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Game Thread: Turkey Day Bears at Lions

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First off, how have you been man? Didn't realize that it was you at first. Good to see you're still around.

Second, I agree that the HC runs the team but clock awareness is something every QB my be aware of. Rookie QB's make rookie mistakes.

Third, Love would not have made that mistake :suds:
Oh ya? well fuck YOOOOUUUU
 

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Not fired yet, huh? Gay.


Caleb is awesome guys. Seriously...we are ok at QB. Anyone thinking otherwise is just jaded from years of bullshit. This kid is good. Our coach is fucking retarded. Period. Full stop.

Anyone blaming this shit on Caleb is fucking retarded. I couldn't give any fucks less about Caleb fucking up the time management when my qunt fucking coach is there watching it with a fucking timeout in his pocket, for the second time to in 3 weeks. GTFOH.

Think back to last year, WITH A DIFFERENT, INFERIOR QB. We had like 4 games where we had multiple score leads with like 6 fucking minutes in the 4th, and LOST.

We are in Trestman territory, and despite recency bias, I think there is legitimate case to be made, that Flus is worse. The way this guy has lost is generational. This season has been like nothing I've ever seen. If you add in last year's crazy collapses, I mean...wtf, this shit in unparalleled!?
 

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And yet a veteran qg for how many years even says how open DJ is,but yet you tell us its a wrong route....

Please man,stop trying to sound smart,cause Romo knows mooooore than you will ever know.
I am not trying to defend Williams in any way, but we cannot continue to believe these coaches are so inept that they keep allowing two receivers in the same place on the field. That is why I can support some of the wrong route questioning. Watch those pass interference calls against Kmet and see that all a beat defender needs to do is run into the pick to get the flag. It might as well be a lebron james flop.

What I will put on this quarterback is the lack of urgency. EVEN after that pass play, he was calling the players into a huddle, could have snapped the ball with 15 seconds. From the first play of the drive it takes 30 seconds to run a play. You let the clock run down to the two minute warning, I am sorry, but you have to have 2 or 3 plays called.

We had Brady talking about the wasted time, now Romo talking about wasting time. They also are both talking about having multiple receivers in the same spot. As far as the Fluke goes, if the play is not run with the 15 seconds left, you needed to burn that time out and give the kid a WTF moment.

They had Detroit on the ropes. 9 starters out of the game by games end and you let them slip away with no sense of urgency.
 

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They had Detroit on the ropes. 9 starters out of the game by games end and you let them slip away with no sense of urgency.
There was an amazing lack of urgency in those waning seconds. I don't think Caleb was aware of the time clock after that last sack. It was up to Flus at that point, or even prior to the play, to take command of the clock.
 

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There was an amazing lack of urgency in those waning seconds. I don't think Caleb was aware of the time clock after that last sack. It was up to Flus at that point, or even prior to the play, to take command of the clock.
they only had 1 time out left, all Williams had to do was snap the ball. The lack of urgency was the entire series. All they had to do was get half of those yards back, it seemed like Williams had gwtd on his mind, only problem was no receivers got to the end zone.
 

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This has gone on for too long now.....WE ARE A PLAYOFF TEAM AS WE STAND......
There's no doubt the talent is there. We're currently cursed with having arguably the three best teams in the NFC playing in our division. Philly might make an argument for being one of those top three, but that's about it. Yet in all three contests against these clubs, our boyz were in it till the very end. When this team is focused, when it's thoroughly prepared, it can play with the best of them. Then again, when we get our asses handed to us by teams like the Cardinals and especially the Patriots, it's obvious our coaches game planning needs some serious retooling.
 

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they only had 1 time out left, all Williams had to do was snap the ball. The lack of urgency was the entire series. All they had to do was get half of those yards back, it seemed like Williams had gwtd on his mind, only problem was no receivers got to the end zone.
Not arguing there, in fact it reinforces the point that Flus should have taken command, perhaps even prior to that last sack. What good does a timeout do when there's no time left.
 

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There's no doubt the talent is there. We're currently cursed with having arguably the three best teams in the NFC playing in our division. Philly might make an argument for being one of those top three, but that's about it. Yet in all three contests against these clubs, our boyz were in it till the very end. When this team is focused, when it's thoroughly prepared, it can play with the best of them. Then again, when we get our asses handed to us by teams like the Cardinals and especially the Patriots, it's obvious our coaches game planning needs some serious retooling.

Those losses were with Waldron as oc,Brown has our offense playing better.......it very well ccould be different scenario given the changes.

But damn,these last two games vs legit playoff teams and we took them down to thhe wire,Detroit and GB has gotta be thankful our coach is,I just dont even know what to call him other than shit.....
 

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I am actually the most encouraged by the Bears that I have been, maybe ever. Simply due to how our QB looks and his growth as a passer/runner recently (he still takes way too many sacks).

This sucks, but big picture wise? The last few weeks have been really good. I know... I know... eye roll inducing. But seriously... we have QB.
Gotta figure out why you guys start games so dead in the water. The comebacks are amazing and Caleb is making a ton of progress but the slow starts gotta be addressed.
 

