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Smed55

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Bradford showed some signs of life down the stretch in 2015 after a disappointing start. He grew more comfortable behind center, which led to improved accuracy and arm strength. Bradford did a pretty good job of avoiding sacks, even if that meant taking huge hits in the pocket. He’s 28, but injuries have limited his reps, and that’s evident in his tape. Bradford is slow to react to defenses and doesn’t anticipate his receivers coming open like most passers his age do!


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Bridgewater’s 2015 stat line isn’t very impressive. He barely topped the 3,000-yard mark and threw only 14 touchdowns. But let’s give those numbers some context. He threw the fewest passes of any full-time starter in the league. Bridgewater also threw the fewest red zone passes, which is where other players pad those touchdown totals. The 23-year-old played in an offense that doesn’t suit his skill-set behind a bad offensive line and while throwing to an unpolished receiving corps.

Bridgewater throws a bad deep ball, but there aren’t many other clear weaknesses in his game. He moves around the pocket with ease, he’s one of the more accurate passers in the league on short-to-intermediate throws and he’s not easily fooled by defenses.

When watching Bridgewater on tape, you’ll find yourself wondering, “What else could he have done on that play?”

And the answer is usually, “Nothing

Lets not be stupid and compare these 2 based on Sammies 2016 compared to Teddys 2015. So this is a analysis of them going into this season, thats a more realistic comparison than the ridiculous one you keep trying to make!
 

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Coug is blind to the fact that Rodgers was bouncing and moving all over the place! Why because he was getting pressured! Ya scrambling QB's have the time, because they are making the time, because they are getting pressured, but of course the Cougster only sees what he wants to?


I'm blind?? Guess what if you hold onto the ball for 8 seconds you're going to have to scramble. Buck and Troy said the whole first have those sacks were on Rogers he had plenty of time to get rid of it. Then after the game Rodgers said himself his OL played great and he was off in the first half. He straight up said the sacks were on him. You might watch the games but that doesn't mean you know what you're watching and you proved that today.
 

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I disagree. The Packers offensive line is one of the ten best groups in the league. Rodgers didn't face too much pressure today because of his o-line. They made great adjustments especially in the second half and Rodgers carved up one of the best secondaries because of the time he had in the pocket. Of course it helps that Rodgers has the best pocket awareness in the NFL, but his line does a damn good job of protecting him weeek in and week out.


This is exactly right except they are top 5. Smed just wants to say because Rodgers is sacked a lot his OL is just as bad as the Vikes OL which is just a joke.
 

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Bradford showed some signs of life down the stretch in 2015 after a disappointing start. He grew more comfortable behind center, which led to improved accuracy and arm strength. Bradford did a pretty good job of avoiding sacks, even if that meant taking huge hits in the pocket. He’s 28, but injuries have limited his reps, and that’s evident in his tape. Bradford is slow to react to defenses and doesn’t anticipate his receivers coming open like most passers his age do!


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Bridgewater’s 2015 stat line isn’t very impressive. He barely topped the 3,000-yard mark and threw only 14 touchdowns. But let’s give those numbers some context. He threw the fewest passes of any full-time starter in the league. Bridgewater also threw the fewest red zone passes, which is where other players pad those touchdown totals. The 23-year-old played in an offense that doesn’t suit his skill-set behind a bad offensive line and while throwing to an unpolished receiving corps.

Bridgewater throws a bad deep ball, but there aren’t many other clear weaknesses in his game. He moves around the pocket with ease, he’s one of the more accurate passers in the league on short-to-intermediate throws and he’s not easily fooled by defenses.

When watching Bridgewater on tape, you’ll find yourself wondering, “What else could he have done on that play?”

And the answer is usually, “Nothing

Lets not be stupid and compare these 2 based on Sammies 2016 compared to Teddys 2015. So this is a analysis of them going into this season, thats a more realistic comparison than the ridiculous one you keep trying to make!


I believe Bradford is rated 82 right now? That must be last year.
 

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I think the Giants cover defense caused at least 2 of those sacks and Rodgers fan out of bounds twice for losses that counted as sacks.

