What is going on with Scott McCloughan?

[skinsdad62]

the thing i have maintained all along is give me fucking facts not speculation and call it gospel

we dont know

also the skins used SM's scouting service when BA was making picks we came away with 4 starters

SM wasnt at the combine then either

 

[Ritzarmy]

Yeah, the scariest news is that Bruce Allen is in charge. That's the red flag that's stuck up... well. It doesn't bode well. It seemed like the franchise was headed in the right direction, and now we're likely reverting to the bad old days. I hope I'm wrong.

and hoping we all are over blowing this and Scot was actually just grieving and not (insert excuse here) Only time will deal but the signs aren't pointing in the right direction for us. With Allen & Snyder running the ship during free agency I see us giving to many years on a contract plus tons of money to a 30yr old Campbell plus others. I would like to see them add players like (listed below at reasonable prices not Snyders expertise)
1. Tony Jefferson - S
2. Brandon Williams - NT (but not to many years since 28)
3. Zach Brown - LB (if can fit our scheme)
4. Rick Perry - OLB (especially since Murphy is gone 1st 4 games)
5. Robert Woods - WR
6. 3-4 DE

Of course we can find some players in the draft but we need to make sure we also address some of the defense through free agency at responsible and yearly friendly contracts.

 

[Ritzarmy]

the thing i have maintained all along is give me fucking facts not speculation and call it gospel

we dont know

also the skins used SM's scouting service when BA was making picks we came away with 4 starters

SM wasnt at the combine then either

You want facts
1. Army is the best branch of service
2. I am married to a woman way out of my class (she must have vision problems)
3. Allen & Snyder running the show without SM scares me
4. Notre Dame football has been on the decline
5. SM has a drinking problem

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

the thing i have maintained all along is give me fucking facts not speculation and call it gospel

we dont know

also the skins used SM's scouting service when BA was making picks we came away with 4 starters

SM wasnt at the combine then either

dam u beat me to it im on record saying far as the draft skins will be fine scott worked with the scouts what im worried about is the media is destroying us to a point where we might not be able to get the help we need

 

[Burnsie]

I agree there is disfunction

You want facts
5. SM has a drinking problem

We do know SM "had" a drinking problem. It could still be a problem or not. However he has not been in trouble with the law recently for drinking, nor gone to rehab or any other program. There is just speculation that he may be drinking again because he got in trouble years ago and several media personnel have mentioned in. There are no facts to support he still has a drinking problem.

 

[j_y19]

They can do whatever they like. I am just stating that this is not news - there was absolutely no reason for anyone to think that SM would be at Redskins Park today - yet for some reason this was on the front page of ESPN. This is like reporting "Cousins does not sign long term extension". Pretty much means nothing.

Got to disagree, SoCal. This is big news. The GM for the Washington Redskins was AWOL on the first day of FA. Sorry, that is news worthy and lends more credence to the speculation that the guy is gone. Maybe for drinking, maybe for other reasons, but I don't see him ever coming back. One thing we do know is he is not in rehab and he is not out of town for his grandmother. There is a photo of him taken yesterday afternoon in his neighborhood walking his dog. So he is around, just not at the Park, for some reason. Which leads me to believe he has been told not to come to the Park.

What is really disconcerting about the whole issue is, as in typical Redskins fashion, the timing could not have been worse. The GM and chief scout of talent becomes neutered during the most important weeks of the off season for a GM. Another self inflicted wound. I swear, sometimes if feel like the Redskins are managed by Barney Fife and his one bullet.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Got to disagree, SoCal. This is big news. The GM for the Washington Redskins was AWOL on the first day of FA. Sorry, that is news worthy and lends more credence to the speculation that the guy is gone. Maybe for drinking, maybe for other reasons, but I don't see him ever coming back. One thing we do know is he is not in rehab and he is not out of town for his grandmother. There is a photo of him taken yesterday afternoon in his neighborhood walking his dog. So he is around, just not at the Park, for some reason. Which leads me to believe he has been told not to come to the Park.

What is really disconcerting about the whole issue is, as in typical Redskins fashion, the timing could not have been worse. The GM and chief scout of talent becomes neutered during the most important weeks of the off season for a GM. Another self inflicted wound. I swear, sometimes if feel like the Redskins are managed by Barney Fife and his one bullet.