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No seriously….is reading that hard or is it fun to be obtuse?
Yeah you did. I was having three conversations at the time. One was with my friend who was saying it was 100 percent on the coach. I inexplicably combined his reactions with yours. Sorry bro. And I agree with you that it is almost entirely on eberflus and any rookie QB being thrown into that situation because of inept coaching is probably gonna have similar results.
 

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Let me add.....I am not looking forward to playing you guys again. As tough of an out as any team in the NFL. I'll just be praying for another dead fleas falling off you start. If you guys can play a complete game it's gonna be almost impossible to beat y'all.
 

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Let me add.....I am not looking forward to playing you guys again. As tough of an out as any team in the NFL. I'll just be praying for another dead fleas falling off you start. If you guys can play a complete game it's gonna be almost impossible to beat y'all.

I will be at the Monday night game.

There are a multitude of reasons you will probably lose. The only thing that keeps the Bears in games is the fact there is actually a lot of talent on the roster.

If they could learn to start games properly, another coaching problem, then they could probably win a few of these.
 

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Not fired yet, huh? Gay.


Caleb is awesome guys. Seriously...we are ok at QB. Anyone thinking otherwise is just jaded from years of bullshit. This kid is good. Our coach is fucking retarded. Period. Full stop.

Anyone blaming this shit on Caleb is fucking retarded. I couldn't give any fucks less about Caleb fucking up the time management when my qunt fucking coach is there watching it with a fucking timeout in his pocket, for the second time to in 3 weeks. GTFOH.

Think back to last year, WITH A DIFFERENT, INFERIOR QB. We had like 4 games where we had multiple score leads with like 6 fucking minutes in the 4th, and LOST.

We are in Trestman territory, and despite recency bias, I think there is legitimate case to be made, that Flus is worse. The way this guy has lost is generational. This season has been like nothing I've ever seen. If you add in last year's crazy collapses, I mean...wtf, this shit in unparalleled!?
I’ve moved on. This years team is going nowhere. I look at the bright side. That final drive was a learning opportunity for Caleb and he is going to be better off for it. This season has provided a lot of those for him.

You also have to imagine, with Eberflus at the helm, we have a shot at the number 1 pick again.

I also think we have a very bright future ahead after this season.
 

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I am not trying to defend Williams in any way, but we cannot continue to believe these coaches are so inept that they keep allowing two receivers in the same place on the field. That is why I can support some of the wrong route questioning.

This has been happening all fucking season.

Either it’s a playbook problem with the route trees or receivers are making the wrong decisions.

I have seen receivers with outside leverage cut in, receiving a with inside level cut out or stay pat.

We CONSTANTLY see two receivers ending up in the same location.

Yes Williams has thrown some erratically inaccurate footballs. That’s clear. But the route running of these receivers has not been great this season. I absolutely love DJ Moore. He’s a little beast. But he seems to want to do his own thing and wants Caleb to conform to him instead of doing little things to help his QB….like coming back to the football and squaring himself up to make an easier target. Late in the game yesterday he seemed to make more route adjustments and he started bailing Caleb out finally…only to have Caleb badly miss him on the crossing route. The length of time these guys spend on opposite pages is frustrating.
 

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I’ve moved on. This years team is going nowhere. I look at the bright side. That final drive was a learning opportunity for Caleb and he is going to be better off for it. This season has provided a lot of those for him.

You also have to imagine, with Eberflus at the helm, we have a shot at the number 1 pick again.

I also think we have a very bright future ahead after this season.
This is pretty much my take as well, especially the bolded part. The Bears are team that's more talented than its record, even tho it deserves the record it currently has. They have no one to blame but themselves (and the coaching in particular).

But like BGF here, I also feel we have the foundation for a winning team in the coming seasons. There remains a lot of talent on this roster. Definitely more is needed, no arguing that, but the core is decent and I like our QB's future. One immediate fix is changing coaches, at least the head coach.
 

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This is pretty much my take as well, especially the bolded part. The Bears are team that's more talented than its record, even tho it deserves the record it currently has. They have no one to blame but themselves (and the coaching in particular).

But like BGF here, I also feel we have the foundation for a winning team in the coming seasons. There remains a lot of talent on this roster. Definitely more is needed, no arguing that, but the core is decent and I like our QB's future. One immediate fix is changing coaches, at least the head coach.
The worse we are this season, the better the opportunity we have of drafting quality starters at G, C, and DE. It’s looking like we will have some cap space, although most of our talented players are on rookie contracts. We might be able to swing a deal for a top FA at G or DE. I think it’s reasonable to expect a competent organization to fill those three holes in one offseason.

Add to the equation a new head coach and another losing season might not be the worst thing for this organization. In fact, I think this team catching fire at the end of the year might only convince the FO that some on the coaching staff are retainable.
 

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Gotta figure out why you guys start games so dead in the water. The comebacks are amazing and Caleb is making a ton of progress but the slow starts gotta be addressed.
I've seen some REAL bad Bears teams, but I've never seen a worse first quarter team than this. Which is pretty amazing, because they're not bad.
 
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