Obviously we can agree that Bradford is a punk bitch when it comes to pressure.



Only Smed would argue the packers OL isn't that good. I mean he had at least 5 plays where he had 8 seconds back there to throw? Bradford has to get rid of the ball withen 3 seconds or he will be smashed. That's almost 3 plays for Bradford.
 

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I think the Giants cover defense caused at least 2 of those sacks and Rodgers fan out of bounds twice for losses that counted as sacks.

Obviously we can agree that Bradford is a punk bitch when it comes to pressure.



Yes they were coverage sacks. But that doesn't change the fact that he had 8-9 seconds back there? Most QB have 3 seconds.
 

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Coug, why is that ,you distort everything I say, oh thats right its just what you do!
Gbs oline is not as bad as Minnesotas, i never said it was, i just said its not as good as you say it is!
Youre the one thats always stretching the truth with your constant BS that Vikes have worst oline in,league, Sammy has been sacked more than ANY other QB, if if if BS
 

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Yes they were coverage sacks. But that doesn't change the fact that he had 8-9 seconds back there? Most QB have 3 seconds.
Wah wah wah most Qbs get at least 3 seconds, Sammy doesnt even get 1, its not fair! Other Qbs have good olines, Sammys is always the worst, its not fair, other teams have good Wr's, Sammys are always the worst, its not fair!:(
 

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7-8, enough said, deal with it Coug, you would think you would be use to it by now

7-8
 

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Coug, why is that ,you distort everything I say, oh thats right its just what you do!
Gbs oline is not as bad as Minnesotas, i never said it was, i just said its not as good as you say it is!
Youre the one thats always stretching the truth with your constant BS that Vikes have worst oline in,league, Sammy has been sacked more than ANY other QB, if if if BS


Yes GB OL is as good as I say it. They are a top 5 OL.

They clearly pass the eyeball test anybody watching the Packers on a regular basis sees this every game. PFF also backs this up also. LT 89.9. LG 73.3 C. 84.5 RG. 86.7 RT. 86. I mean that is unreaal.
 

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7-8, enough said, deal with it Coug, you would think you would be use to it by now

7-8


I am used to it. When has Sam not had a shitty online?? Last year Philly was his best by far and they were just average. Problem was the receivers lead the league in drops and the defense was ranked 28th. I won't even bring up crazy Chip Kelly crazy play calling.

Again they finished 8-8. That is a great accomplishment considering the injuries they had and worst running game in the NFL. that's probably why they already named him the starter next year and that they're keeping Pat Shurmer as the OC
 
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Yes GB OL is as good as I say it. They are a top 5 OL.

They clearly pass the eyeball test anybody watching the Packers on a regular basis sees this every game. PFF also backs this up also. LT 89.9. LG 73.3 C. 84.5 RG. 86.7 RT. 86. I mean that is unreaal.


I never said Sam was sacked the most this year so stop making crap up.
 

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I am used to it. When has Sam not had a shitty online?? Last year Philly was his best by far and they were just average. Problem was the receivers lead the league in drops and the defense was ranked 28th. I won't even bring up crazy Chip Kelly crazy play calling.

Again they finished 8-8. That is a great accomplishment considering the injuries they had and worst running game in the NFL. that's probably why they already named him the starter next year and that they're keeping Pat Shurmer as the OC

^^^Now that's some serious ASS Kissin right there! ^^^^ :kissass:
 

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Yes GB OL is as good as I say it. They are a top 5 OL.

They clearly pass the eyeball test anybody watching the Packers on a regular basis sees this every game. PFF also backs this up also. LT 89.9. LG 73.3 C. 84.5 RG. 86.7 RT. 86. I mean that is unreaal.


Coug says "i don't refer to PFF as much anymore" well theres ONE lie!
GBs oline is "as good as "you" say it is" I will admit their run blocking is good, their pass blocking nothing more than average, so overall, they have above average oline?

Again you are easily impressed by what some site says, "I mean that is unreal" really Coug its unreal, yes they are the Sammy of olines, they are unreal, amazing, dreamy and all the other lame words you want to anoint Sammy with?!
ONCE AGAIN, I COULD GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOUR ALMIGHTY PFF SAYS! doesn't take in lots of factors?

