia 76ers get lucky against the Chicago Bulls ...
 

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most successful runs by an 8th seed in the NBA playoffs

  • 5 most successful NBA playoff runs by an 8th seed ...
  • #1 1993-94: Denver Nuggets stun the Seattle Supersonics ...
  • #2 1998-99: New York Knicks have a historic run in the NBA playoffs ...
  • #3 2006-07: Golden State Warriors defeat the Dallas Mavericks ...
  • #4 2010-11: Memphis Grizzlies narrowly defeat the San Antonio Spurs ...
  • #5 2011-12: Philadelphia 76ers get lucky against the Chicago Bulls ...
And how many titles?
 

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And how many titles?
That article was disappointing because it didn't say, but it seems like to me that there was one - I agree that it won't ever happen with a team under 500, but a lot of people thought Portland was going to beat the Lakers in 2002 because they had such a good run at the end of the season - Same thing with the Lakers - If they go 20 out of 23 from now to the end, I might become a believer - but I am skeptical big time - Can't say it will never happen - even though it is like winning the lottery and going home with a few million dollars - lol, or like a man actually telling his wife what to do when it's usually the other way around
 

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That article was disappointing because it didn't say, but it seems like to me that there was one - I agree that it won't ever happen with a team under 500, but a lot of people thought Portland was going to beat the Lakers in 2002 because they had such a good run at the end of the season - Same thing with the Lakers - If they go 20 out of 23 from now to the end, I might become a believer - but I am skeptical big time - Can't say it will never happen - even though it is like winning the lottery and going home with a few million dollars - lol, or like a man actually telling his wife what to do when it's usually the other way around
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That article was disappointing because it didn't say, but it seems like to me that there was one - I agree that it won't ever happen with a team under 500, but a lot of people thought Portland was going to beat the Lakers in 2002 because they had such a good run at the end of the season - Same thing with the Lakers - If they go 20 out of 23 from now to the end, I might become a believer - but I am skeptical big time - Can't say it will never happen - even though it is like winning the lottery and going home with a few million dollars - lol, or like a man actually telling his wife what to do when it's usually the other way around
No, there hasn't been one. Lowest seed to win a title was the Rockets as a 6 seed and that was a wild outlier.

And since they aren't going 20-3 you don't have to be a 'believer', No team is going 20-3 to end the season.


2/3 of them are won by 1 seeds. And the lowest record to win a title was 44-38. Lakers aren't winning a title this year, and neither are the Warriors. The NBA format doesn't allow for upsets, 4 series of 7 games each, the best teams win.
 

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No team has ever won the title without winning at least 44 games. So keep fighting for those low seeds but you ain't winning dick without going at least 44-38

You mean with the current 82 game schedule right?
 

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No, there hasn't been one. Lowest seed to win a title was the Rockets as a 6 seed and that was a wild outlier.

And since they aren't going 20-3 you don't have to be a 'believer', No team is going 20-3 to end the season.


70% of them are won by 1 seeds. And the lowest record to win a title was 44-38. Lakers aren't winning a title this year, and neither are the Warriors. The NBA format doesn't allow for upsets, 4 series of 7 games each, the best teams win.
I agree for the most part - but mathematically it can happen - For some or many in here - they hang on to the delusion that will be their team based on the 000.10 percent chance - Reminds of some asswipes back in 2001 when the Lakers were really good - some of them were suggesting that the Lakers were so good, they could win all 82 games - They got pissed as hell when I told them it would never happen - not in our life time
 

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You mean with the current 82 game schedule right?
I guess so, has any team with a different schedule won with less than 44 wins?

Looked it up, yes back in the 50s a couple teams won with less but they only played 72 or 68 or even 66 games total so their under 44 wins were better winning %s than 44-38

 

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I agree for the most part - but mathematically it can happen - For some or many in here - they hang on to the delusion that will be their team based on the 000.10 percent chance - Reminds of some asswipes back in 2001 when the Lakers were really good - some of them were suggesting that the Lakers were so good, they could win all 82 games - They got pissed as hell when I told them it would never happen - not in our life time
'Mathematically' doesn't mean shit. Mathematically you can go 82-0 as you mention, so why even say there's a chance? There isn't. Lakers will not be winning the title this year.
 