Yeah I have no idea why these guys still don't get it, this is a huge deal that SM was left home for the combine and is still not at work. How anyone can claim that there was no reason for the GM to be at Redskins Park as free agency is about to kick off is puzzling to say the least. If there is no story here then why is our GM walking his dog instead of working in his office at this time of year?

SM is clearly no longer in charge and has no role with the team anymore. Yet people here are STILL referencing the death of the grandmother story as if that ever had any merit. That is simply incredible to me.

The only thing that is speculation right now is the reason the SM era is over. If it is drinking then I can't blame the team. If Bruce won a power struggle or it was done to appease Kirk then, well, then I no longer have much interest in what the ream does this off season.

 

[Stymietee]

close ... but no cigar

I knew that...it's gallows humor,( witticism in response to a hopeless situation) my fault that it didn't come off as well as I'd hoped.

 

[Stymietee]

I agree there is disfunction


We do know SM "had" a drinking problem. It could still be a problem or not. However he has not been in trouble with the law recently for drinking, nor gone to rehab or any other program. There is just speculation that he may be drinking again because he got in trouble years ago and several media personnel have mentioned in. There are no facts to support he still has a drinking problem.

Alcoholics in the same manner as drug abusers face a lifetime in keeping sobriety. It does no hold that once a person stops the issue no longer exists, in fact, every day sober is just another in that fight to remain that way.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Got to disagree, SoCal. This is big news. The GM for the Washington Redskins was AWOL on the first day of FA. Sorry, that is news worthy and lends more credence to the speculation that the guy is gone. Maybe for drinking, maybe for other reasons, but I don't see him ever coming back. One thing we do know is he is not in rehab and he is not out of town for his grandmother. There is a photo of him taken yesterday afternoon in his neighborhood walking his dog. So he is around, just not at the Park, for some reason. Which leads me to believe he has been told not to come to the Park.

What is really disconcerting about the whole issue is, as in typical Redskins fashion, the timing could not have been worse. The GM and chief scout of talent becomes neutered during the most important weeks of the off season for a GM. Another self inflicted wound. I swear, sometimes if feel like the Redskins are managed by Barney Fife and his one bullet.

Let me clarify. I am not stating that this is not a concern. What I am stating is that this is not anything new. Absolutely nobody who is a Skins fan or has knowledge of the team expected SM to be in Redskins Park yesterday. Did you? I certainly didn't.

I know about that picture & I actually posted it elsewhere. Assuming that is him it doesn't necessarily mean that he has not been in rehab recently or isn't fighting alcohol problems rt now. He could have just recently have come out of rehab, could be in out patient treatment or could have issues that are not necessarily being addressed via rehab. There is absolutely no way to tell w/o having all of the facts.

Again - nothing earth shattering has been discovered in the last few days. We unfortunately have to let this play out (like or not) & yes we all realize that there are still issues w/ this team - not really sure what any of us can do about this short of boycotting the team which never works. Hopefully we hear some type of good news for something about this team in the next few weeks. Not necessarily holding my breath, but I am not going to go too crazy over things which under 100% not under my control. HTTR

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Yeah I have no idea why these guys still don't get it, this is a huge deal that SM was left home for the combine and is still not at work. How anyone can claim that there was no reason for the GM to be at Redskins Park as free agency is about to kick off is puzzling to say the least. If there is no story here then why is our GM walking his dog instead of working in his office at this time of year?

SM is clearly no longer in charge and has no role with the team anymore. Yet people here are STILL referencing the death of the grandmother story as if that ever had any merit. That is simply incredible to me.

The only thing that is speculation right now is the reason the SM era is over. If it is drinking then I can't blame the team. If Bruce won a power struggle or it was done to appease Kirk then, well, then I no longer have much interest in what the ream does this off season.

I am certainly not still referencing the grandmother issue. I am just saying that we don't know what is going on & have to wait a bit to find out. What are we supposed to do? Bang our heads against the wall 100 times and scream "Why us?". All of this idle speculation is getting us nowhere - if you want to do it that is your rt but I am just going to wait it out - don't really see any other alternative. If you want to get mad - get mad at the organization - not at any fans who might have a different view than yours.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

SoCal you are part of the 1%. The 1% who actually believes the GM of a professional football team not attending the combine and then not reporting to work as other teams prepare for free agency and the draft is not news. If he had missed the combine and then returned to work, well that would be news too. But for him to still be on the outs at Redskins Park is clearly bigger news. The only speculation left at this point in time is the reason he has been removed from his position as the man in charge of personnel for the team.