Now than where do the Packers fall in giving up sacks, in the middle of the pack
Where does this oline fall n QB Hits_ 11th, that means there are 10 teams that have given up less, see how that works? But ya youre right Coug they have a top 5 oline!
Rodgers ran for more yards this year than he has ever before, now some of this is designed runs, most of it is scrambling. He also scrambles in the pocket if not better than anyone else, hes at least among the best. you may not be familiar with the concept that a scrambling QB avoids a lot of sacks and that makes your line look better
 

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I am used to it. When has Sam not had a shitty online?? Last year Philly was his best by far and they were just average. Problem was the receivers lead the league in drops and the defense was ranked 28th. I won't even bring up crazy Chip Kelly crazy play calling.

Again they finished 8-8. That is a great accomplishment considering the injuries they had and worst running game in the NFL. that's probably why they already named him the starter next year and that they're keeping Pat Shurmer as the OC
You are right they finished 8-8, Sammy finished 7-8

And then Coug says "I wont even bring up crazy Chip Keely crazy play calling" YOU JUST DID YOU MAROON!

This will make it easier for you Coug, I feel bad that you have to continually type this out because you have 100's of times and we are tired of the REGURGITATION, Just feel free to copy and paste this part in ALL OF YOUR POSTS

Sammy had amazing year, considering he didn't have a oline, bad receivers, no running game, injuries.
 

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I never said Sam was sacked the most this year so stop making crap up.
:Lusing your favorite word, you are "amazing" in your failure to either read or comprehend what you read, this is a constant problem with you in your attempts to distort what was said!

I never said that you said that? You said it all through the year that Sammie was the most sacked QB over the "years" Ive told you that for years that was untrue, Yet a couple weeks a go I believe it was Retro, Shops, LTR, and myself put the stats (the facts) up that he is no where near the most sacked QB. Instead of you admitting you were wrong, like you never do, you just avoided it and went with the he has the worst oline in the league and always has BULLSHIT angle, and now throw that down our throats instead!
 

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I believe Bradford is rated 82 right now? That must be last year.

and here is YET AGAIN another example of poor reading or comprehension skills !

It says right in the post it was going into this year:doh:

the point is comparing Teddy and Sammy before going into this year and Teddy was and is better! As Ive said your pathetic attempt at comparing Teddys Vike stats from last year to Sammys Vike stats this year is unrealistic? We will never know how Teddy would have done this year, why? BECAUSE IT DIDNT HAPPEN.

And even if you want to add Sammys stats this year, (his best year ever, Oh boy) he would still fall in the LOWER half of current QB;s which would be below the average, again. well done Sammy:clap:
 

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^^^Now that's some serious ASS Kissin right there! ^^^^ :kissass:

Its obviously what he does best, I do feel bad for Sammy if Coug ever meet him in person , I'm sure Sammy would be quite embarrassed by what Coug would say, or GOD forbid do???
 

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Here are some stats from Football outsider which takes some results from your precious PFF, they have the Vikes as having the #30 ranked oline, 31st run blocking, 17th pass blocking , things that make you go Hmm, Cleveland led the league with 66 sacks given up, also led the league in most hits given up 140, both numbers no where close to any one else, but ya the VIKES have the worst oline GTFO:stfu:

RUN BLOCKING PASS PROTECTION
Team
Adj. Line
Yards
RB
Yards
Power
Success
Power
Rank
Stuffed Stuffed
Rank
2nd Level
Yards
2nd Level
Rank
Open Field
Yards
Open Field
Rank
Team Rank Sacks Adjusted
Sack Rate

