Top Three Most Poorly Operated NBA Franchises

[CitySushi]

The Bulls have consistently made poor moves over the last few years that have run talent out of the city. On top of that they've made horrible front office decisions, including their coaching options, free agency and really have nothing to show for it. Their last two big free agent splashes were signing a past prime D-Wade at a huge contract then waiving him. They signed Jabari Parker for a 2 year 40M deal and they end up benching him. They fired their coach and replaced him with another coach who immediately had a mutiny on his hands. They had one teammate literally punch another teammate in the face giving him a concussion and fractures in his face. I mean every thing you could think of going wrong with a franchise has happened within the last few years.

The reason the Bulls are higher on my list is that the front office doesn't seen to be in jeopardy despite how bad they've been. At least the T-Wolves rectified the problem with Thibbs. He was the real reason for every problem they had. They gave him the personnel control on the team as well as being coach (which almost never works out). He's responsible for every move you'd probably have as a gripe against them, whereas the Bulls front office has multiple issues on every front.

I'm not saying the gap between them is huge or disproportionate but I believe the Bulls have as solid a case as anyone being in that top 3.

Edit: deleted my thoughts on the Covington/Saric issue as it's not pertaining to my assessment of the Bulls franchise. There's another thread for that.

Edit 2: Also another thought on the Bulls. After the players were threatening to boycott practice because they hated the coach and even took up issue with the Players Union, what do the Bulls do in response? They gave Boylan a damn extension!

@HurricaneDij39 any thoughts on this?

 

[HurricaneDij39]

@HurricaneDij39 any thoughts on this?

The difference is that last year was Minnesota's first playoff appearance since 2004. The Bulls have actually had some moderate success earlier in the decade, the problem is their front office is too old school.

 

[The Q]

The difference is that last year was Minnesota's first playoff appearance since 2004. The Bulls have actually had some moderate success earlier in the decade, the problem is their front office is too old school.

i have a hard time giving them much credit when they needed that bs fluke lottery win for Rose.

 

[CitySushi]

The difference is that last year was Minnesota's first playoff appearance since 2004. The Bulls have actually had some moderate success earlier in the decade, the problem is their front office is too old school.

I guess ultimately parameters need to be set in order to realistically judge the worst front offices. I'm just going off recency I suppose.

 

[tlance]

1. New
2. York
3. Knicks

Yeah.

I think I have to change my vote after today's trade. Absolutely mind boggling.

 

[wazzu31]

I’d say OKC. They were gifted a dynasty and have yet to win a title. 2nd class organization for a second class city.

 

[msgkings322]

I’d say OKC. They were gifted a dynasty and have yet to win a title. 2nd class organization for a second class city.

Gee I wonder where this poster is from....(looks left)....oh right, of course.

 

[wazzu31]

Gee I wonder where this poster is from....(looks left)....oh right, of course.

Seattle hasn’t had a franchise in over a decade and has won as many titles as the Dust Bowlers. We gifted them a dynasty but they couldn’t keep it together because of shitty management.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Here are mine:

• Suns - To me, they are #1 by far. Even when they were contending during the Steve Nash era, owner Robert Sarver had cut corners at all costs, likely costing them a championship. Now with that core long gone, they haven't made the playoffs since 2010 and haven't really had a competent GM in that time frame. This is a team famous for stocking up players at similar positions at similar skill sets that don't really fit with one another. Booker and Ayton figure to be their franchise cornerstones going forward, but can anyone play defense?
• Wizards - Is there any NBA GM more famous for his complacency than Ernie Grunfeld? If so, I'm all ears. And on top of that, Grunfeld as held his position since 2003.
• Timberwolves - Three years ago, they were lucky enough to be saddled with the best collection of young talent in the NBA. So what do they do with this talent? Hire an old retread coach to help them reach their first playoff appearance since 2004, but it comes at a cost. That said coach brought over one of his problem children from his Chicago days, and now both are gone amid bad locker room tension, and as a result the team is now stuck in the middle of a deep western conference, arguably the worst spot to be in the current NBA. On top of all this, they paid Andrew Wiggins based on his draft status rather than his on-court production and effectiveness. Overall, this franchise paid a hefty cost to snap their playoff drought and time will tell if they ever recover, but the smart money says "no".

