Trading Lincecum?

[SFGRTB]

Now, this is not for or against any trade for Timmeh, just pure speculation.

This article sparked my interest. How much do you think we could get for the dude and would it be worth it? What teams would be in on it? Is there really anything we could get in return of equal value?

Can the Giants Improve by Trading Tim Lincecum? | FanGraphs Baseball

 

[bone3421]

i just asked this in the boras thread, except for cain.....still got timmy,madison,vogelsong and sanchez and the rangers got some bats and a great farm system you can work from

 

[bone3421]

trading cain frees up 15 mil

 

[SFGRTB]

Would you be for trading for a few ML-ready prospects or an established star (Hanley Ramirez, Cano[i wish], Ellsbury?)

 

[SFGRTB]

i just asked this in the boras thread, except for cain.....still got timmy,madison,vogelsong and sanchez and the rangers got some bats and a great farm system you can work from

Honestly, Cain is more valuable to this team IMO. Consistently consistent.

 

[bone3421]

i would guess the rangers would offer a combo of murphy/moreland/gentry/martin / and some prospects

 

[bone3421]

hell maybe even micheal young and others

 

[SFGRTB]

hell maybe even micheal young and others

I would not want any part of Young.

 

[bone3421]

hey he just hit like .338 and you need offense......it would be young and other players

 

[tzill]

I'd trade Cain for Kinsler, Perez, and Martin.

 

[Heathbar012]

I'd trade Cain for Kinsler, Perez, and Martin.

I'd trade Timmy for that package, plus Andrus.

 

[tzill]

I'd trade Timmy for that package, plus Andrus.

I want to revise my ask for Cain:

Kinsler, Profar, and Perez.

 

[Heathbar012]

I want to revise my ask for Cain:

Kinsler, Profar, and Perez.

More MLB-ready, bigger upside or both?

 

[fordman84]

I want to revise my ask for Cain:

Kinsler, Profar, and Perez.

That is just stupid. Granted you could ask for it and it would be a legit ask for someone of Cain or Linc's ability, but Texas in no way would trade their MLB 2B AND his replacement. A top tier MLB 2B and the #1 and #2 of one of the top minor systems?

You can always ask, but that wouldn't happen. Martin/Kins/Perez maybe. Then Tex could either put Jurickson at 2B or move Elvis over, Martin is a stud but we have a good OF already, and Perez would be replaced by whomever we got in Cain or Linc. Gotta give good to get good. Just Kins and Profar is not doable.

 

[fordman84]

More MLB-ready, bigger upside or both?

Profar is two years from MLB ready. He is only like 18 or 19 I think. He just has a crap ton of upside.

 

[Heathbar012]

Profar is two years from MLB ready. He is only like 18 or 19 I think. He just has a crap ton of upside.

Thanks for the info. Rep. After I posted that, I read an article saying Profar might be the best SS prospect in baseball. Obviously, internet conjecture is always taken with a grain of salt, but do you think Elvis or Kinsler will be trade bait at 2013's deadline?

 

[calsnowskier]

That is just stupid. Granted you could ask for it and it would be a legit ask for someone of Cain or Linc's ability, but Texas in no way would trade their MLB 2B AND his replacement. A top tier MLB 2B and the #1 and #2 of one of the top minor systems?

You can always ask, but that wouldn't happen. Martin/Kins/Perez maybe. Then Tex could either put Jurickson at 2B or move Elvis over, Martin is a stud but we have a good OF already, and Perez would be replaced by whomever we got in Cain or Linc. Gotta give good to get good. Just Kins and Profar is not doable.

You have to remember the source of these offers is a guy saying he wanted to trade for Cain, but took all the prizes in the Tex org off the table. Then offered an aging, over-paid DH as the center-piece of the deal.

Of course you will get jack-ass offers in return...

 

[calsnowskier]

Think of it this way...

The Giants want to get Andruzs and Feliz from you, but Linc, Cain, Bum, Posey, Belt, Sandoval, Brown, Panic and Hembree are all off the table.

Make us an offer...

You guys need pitching, so lets center it around Zito.

 

[fordman84]

You have to remember the source of these offers is a guy saying he wanted to trade for Cain, but took all the prizes in the Tex org off the table. Then offered an aging, over-paid DH as the center-piece of the deal.

Of course you will get jack-ass offers in return...

OH yeah I know, that is why I added the give good to get good. I know that you can't trade crap for Cain.

My only point is that Texas wouldn't trade the current allstar caliber guy as well as his replacement. That would create a major hole that a pitcher can't fill. No use creating two holes only to backfill one.

 

[fordman84]

Thanks for the info. Rep. After I posted that, I read an article saying Profar might be the best SS prospect in baseball. Obviously, internet conjecture is always taken with a grain of salt, but do you think Elvis or Kinsler will be trade bait at 2013's deadline?

That has been discussed, trying to figure out who gets moved to make room. I don't think anyone on the Rangers boards have come up with a good solution. I'm pretty sure that Elvis will continue to bulk up and become a better hitter. He is still stupid young as well. Some have said that Ian will be moved to a new position or traded, and Elvis or Profar will be moved to 2B. Not really sure.


It is a great problem to have, but Profar has to keep getting better. Three years ago we had a ton of prospect catchers that everyone wanted. Salty and Teagarden were both top prospects and both turned out to suck. Then we had a logjam at 1B with Smoak and Davis. Turns out Smoak was traded (and doesn't look to be anything special) and Davis was a K machine and was traded as well. So...two years from now Profar may be a dud and we need Ian and Elvis. So goes the joys of prospects