Trade Capital from Miami

[deanpet21]

Assuming the Dolphins trade up to #2 what will it cost the Dolphins? Well if we use the RG3 trade when we were at #6 and moved to #2 we gave up the swap plus 2 first round picks and a 2nd. So now in 2020 for the Dolphins to move up they would have to do the swap and give us #18, #26, and a 2nd rounder. Will Miami give this up?

Now when the Eagles move up from #8 to #2 to get Wentz they gave up the swap, a first the following year, a 2nd two years from the trade, a 3rd and 4th the same year as the trade. But the eagles got back a 4th the next year. Eagles made out like Bandits for moving up 6 slots for a QB. So now in 2020 if the Dolphins use this model. The Dolphins would only give up a 1st next year, a 3rd and 4th this year and a 2nd two years from now but we get back a 4th in 2021. That's crazy if we accept this.

What do you guys think is fair trade compensation if the Dolphins move up to #2? If the Dolphins offer what we gave the Rams for Rg3 do we have to take it? What if they offer #5,18,26 and a 2nd in 2021?

Thoughts?

 

[countryroads316]

not worth it unless they give up multiple high picks we would lose out on Young and most likely Simmons and I'm not very high on Okudah

 

[Stymietee]

not worth it unless they give up multiple high picks we would lose out on Young and most likely Simmons and I'm not very high on Okudah

^^^^^^^^I agree with this^^^^^^

 

[gkekoa]

5, 18, and a first next season

or

5, 26, a first and second next season.

 

[Stymietee]

Now after agreeing with @countryroads316 here's what those multiple high picks should be.

Can't count 5 because it's not compensation, just a switch of spots. The compensation must be 18 an 26 plus their 2nd this year and a player. Next year would have to include their 1st and 2nd picks as well.

Miami won't agree to this deal and hopefully, folks fantasizing about trading down to get some sort of historic haul comes to an end.

 

[Stymietee]

5, 18, and a first next season

or

5, 26, a first and second next season.

Can't count 5 as it's just a swap of spots, not compensation.

 

[deanpet21]

Now after agreeing with @countryroads316 here's what those multiple high picks should be.

Can't count 5 because it's not compensation, just a switch of spots. The compensation must be 18 an 26 plus their 2nd this year and a player. Next year would have to include their 1st and 2nd picks as well.

Miami won't agree to this deal and hopefully, folks fantasizing about trading down to get some sort of historic haul comes to an end.

The swap and 15, 26, and a 2nd rounder next season would equal the RG3 trade. So we cant get more than that.

 

[Stymietee]

The swap and 15, 26, and a 2nd rounder next season would equal the RG3 trade. So we cant get more than that.

Why not, RGIII's deal happened in 2012, and became the blockbuster that it was referred to because it set precedent. It's 2020, and new standards will be set. If they don't want to meet our asking price, fuk 'em!!

 

[deanpet21]

Why not, RGIII's deal happened in 2012, and became the blockbuster that it was referred to because it set precedent. It's 2020, and new standards will be set. If they don't want to meet our asking price, fuk 'em!!

b/c the Eagles got Wentz for a lot less and were later in the draft. Bottom line is the swap 2 1sts and a 2nd rounder. It has to be three extra picks. Two of those three first rounders.

 

[deanpet21]

5, 18, and a first next season

or

5, 26, a first and second next season.

no to the first one. We have to get three extra picks. With two of those picks being in the first round.

 

[Stymietee]

The swap and 15, 26, and a 2nd rounder next season would equal the RG3 trade. So we cant get more than that.

Why not, RGIII's deal happened in 2012, and became the blockbuster that it was referred to because it set precedent. It's 2020 and unless you're telling me that new standards cannot be set, Miami either accepts our demands or they don't.

 

[deanpet21]

Why not, RGIII's deal happened in 2012, and became the blockbuster that it was referred to because it set precedent. It's 2020 and unless you're telling me that new standards cannot be set, Miami either accepts our demands or they don't.

lol. I just answered this with the Wentz trade. No way us or any team will get more than what we gave up for RG3. Simply wont happen in todays NFL. Just my opinion. Would you turn down 5,18,26 and Miami 2nd round pick this year?

 

[Stymietee]

lol. I just answered this with the Wentz trade. No way us or any team will get more than what we gave up for RG3. Simply wont happen in todays NFL. Just my opinion. Would you turn down 5,18,26 and Miami 2nd round pick this year?

Yes I wouldn't hesitate to turn it down. In fact I would be insulted that they included pick 5 as compensation. It's akin to people insisting that Washington gave up 3 first round picks to move up in 2012, when reality shows only 2. We have a,selection in the first round, as does Miami, swapping positions leaves both with picks in that round, compensation to move down follows that agreement.

BTW: the Griffin/Wentz deals have little bearing on a deal done today. They set a standard, one different than the other. A new standard will be set at some point, why not in this draft?

 

[deanpet21]

Yes I wouldn't hesitate to turn it down. In fact I would be insulted that they included pick 5 as compensation. It's akin to people insisting that Washington gave up 3 first round picks to move up in 2012, when reality shows only 2. We have a,selection in the first round, as does Miami, swapping positions leaves both with picks in that round, compensation to move down follows that agreement.

BTW: the Griffin/Wentz deals have little bearing on a deal done today. They set a standard, one different than the other. A new standard will be set at some point, why not in this draft?

No way Miami gives us 4 extra picks to move up 2 slots. I can see three but not 4.

 

[Stymietee]

No way Miami gives us 4 extra picks to move up 2 slots. I can see three but not 4.

Ok, they don't accept my request for 4, I'm not hurt about that, in fact, it makes it easier to stay put at 2 and reconsider my options. Trading Kerrigan seems not to be in their plans, however, the question you presented at the beginning was..."What do you guys think is fair trade compensation if the Dolphins move up to #2?"

So, now you have my thoughts on "fair trade compensation," I threw in the Kerrigan move for a friend.

 

[skinsdad62]

Here is where sty is absolutely right . We have the number 2 pick with the next LT on the table . So hell yes I am asking for my damn price ( and it’s 2 1sts , 2 2nds, a 3rd 4th and 5th and a 6th) or you can sit at whatever position you are at and hope Tua drops in your lap .

if we don’t get what we want “ horrors “ we are stuck with the generational game changer

whatever will I do ​

 

[gkekoa]

Ok, they don't accept my request for 4, I'm not hurt about that, in fact, it makes it easier to stay put at 2 and reconsider my options. Trading Kerrigan seems not to be in their plans, however, the question you presented at the beginning was..."What do you guys think is fair trade compensation if the Dolphins move up to #2?"

So, now you have my thoughts on "fair trade compensation," I threw in the Kerrigan move for a friend.

Sadly, I believe we haven’t tried to trade RK because he is our plan at DE with a trade down.

 

[countryroads316]

Sadly, I believe we haven’t tried to trade RK because he is our plan at DE with a trade down.

disagree his best years are behind him

 

[gkekoa]

disagree his best years are behind him

When did I say his best days weren’t behind him?

You may disagree with my belief that the organization will keep RK as a DE, but I don’t know why you believe that when the organization has made no effort to trade him.

 

[countryroads316]

When did I say his best days weren’t behind him?

You may disagree with my belief that the organization will keep RK as a DE, but I don’t know why you believe that when the organization has made no effort to trade him.

I don't see the plan of moving with RK and trading down as the plan its either Chase Young or a massive trade haul no exceptions