Not far behind:

• Knicks - For all the talk on this board that market matters, you would think this team would have won something worth a damn in recent years. As it stands, they have one playoff series win since 2001. One.
• Bulls - This is a team that badly needs some young blood in their front office. They came to the conclusion that Fred Hoiberg was not their long-term coach after a 5-19 start amid injuries, and elected not to waste his time and sent him packing. Unfortunately, the guy they chose to replace him is not better in any way, and to make matters worse, they've already guaranteed his contract for next season. You're not a good basketball team right now, so why the fuck would you commit to one guy already? Talk about a bargain-basement hire, and a sign that ownership is satisfied with the team's current trend.
• Pistons - There is some talent here, making their overall record look respectable. Like the Bulls, they fired their coach (Stan Van Gundy) without any real plan in place. Just another example of ownership being satisfied with complacency.
• Magic - Haven't made the playoffs since the ugly Dwight Howard fallout, and have managed to let the young talent they have developed in the time since get away, such as Oladipo and Tobias Harris. This is an organization still struggling to find an identity.
• Kings - De'Aaron Fox may be their saving grace.

The bulls are finally doing what they should’ve done when they kicked thibs out of town. They are tanking for a draft pick. They will tank for a draft pick next year too. Hopefully they can get Zion Williamson.

 

[msgkings322]

The bulls are finally doing what they should’ve done when they kicked thibs out of town. They are tanking for a draft pick. They will tank for a draft pick next year too. Hopefully they can get Zion Williamson.

Everybody's Dyin' For Zion!

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Everybody's Dyin' For Zion!

The Bulls have a legit shot at him. Even if they don’t get him, I think this draft class will have a bunch of good players in it.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Bulls have a legit shot at him. Even if they don’t get him, I think this draft class will have a bunch of good players in it.

right now it looks like its prob. a 5-6 player draft at the top

really- right now it only looks like 2 real franchise talents---- Zion and Barrett.

Reddish, Little, Morant, Langsford are def. all interesting prospects though- esp. Reddish who has a little Klay in him I think.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

I guess ultimately parameters need to be set in order to realistically judge the worst front offices. I'm just going off recency I suppose.

Well shit, if we were strictly going off recency I would have included Miami on this list. You know how much I love me some Heat hate.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

Seattle hasn’t had a franchise in over a decade and has won as many titles as the Dust Bowlers. We gifted them a dynasty but they couldn’t keep it together because of shitty management.

Yep, you're drunk. LOL

 

[BigFin]

Agreed. We saw what Young was in college. A high volume shooter who will get his stats but going to be questionable to build around.

Doncic is significantly more rounded.

I thought ATL should've drafted Jaren Jackson if they weren't going to get Doncic. Players like Trae Young aren't exactly hard to find.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I thought ATL should've drafted Jaren Jackson if they weren't going to get Doncic. Players like Trae Young aren't exactly hard to find.

I've been in love with that dudes game and I will shit talk Izzo every chance I get for the way he managed Jackson last year.

I wanted to drive to the Syracuse game and punch Izzo in his mouth

 

[WiggyRuss]

I've been in love with that dudes game and I will shit talk Izzo every chance I get for the way he managed Jackson last year.

I wanted to drive to the Syracuse game and punch Izzo in his mouth

if there was a redraft today i think that Doncic would of course go 1 but i also think JJJ would go #2....

its such a loaded draft- Doncic, Bagley, JJJ, Ayton etc....so many good guys.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

if there was a redraft today i think that Doncic would of course go 1 but i also think JJJ would go #2....

its such a loaded draft- Doncic, Bagley, JJJ, Ayton etc....so many good guys.

Heck yes it was....one of the better of recent memory

Alright so I'm going to berate my point. So while Michigan State blew a lead missing a million 3's in a row Izzo plays this clown




23 minutes and Jackson you ask?


FIFTEEN MINUTES. 15!!

Said clown from above averaged.....

.7 points a game!!! Not even one!

(Yes I had MSU in my pool and JJ in my fantasy)

 

[wazzu31]

Yep, you're drunk. LOL

I’m from the NW, it’s you’re drank, no self respecting person says they are drunk. Drunk driving is illegal, drank driving isn’t.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I’m from the NW, it’s you’re drank, no self respecting person says they are drunk. Drunk driving is illegal, drank driving isn’t.

"I am probably drunk"