He was supposed to be our savior, now he is all but gone. I'm not mad at you, just completely baffled at how this can not concern you.

 

[j_y19]

I am certainly not still referencing the grandmother issue. I am just saying that we don't know what is going on & have to wait a bit to find out. What are we supposed to do? Bang our heads against the wall 100 times and scream "Why us?". All of this idle speculation is getting us nowhere - if you want to do it that is your rt but I am just going to wait it out - don't really see any other alternative. If you want to get mad - get mad at the organization - not at any fans who might have a different view than yours.

Did I expect him to return yesterday? Well, if they were truthful and he missed the combine because of his grandmother, then yes, I did. But I really didn't believe that excuse, did you? No, its clear he is out. Its also clear that the FO is playing games once again (or never really quit). Of course this is news. Dysfunction in any form is news for any organization to those that have an interest. Does this affect the team and our ability to sign FAs or structure the draft? Of course it does. What we dont know is how much. But it is news worthy.

 

[Ruzious]

Bottom line - free agency starts tomorrow, and we (meaning the skins) may have no idea what the budget is, what our QB situation is, who we want to end up with in free agency, who's working trades, who's going to run the draft, who makes decisions on our current free agents and current contracts that may be adjusted or dropped, and a host of other questions on the roster. These things are kinda important.

 

[Krusheasy]

But it is news worthy.

nothing to see here

please move along

 

[Ritzarmy]

I agree there is disfunction


We do know SM "had" a drinking problem. It could still be a problem or not. However he has not been in trouble with the law recently for drinking, nor gone to rehab or any other program. There is just speculation that he may be drinking again because he got in trouble years ago and several media personnel have mentioned in. There are no facts to support he still has a drinking problem.

Once you have a drinking problem you always have a drinking problem. It never goes away. Yes he might not be drinking but he still has a problem he is dealing with.

 

[j_y19]

nothing to see here

please move along

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Haha! That's exactly the scene that came to mind when thinking about how the Redskins have handled this situation! I'm next expecting Alexander Haig to come out and say that he is in charge. Or our version of Haig.....Bruce Allen.

 

[Virginia Gamecock]

I agree there is disfunction


We do know SM "had" a drinking problem. It could still be a problem or not. However he has not been in trouble with the law recently for drinking, nor gone to rehab or any other program. There is just speculation that he may be drinking again because he got in trouble years ago and several media personnel have mentioned in. There are no facts to support he still has a drinking problem.

Thing is, the Skins have never come out to say it isn't a drinking problem. If it wasn't, that's an easy story to refute and one they would gladly do to show that there is no dysfunction in the organization. But they haven't. And yes, it's purely speculative, which is exactly how agents for players who are FAs are seeing it. Why would they want their clients to go to a team when they have no idea what's going on or who is really in charge?

 

[j_y19]

I've said this before and I will say it again. This PR mess (at a minimum) is completely the responsibility and caused by the Redskins FO. They could have handled this very early in a completely different manner with and honest statement that basically said something like this: "SM will be taking time off to deal with a personal matter and will be returning once he has done so. The matter is personal so we will not discuss the nature (hence personal). In his absence, we have put together a working team that includes the President of Ops, the scouting debts for both Pro scouting and college scouting and the coaching staff. We are experienced at this and will have a plan to execute toward a successful FA period and draft. We hope, and expect, that SM will return to his duties in the very near future. We will not answer any questions relating to SM or his personal issues going forward. IF any thing changes with this status, we will strive to keep our fans up to speed as prudence dictates."

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I really don't care about the PR. All I know is one of the top talent evaluators in the league, our great hope, is clearly no longer in charge of our personnel and looks to be on the way out regardless of the reason. We are also in a situation where we could very well lose a good starting QB, either this year or next at the latest.

Suddenly the draft and upcoming free agency means very little to me. What's the point if Bruce Allen is making the picks and our starting QB is Colt McCoy?