1 NO 4.59 4.53 70% 9 14% 2 1.11 19 0.85 10 OAK 1 18 3.4%
2 PIT 4.35 4.47 71% 7 15% 4 1.40 4 0.52 25 NYG 2 22 3.9%
3 IND 4.33 3.81 63% 15 13% 1 1.01 28 0.26 32 WAS 3 23 3.9%
4 TEN 4.33 4.42 68% 12 19% 13 1.28 9 0.72 13 PIT 4 21 4.1%
5 DAL 4.30 4.68 73% 3 15% 5 1.36 5 0.98 8 NO 5 27 4.5%
6 WAS 4.25 4.67 72% 5 15% 3 1.15 14 1.06 6 NE 6 24 4.7%
7 ARI 4.22 4.27 72% 5 21% 19 1.23 12 0.82 11 CHI 7 28 4.9%
8 CHI 4.17 4.69 75% 1 18% 11 1.27 10 1.06 5 BAL 8 32 5.2%
9 NE 4.15 4.00 59% 22 20% 16 1.10 21 0.60 21 JAC 9 34 5.3%
10 ATL 4.09 4.66 61% 17 22% 23 1.30 7 1.20 3 PHI 10 33 5.4%
11 OAK 4.09 4.66 59% 23 17% 8 1.28 8 1.00 7 GB 11 35 5.5%
12 NYJ 4.00 4.25 74% 2 16% 7 1.24 11 0.66 17 HOU 12 32 5.5%
13 PHI 3.98 4.28 57% 25 18% 12 1.36 6 0.67 16 DAL 13 28 5.6%
14 CIN 3.91 3.91 60% 19 20% 15 1.04 26 0.55 23 KC 14 32 5.7%
15 HOU 3.87 4.14 61% 18 16% 6 1.14 16 0.61 20 TB 15 35 5.9%
16 BUF 3.87 5.12 60% 20 22% 22 1.41 1 1.33 2 TEN 16 29 5.9%
RUN BLOCKING PASS PROTECTION
Team
Adj. Line
Yards
RB
Yards
Power
Success
Power
Rank
Stuffed Stuffed
Rank
2nd Level
Yards
2nd Level
Rank
Open Field
Yards
Open Field
Rank
Team Rank Sacks Adjusted
Sack Rate

17 KC 3.82 3.91 59% 21 18% 10 1.04 27 0.57 22 MIN 17 38 6.0%
18 DEN 3.80 3.78 51% 29 21% 20 1.19 13 0.50 26 DET 18 37 6.1%
19 GB 3.79 4.36 49% 30 20% 17 1.15 15 0.94 9 CAR 19 36 6.2%
20 BAL 3.79 4.02 70% 9 20% 14 1.11 20 0.66 18 NYJ 20 35 6.2%
21 TB 3.74 3.61 47% 32 24% 32 1.06 24 0.45 28 ARI 21 41 6.3%
22 MIA 3.70 4.59 52% 28 24% 31 1.40 3 1.13 4 MIA 22 30 6.3%
23 SD 3.68 3.90 66% 13 21% 21 1.00 30 0.76 12 ATL 23 37 6.5%
24 NYG 3.61 3.70 63% 14 17% 9 1.01 29 0.40 29 SD 24 36 6.6%
25 CAR 3.57 3.90 73% 3 22% 24 1.10 23 0.63 19 SEA 25 42 6.9%
26 SEA 3.50 3.82 53% 27 23% 30 1.12 18 0.70 15 CIN 26 41 7.3%
27 JAC 3.47 3.80 58% 24 20% 18 1.06 25 0.55 24 DEN 27 40 7.4%
28 CLE 3.46 4.82 71% 7 22% 27 1.40 2 1.36 1 IND 28 44 7.6%
29 LARM 3.40 3.24 61% 16 22% 28 0.89 31 0.30 30 LARM 29 49 8.1%
30 MIN 3.37 3.15 47% 31 22% 26 0.84 32 0.29 31 SF 30 47 8.4%
31 DET 3.25 3.64 56% 26 23% 29 1.10 22 0.47 27 BUF 31 46 9.3%
32 SF 3.22 3.99 69% 11 22% 25 1.12 17 0.72 14 CLE 32 66 10.6%
x NFL x 4.16 63% x 19% x 1.04 x 0.65 x NFL







 

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Matt Ryan was the 2nd-most accurate QB on deep passes this season (throws traveling 20+ yards downfield)—behind only Sam Bradford. :noidea:

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