will Alex Smith get Kolb or Fitzpatrick money?

[clyde_carbon]

Bulimic?

Kinda.

 

[bigpb72]

HeLL naw get A QB..... Dixon, Vince Young, Matt Flynn, Kyle Orton Josh Jhonson all better then Smith

 

[sayheykid1]

NFL.com news: Bills' Fitzpatrick to sign six-year extension worth up to $60 million

Averages to about $10M/year.

Kolb and Fitzpatrick haven't won squat yet and Kolb is not playing well.

Do you think Alex will get such a contract out of the 49ers and when? Before the playoffs? After the playoffs?

Alex is eventually probably going to lose a game in the playoffs possibly @ GB, you think this will have a negative effect on the contract extension?

IMO, he is not the QB of the 49ers future.

 

[sayheykid1]

NFL.com news: Bills' Fitzpatrick to sign six-year extension worth up to $60 million

Averages to about $10M/year.

Kolb and Fitzpatrick haven't won squat yet and Kolb is not playing well.

Do you think Alex will get such a contract out of the 49ers and when? Before the playoffs? After the playoffs?

Alex is eventually probably going to lose a game in the playoffs possibly @ GB, you think this will have a negative effect on the contract extension?

Fitpatrick has been much better than Smith.

 

[RedneckNiner]

One of the sure fire signs of the Apocolypse... Niner fans actually WANTING ton resign Alex

 

[MW49ers5]

One of the sure fire signs of the Apocolypse... Niner fans actually WANTING to resign Alex

LOL!! Repped!

 

[Mozart'sGhost]

Let's see a little more consistency out of him for a longer period of time first. The game-winning TD pass aside, I did not like what I saw in Detroit.

 

[Flyingiguana]

Can we just give him league min and tell him he still owes us from his fat rookie contract he didnt deserve? Lol

or maybe we should get nolan to reimburse part of smith's salary

 

[clyde_carbon]

HeLL naw get A QB..... Dixon, Vince Young, Matt Flynn, Kyle Orton Josh Jhonson all better then Smith

No thanks. If you like them though, that's on you.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Let's see a little more consistency out of him for a longer period of time first. The game-winning TD pass aside, I did not like what I saw in Detroit.

The irony behind that is that Smith misread that coverage. According to Mangini, he read man to man when it was zone. If Delmas didn't kick a step outside on Walker it likely would've been a pick 6.

 

[MHSL82]

The irony behind that is that Smith misread that coverage. According to Mangini, he read man to man when it was zone. If Delmas didn't kick a step outside on Walker it likely would've been a pick 6.

Well, yeah, if Delmas knew exactly where it was going to go and knew not to be drawn to Crabtree, he would have gone inside and picked it or at least stopped him short. But the play-call, read (even if wrong), and execution was effective as designed (not by luck or bad defense). If he had correctly read it as zone, the decision to throw it there is the same, as a throw to Crabtree would have been more risky, in terms of INT/INC (granted that it was still risky that Delanie wouldn't cross the plain). If he decided not to throw it to either because of the zone, who knows what happens? A sack?

Alex can't get credit for the defender choosing to go outside instead of inside - that should go to Harbaugh in drawing it up. True, Harbaugh when he calls a play doesn't know exactly where everyone will be, but he has an idea. I rewatched the play and it seems, ignoring the result, Delmas did what he could. It didn't seem he'd have time to go inside. The play no doubt was designed to draw him outside. It wasn't a material misread, just a misread - as it seems to me, despite the misread, everyone was where they were supposed to be. I may be giving Harbaugh too much credit, but that's how I see it. If Walker's knees hit the grass before crossing the plain, we would be blaming Smith or Harbaugh, so when it works, I choose to give them credit/benefit of the doubt. So it's not perfect, but I don't see it as the defender messing up by luck so much as the defender falling for it the way we planned.

As for being a pick 6, I don't know, but it certainly would have ended the game.

 

[clyde_carbon]

Well, yeah, if Delmas knew exactly where it was going to go and knew not to be drawn to Crabtree, he would have gone inside and picked it or at least stopped him short. But the play-call, read (even if wrong), and execution was effective as designed (not by luck or bad defense). If he had correctly read it as zone, the decision to throw it there is the same, as a throw to Crabtree would have been more risky, in terms of INT/INC (granted that it was still risky that Delanie wouldn't cross the plain). If he decided not to throw it to either because of the zone, who knows what happens? A sack?

Alex can't get credit for the defender choosing to go outside instead of inside - that should go to Harbaugh in drawing it up. True, Harbaugh when he calls a play doesn't know exactly where everyone will be, but he has an idea. I rewatched the play and it seems, ignoring the result, Delmas did what he could. It didn't seem he'd have time to go inside. The play no doubt was designed to draw him outside. It wasn't a material misread, just a misread - as it seems to me, despite the misread, everyone was where they were supposed to be. I may be giving Harbaugh too much credit, but that's how I see it. If Walker's knees hit the grass before crossing the plain, we would be blaming Smith or Harbaugh, so when it works, I choose to give them credit/benefit of the doubt. So it's not perfect, but I don't see it as the defender messing up so much as the defender falling for it the way we planned.

