Will Julius Peppers go down as a top 10 defensive player of all time?

[beardown07]

 

[broncosmitty]

Wait.... @PredatorPeppers is still on this site?



Have you just been hanging out in this thread the whole time? lel wtf

Id love to know who's Alt he Is.

Like most, I assume it's Hammer. (As well as a couple of screennames that were created within days of the OP.)

 

[Battlelyon]

Will Peppers go down as a top 10 defensive player of all time when he decides to hang em up? Considering he is athletic enough and could play until he is 40 and can still produce big seasons. He's also imo along with Ray Lewis the most dominant defensive player of this generation, more so than guys like DeMarcus Ware, Jared Allen, Michael Strahan, Jason Taylor, Dwight Freeney, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Darrelle Revis, Charles Woodson, Brian Urlacher, Patrick Willis, Warren Sapp, etc.

My top 10 defensive players of all time, with Peppers getting consideration to crack the list once he finishes his career and adds to his already HOF resume.

1. Reggie White
2. Lawrence Taylor
3. Dick Butkus
4. Rod Woodson
5. Joe Greene
6. Ray Lewis
7. Deacon Jones
8. Ronnie Lott
9. Alan Page
10. Bruce Smith

HM: Deion Sanders

Julius Peppers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

College Football Awards and honors

Sporting News Freshman All-American (1999)
First-team All-ACC (2000)
Second-team Associated Press All-American (2000)
Second-team Football News All-American (2000)
Division I-A sacks leader (2000)
First-team All-ACC (2001)
Consensus first-team All-American (2001)
Bronko Nagurski Trophy finalist (2001)
Chuck Bednarik Award (2001)
Bill Willis Trophy (2001)
Lombardi Award (2001)

NFL awards and honors

NFL Rookie of the Month (10/02)
2002 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year
Pro Football Weekly All-Rookie Team (2002)
2004 NFL Alumni Defensive Lineman of the Year
2004 NFC Defensive Player of the Year
2013 Brian Piccolo Award
NFL 2000s All Decade Team
Pro-Football-Reference All 2000s Team
100 Sacks Club
2004, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 NFC Pro Bowl
2004, 2006, 2010 All-Pro First Team
2008, 2009, 2012 All-Pro Second Team
Five time NFC Defensive Player of the Week (11/13/06, 11/9/08, 11/1/09, 11/18/10,12/23/12)
Four time NFC Defensive Player of the Month (11/2004, 10/2006, 11/2010, 11/2011)

Panthers franchise records

Most career sacks: (81)
Most career forced fumbles: (30)
Longest Interception return: 97 yards (vs. Denver Broncos 10/10/04)

NFL records and accomplishments

Eighteenth most sacks in NFL history: 115.5
Tied for fifth most double digit sack seasons in NFL history: 8
Tied for fourth most games with at least three sacks: 9
Tied for fifteenth most multiple sack games in NFL history: 29
Tenth most forced fumbles in NFL history: 38
Second most interceptions by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 9
Most interception return yards by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 192 yds
Most interception return yards in a single season by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 143 yds
Most interception return yards in a single game by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 97 yds
Longest interception return by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 97 yds
Most combined interception and fumble return yards by a defensive lineman in a single season since NFL merger in 1970: 203 yds
Tied for second most interceptions returned for a touchdown by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 2
Third most passes defensed by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 61
Second most blocked kicks in NFL history: 13
Tied for eleventh most Pro Bowl appearances by a defensive lineman in NFL history: 8

You seriously have Deacon Jones as the seventh best.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Ditto.

You'll see, you'll all see, Knicks are going to dominate for years to come thanks to Mr. Hardaway, bwahahahahahaha

If you needed confirmation this guy uses googlum ad argumentum.

 

[beardown07]

Id love to know who's Alt he Is.

Like most, I assume it's Hammer. (As well as a couple of screennames that were created within days of the OP.)

I wanna know who, but don't gaf enough to do the legwork

 

[Shanemansj13]

Peppers is not better than urlacher........

Yes he is and I don't think it is close tbh

 

[Shanemansj13]

maybe body of work, not in a bears uniform

Peppers only played 4 seasons in Chicago, Urlacher spent his entire career....not really a fair comparison in the first place. He had some great years as a Bear still in his short stint.

Overall though, Peppers is a much better overall player than Urlacher.

 

[Shanemansj13]

He still isn't a top 10 defensive player in my book, even as great as he is.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Yes. Absolutely.

 

[Battlelyon]

Yes. Absolutely.

Really?

Reggie White, LT, Deacon, Ronnie Lott, Joe Greene, Deion, Olsen, Butkus, Ed Reed, Blount, Lilly

Those 11 were better, right off the bat

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Really?

Reggie White, LT, Deacon, Ronnie Lott, Joe Greene, Deion, Olsen, Butkus, Ed Reed, Blount, Lilly

Those 11 were better, right off the bat

Nope.

 

[Battlelyon]

Nope.

Ok, who was he better than on that list.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Ok, who was he better than on that list.

I got better things to do with my time, brotha.

 

[SteelersPride]

Peppers only played 4 seasons in Chicago, Urlacher spent his entire career....not really a fair comparison in the first place. He had some great years as a Bear still in his short stint.

Overall though, Peppers is a much better overall player than Urlacher.

Meh diff positions

 

[richig07]

I don't know... he was one of the best of this generation. That's for sure.

Football is the toughest sport to run comparisons across multiple decades

 

[Pure Steel]

Yes he is and I don't think it is close tbh

Last time I saw Urlacher, he was the victim of a hit and run.....They never got the plates of the Bus......

 

[CaptainStubing]

these conversations are never cut and dry ... too many variables involved .... what era did each play in? .... what systems did each play in? ... what role(s) were they asked to play for their teams?

there is no true black or white answer

 

[richig07]

these conversations are never cut and dry ... too many variables involved .... what era did each play in? .... what systems did each play in? ... what role(s) were they asked to play for their teams?

there is no true black or white answer

Exactly. Not to mention, with guys like Urlacher/Singletary... I just don't think it is fair to Peppers nor them to really compare them head-to-head as players. What Urlacher and Singletary both brought to the game as basically QB's of their respective dominant defense's cannot be understated either. Both were great leaders, with high IQ's and in total command out there. However, again... it's not fair to Peppers to fault him for that as it was not his job and I think he impacted the game in ways that those two did not as well.

I just know that in 2010 and 2011 when Urlacher/Peppers were both still in their prime together on the same unit - it was really exciting as a fan when they would get on a roll. Two absurdly gifted athletes.