fredmccallyRTR
Well-Known Member
I always thought Suh was just over-compensating because of man-boobs. 

Suh destroys Atkins. It's not even a discussion I could pretend to take seriously. Green is borderline top 5, but Suh is hands down, no serious dispute, best at his position. The idea that he's a liability when he has corrected the flags and half of them weren't legitimate in the first place is outright laughable as well.
Nah nah nah. Suh is the MF'n Rain King.
Plug Suh into the 60's - 70's NFL, with the same mentality of Greene/Butkus/Lambert/Lane etc..., and Suh would be mauling the smaller, weaker and less athletic RBs, OLinemen, and QBs. He would be of legendary status a la the aforementioned defensive players.
Suh destroys Atkins. It's not even a discussion I could pretend to take seriously. Green is borderline top 5, but Suh is hands down, no serious dispute, best at his position. The idea that he's a liability when he has corrected the flags and half of them weren't legitimate in the first place is outright laughable as well.
Suh is awesome, but greatest player ever?? Pfft. He isn't even the best player on his team!?
guess all that "players are bigger and faster than they have ever been" is hogwash...yes put any players from now and put them in the 60's and 70's most of them would dominate, lol...great point.
No, not all of them....but check the averages. Let Suh play balls out, the way the game was meant to be played, just like his predecessors..
Now check yourself you guddamn, second rate, cheap ass, no pussy getting, shit startin,' ass sniffin,' cow poking, bass ackwards KC fan.
Go Tigers!
Plug Suh into the 60's - 70's NFL, with the same mentality of Greene/Butkus/Lambert/Lane etc..., and Suh would be mauling the smaller, weaker and less athletic RBs, OLinemen, and QBs. He would be of legendary status a la the aforementioned defensive players.
This.
If Suh played then the game would be ugly, and he would be referred to as GOAT for Defense.
I'm not even talking about flags, you can be a liability and not draw flags big guy.
I'm talking about playing downhill so aggressively and not paying attention to the field so that you can be had by things like cut backs, screens or stunts. Suh wins the highlight reel award for DTs and he has improved in these areas this year compared to previous, but Atkins is a more complete player.
If Suh played back then, Dick Butkus would have ripped his nuts off in a pile and then he would learn WHEN to behave.
You know they both play defense right... and Butkus was always a choirboy on the field ? :rollseyes:
He's easily the best defensive player on his team. Fairley is good, but he doesn't bring it every down, pursue downfield, etc. He's nowhere near the complete package Suh is.