As for being a pick 6, I don't know, but it certainly would have ended the game.

Give him all of the credit you want. Give him a 100mil contract. Extend him for 10 more years. I couldn't care less. But let's not act as if that play couldn't have EASILY gone in a completely different direction. It was a nice throw, but a very poor read that would have ended badly had it not been for Louis Delmas' stupidity.

Do you disagree with that?

 

[MHSL82]

Give him all of the credit you want. Give him a 100mil contract. Extend him for 10 more years. I couldn't care less. But let's not act as if that play couldn't have EASILY gone in a completely different direction. It was a nice throw, but a very poor read that would have ended badly had it not been for Louis Delmas' stupidity.

Do you disagree with that?

I'm not giving him any more credit than the throw, not asking to extend him. I was giving credit to the playcall for causing that stupidity, not just luck. As for the read, I'd leave it as a poor read and due to the playcall an inconsequential poor read. I still don't think Delmas could get there bgecause he did what we thought and hoped he'd do.

 

[Kendal]

I doubt there will be a lot of interest for Smith outside of the 49ers. At least not for a starting job. Most teams will attribute Smith's success (if it continues) to Harbaugh and since they don't have Harbaugh, they will probably not be confident in Smith as a long term starting QB option. Plus Smith would probably choose to stay with the 49ers if the money is close so he can stay with Harbaugh. just sayin...

 

[SY8goat]

I doubt there will be a lot of interest for Smith outside of the 49ers. At least not for a starting job. Most teams will attribute Smith's success (if it continues) to Harbaugh and since they don't have Harbaugh, they will probably not be confident in Smith as a long term starting QB option. Plus Smith would probably choose to stay with the 49ers if the money is close so he can stay with Harbaugh. just sayin...

Smith will return, unless he goes to crap. Why the hell would he want to learn another playbook and leave daddy Harbs?

 

[SeattleNinersFan]

The irony behind that is that Smith misread that coverage. According to Mangini, he read man to man when it was zone. If Delmas didn't kick a step outside on Walker it likely would've been a pick 6.

Are we just beliving Mangini that it was a misread or is there other evidence that it was a misread?

 

[MHSL82]

Are we just beliving Mangini that it was a misread or is there other evidence that it was a misread?

I think it's taking him for his word. It was a zone, but I don't know what Alex thought it was. I don't recall whether they had been playing zone all day, all drive, that set of downs (knowing it would be a pass), or switched for that play. That play seemed to be drawn well for both. If Crabtree had sold it more (maybe he wasn't a decoy though) Walker wouldn't have been close to being down before the endzone. Perhaps it would have worked better for a man-to-man and that's why Mangini assumed that was what Alex thought it was. Maybe Mangini thought Alex wouldn't have called that for a zone and therefore must have misread it. Man or zone, it appeared Crabtree was supposed to draw Delmas outside and if not the pass was to go to Crabtree. The play happens so fast I can't imagine having to decide that quickly. So either Alex was quick or that was the designed play and designed response by Delmas. Again, I think his wrong decision helped, but I don't think it was unintentional on our part. At worst it was a variable in which Alex had a choice.

 

[MHSL82]

Give him all of the credit you want. Give him a 100mil contract. Extend him for 10 more years. I couldn't care less. But let's not act as if that play couldn't have EASILY gone in a completely different direction. It was a nice throw, but a very poor read that would have ended badly had it not been for Louis Delmas' stupidity.

Do you disagree with that?

I'm not giving him any more credit than the throw, not asking to extend him. I was giving credit to the playcall for causing that stupidity, not just luck. As for the read, I'd leave it as a poor read and due to the playcall an inconsequential poor read. I still don't think Delmas could get there bgecause he did what we thought and hoped he'd do.

On that note, why was it a "very" poor read as opposed to a poor read. I'm not a fan of stronger depictions of things and that's why I ask. Was it obvious that it was zone by the formation? Was it obvious because of what defense they had been using up until that point? Was it obvious based upon what teams historically do in that situation? Was it a particular Detroit type of defense (to go zone)? Because for it to be a "very" poor read as opposed to a poor read, it would have to be one of those... or you simply like writing in stronger ways. You have repeatedly said things to the extreme, like Alex can't ever read a defense, has no pocket presence, etc. when saying that he does it rarely or poorly should suffice.

As for that it EASILY could have been something else, a lot of plays could easily be terrible. In hindsight, if Delmas knew that's where he was going, he would have easily changed his position, but in football, you have to guess sometimes, and my guess is that Harbaugh and Crew believed that to be a likely mistake by Delmas. If Delmas had gone inside (showed that he was going inside), perhaps Smith would have tried Crabtree? (Or held on and got sacked).

 

[Flyingiguana]

I doubt there will be a lot of interest for Smith outside of the 49ers. At least not for a starting job. Most teams will attribute Smith's success (if it continues) to Harbaugh and since they don't have Harbaugh, they will probably not be confident in Smith as a long term starting QB option. Plus Smith would probably choose to stay with the 49ers if the money is close so he can stay with Harbaugh. just sayin...

i honestly could see shanahan or norv going for smith.

 

[mem49er]

i honestly could see shanahan or norv going for smith.

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