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'Mathematically' doesn't mean shit. Mathematically you can go 82-0 as you mention, so why even say there's a chance? There isn't. Lakers will not be winning the title this year.
Like I said before - I agree for the most part - but there can be a first time for some things- The reason it won't happen is because every team plays a high quality game part of the time, but are inconsistent -I told friend last year when the Lakers went -10, that the Lakers wasn't winning shit - he wanted to know why--um 2 and 10 - hello!!!!

To win a championship - you have to start out the best, there is still that small chance. Rob Pelinka already said that the trades were intended to get ready for next season - that was a fairly decent admission that this year is lost and I think he knew that back in October
 

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Like I said before - I agree for the most part - but there can be a first time for some things- The reason it won't happen is because every team plays a high quality game part of the time, but are inconsistent -I told friend last year when the Lakers went -10, that the Lakers wasn't winning shit - he wanted to know why--um 2 and 10 - hello!!!!

To win a championship - you have to start out the best, there is still that small chance. Rob Pelinka already said that the trades were intended to get ready for next season - that was a fairly decent admission that this year is lost and I think he knew that back in October
Doesn't matter if you agree for the most part or if you agree 100% or if you don't agree at all. The Lakers aren't winning the title this year. Like you said, Pelinka knows this too. Neither are my Warriors.
 

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Doesn't matter if you agree for the most part or if you agree 100% or if you don't agree at all. The Lakers aren't winning the title this year. Neither are my Warriors.
Personally - I don't think any of the teams look unbeatable - but I really do not want the Lakers to win because I don't think they deserve it - when you play like shit the entire year - you shouldn't be rewarded
 

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Personally - I don't think any of the teams look unbeatable - but I really do not want the Lakers to win because I don't think they deserve it - when you play like shit the entire year - you shouldn't be rewarded
If you play like shit all year then get hot in the playoffs of course you 'deserve it' and if the Lakers did it you'd be ecstatic. Are you drunk right now?
 

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I guess so, has any team with a different schedule won with less than 44 wins?

Looked it up, yes back in the 50s a couple teams won with less but they only played 72 or 68 or even 66 games total so their under 44 wins were better winning %s than 44-38


First gotta say didn't notice the 44-38 winning % part. That changes things. Was talking about the '52 Minneapolis Lakers who went 40-26. But their winning % that season was .606.
 

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First gotta say didn't notice the 44-38 winning % part. That changes things. Was talking about the '52 Minneapolis Lakers who went 40-26. But their winning % that season was .606.
Exactly. So today if you win less than 44 games you ain't winning the title. And if you're less than the 3 seed you ain't either.
 

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most successful runs by an 8th seed in the NBA playoffs

  • 5 most successful NBA playoff runs by an 8th seed ...
  • #1 1993-94: Denver Nuggets stun the Seattle Supersonics ...
  • #2 1998-99: New York Knicks have a historic run in the NBA playoffs ...
  • #3 2006-07: Golden State Warriors defeat the Dallas Mavericks ...
  • #4 2010-11: Memphis Grizzlies narrowly defeat the San Antonio Spurs ...
  • #5 2011-12: Philadelphia 76ers get lucky against the Chicago Bulls ...

Whoever made this list is out of their mind not to put the Knicks at number 1.

They made the Finals!

As fun as that Nuggets win was, if we are ranking the best “runs” by an 8 seed, the answer is the team that went the furthest.
 

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Whoever made this list is out of their mind not to put the Knicks at number 1.

They made the Finals!

As fun as that Nuggets win was, if we are ranking the best “runs” by an 8 seed, the answer is the team that went the furthest.
Don't blame me - I just found the list - I thought there was a few that made it close - and truthfully - the fact that they made it to the finals - proves they could have won - It only takes a few shots going in instead of missing to change it. That is why I believe that it is possible for an 8th seeded team to win even though the chances are extremely little
 

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Don't blame me - I just found the list - I thought there was a few that made it close - and truthfully - the fact that they made it to the finals - proves they could have won - It only takes a few shots going in instead of missing to change it. That is why I believe that it is possible for an 8th seeded team to win even though the chances are extremely little

Not blaming you.

Also though… that team had a lot of things happen that made this run possible.

Injuries and severe underachieving in the strike shortened 50 game regular season caused them to be very underseeded relative to their talent.

Not unlike the Lakers, which I know is your point.

However, they also got beat pretty handily by the Spurs, losing in 5 games despite the middle 3 being at the Garden.

I don’t think the Knicks had much chance to actually win the Finals.
 

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Twolves could win out the rest of the season and I would still not put money on them to make the second round
 
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