Where Does Edelman's Catch Rank in Post Season History??

[broncosmitty]

He made steps after catching the ball.And had control and his other hand between the ball and the turf.


The Edelman play should have been offensive pass interference. He was clearly obstructing the Atlanta defender.From catching the ball with his feet


Seriously the catch rule is so inconsistent it has to go

Touchdown!

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I beg your pardon?

I think he's new to the game smitty.Probably the only Rams fan that thinks Flipper was a Dolphin imo

 

[BF4L]

Back to #11's catch. Was it lucky? Yes it was but these guys are the best (NFL receiver's) We normal people cant imagine the amount of concentration it takes to even attempt a catch like that one. IMO

 

[shopson67]

All I know is Dez made a brazillion moves with a ball folks will tell you he had no control over.

I saw Cole Beasley make an almost similar play, but he never went up ion the air, he merely had the ball and dove, losing it as it hit the turf, but the call of TD stood.

A bazillion moves with the ball don't matter if his momentum is to the ground as the catch is being completed.

 

[shopson67]

I think he's new to the game smitty.Probably the only Rams fan that thinks Flipper was a Dolphin imo

Rams fan since I saw them in the '79 playoffs as a kid.

I'm new to the game because you can't understand a simple rule? Deflect much?

 

[Hank Kingsley]

A bazillion moves with the ball don't matter if his momentum is to the ground as the catch is being completed.

complete control of the ball.

Dez caught that fucking ball and made a football move....

 

[Clayton]

Catch was exceptionally lucky for the most part. Reminded me of when Nebraska beat Mizzou when one of their players intentionally kicked a ball into another receiver for a TD.

That said, he still did everything right on that play and made it. Its a great play for sure. I'd put it just behind the Helmet Catch and Santonio Holmes against the Cardinals in terms of NFL catch importance. So 3rd in my lifetime imo.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Rams fan since I saw them in the '79 playoffs as a kid.

I'm new to the game because you can't understand a simple rule? Deflect much?

It wouldn't have mattered if the ball was deflected. Dez still would have made a hell of a catch. There's only one simple rule catch the ball two feet down in bounds. The rule you speak of is not even really so much a rule. As a vague interpretation. That allows the officials far too much influence on what they deems catch. And negatively impacting games. It's already been shrouded in several controversies. It's time the NFL drops these pussification rules. And gets back to real football

 

[shopson67]

It wouldn't have mattered if the ball was deflected. Dez still would have made a hell of a catch. There's only one simple rule catch the ball two feet down in bounds. The rule you speak of is not even really so much a rule. As a vague interpretation. That allows the officials far too much influence on what they deems catch. And negatively impacting games. It's already been shrouded in several controversies. It's time the NFL drops these pussification rules. And gets back to real football

It is indeed part of the rule:

ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:

1. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
2. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
3. maintains control of the ball after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, until he has the ball long enough to clearly become a runner. A player has the ball long enough to become a runner when, after his second foot is on the ground, he is capable of avoiding or warding off impending contact of an opponent, tucking the ball away, turning up field, or taking additional steps (see 3-2-7-Item 2).

Note: If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered a loss of possession. He must lose control of the ball in order to rule that there has been a loss of possession.

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any part of his body to the ground, it is not a catch.

Item 1. Player Going to the Ground. A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

Item 2. Sideline Catches. If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an opponent) in the process of making a catch at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, or the pass is incomplete.

Item 3. End Zone Catches. The requirements for a catch in the end zone are the same as the requirements for a catch in the field of play.

Note: In the field of play, if a catch of a forward pass has been completed, after which contact by a defender causes the ball to become loose before the runner is down by contact, it is a fumble, and the ball remains alive. In the end zone, the same action is a touchdown, since the receiver completed the catch beyond the goal line prior to the loss of possession, and the ball is dead when the catch is completed.

Item 4. Ball Touches Ground. If the ball touches the ground after the player secures control of it, it is a catch, provided that the player continues to maintain control.

Item 5. Simultaneous Catch. If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball.

Item 6. Carried Out of Bounds. If a player, who is in possession of the ball, is held up and carried out of bounds by an opponent before both feet or any part of his body other than his hands touches the ground inbounds, it is a completed or intercepted pass. It is not necessary for the player to maintain control of the ball when he lands out of bounds.

 

[shopson67]

complete control of the ball.

Dez caught that fucking ball and made a football move....

Item 1. Player Going to the Ground. A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

 

[soxfan1468927]

He made steps after catching the ball.And had control and his other hand between the ball and the turf.


The Edelman play should have been offensive pass interference. He was clearly obstructing the Atlanta defender.From catching the ball with his feet


Seriously the catch rule is so inconsistent it has to go

Tipped ball on the Edelman catch. He can shove the guy to the ground if he wants.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

And he did when he got 2 feet down, a third and lunged.....

 

[TheRobotDevil]

It is indeed part of the rule:

ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:

1. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
2. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
3. maintains control of the ball after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, until he has the ball long enough to clearly become a runner. A player has the ball long enough to become a runner when, after his second foot is on the ground, he is capable of avoiding or warding off impending contact of an opponent, tucking the ball away, turning up field, or taking additional steps (see 3-2-7-Item 2).

Note: If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered a loss of possession. He must lose control of the ball in order to rule that there has been a loss of possession.

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any part of his body to the ground, it is not a catch.

Item 1. Player Going to the Ground. A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.

Item 2. Sideline Catches. If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an opponent) in the process of making a catch at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, or the pass is incomplete.

Item 3. End Zone Catches. The requirements for a catch in the end zone are the same as the requirements for a catch in the field of play.

Note: In the field of play, if a catch of a forward pass has been completed, after which contact by a defender causes the ball to become loose before the runner is down by contact, it is a fumble, and the ball remains alive. In the end zone, the same action is a touchdown, since the receiver completed the catch beyond the goal line prior to the loss of possession, and the ball is dead when the catch is completed.

Item 4. Ball Touches Ground. If the ball touches the ground after the player secures control of it, it is a catch, provided that the player continues to maintain control.

Item 5. Simultaneous Catch. If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball.

Item 6. Carried Out of Bounds. If a player, who is in possession of the ball, is held up and carried out of bounds by an opponent before both feet or any part of his body other than his hands touches the ground inbounds, it is a completed or intercepted pass. It is not necessary for the player to maintain control of the ball when he lands out of bounds.

I'm not readinva copy and paste that I already know. Pasting a flawed rule does not change the flaws. Maybe posting the multitude of instances it was used. To eraticate legitimate receptions, TD's negated. As well as the games it directly influenced. May give you a clearer perspective

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Tipped ball on the Edelman catch. He can shove the guy to the ground if he wants.

Both were good catches thankfully the NFL didn't botch that one

 

[TheRobotDevil]

And he did when he got 2 feet down, a third and lunged.....

Lunging for the end zone is not only a football move. But an exceptional football move. Tgats putting in the extra drive to cross the goal line and put points on the board. The only one who dropped the ball on the Dez catch is the NFL. They knew it that's why they tried altering the rule. Rather than ditching it as they should.

 

[shopson67]

I'm not readinva copy and paste that I already know. Pasting a flawed rule does not change the flaws. Maybe posting the multitude of instances it was used. To eraticate legitimate receptions, TD's negated. As well as the games it directly influenced. May give you a clearer perspective

There has to be a rule of some sort. What do you suggest to clean it up? Control with two feet on the ground is all it takes? You're going to get a lot of questionable catches called good in that case. It's not like receivers are struggling in the league these days; they're dominating.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

There has to be a rule of some sort. What do you suggest to clean it up? Control with two feet on the ground is all it takes? You're going to get a lot of questionable catches called good in that case. It's not like receivers are struggling in the league these days; they're dominating.

What's wrong with allowing receivers to just do their job. Like they always did. Why do you feel we need a rule that has proven to be detrimental to the game?

 

[Wazmankg]

Edelmans catch was a Kearse-like fluke for sure. What was amazing about it for me is that he lost control of it and still managed to get his hands underneath it an inch from the ground.

That final snatch just as it was about to hit the ground was impressive.

 

[Wazmankg]

He made steps after catching the ball.And had control and his other hand between the ball and the turf.


The Edelman play should have been offensive pass interference. He was clearly obstructing the Atlanta defender.From catching the ball with his feet


Seriously the catch rule is so inconsistent it has to go

I detest the Boys, but that was a catch.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I detest the Boys, but that was a catch.

I'm far from a cowboys fan but a catch is a catch. Didn't Calvin Johnson get screwed over by that junk rule too tho? Pretty sure I remember a gaff with golden tate and the rule as well.