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Top 10 poll: #10 player ever

Who is the #10 player in baseball history?

  • Jim Thome

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  • Alex Rodriguez

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  • Christy Mathewson

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  • Warren Spahn

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  • Frank Robinson

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  • Tom Seaver

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  • Greg Maddux

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  • Johnny Bench

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  • Joe Morgan

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  • Josh Gibson

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  • Bob Gibson

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  • Satchel Paige

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  • Albert Pujols

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  • Dave Parker

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  • Dick Allen

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  • Billy Wagner

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  • CC Sabathia

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Judge has been great, but he'll be 33 this year. How long do Giants live?
Winfield and Thomas are really the only baseball giants who have out in enough time even be in the discussion of being a GREAT. They just break down too young.
 

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Indeed. Give me the guy who beat Mahomes head-to-head better than anyone.
That guy is a scrub. Got clobbered TWICE by Eli Manning 'head to head' on the biggest stage

Also Mahomes teams vs Brady teams are 3-3 head to head in the regular season.

Brady is 2-0 vs him in the playoffs though, same as Eli vs Brady.

Maybe we should use Eli instead.

Or maybe we can stop being gay and treating football games like it's just one QB vs another.
 

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That guy is a scrub. Got clobbered TWICE by Eli Manning 'head to head' on the biggest stage

Also Mahomes teams vs Brady teams are 3-3 head to head in the regular season.

Brady is 2-0 vs him in the playoffs though, same as Eli vs Brady.

Maybe we should use Eli instead.

Or maybe we can stop being gay and treating football games like it's just one QB vs another.
By the transitive property we can conclude that Eli would have REALLY kicked the crap out of Mahomes in a big game.

Out of respect for this thread, I won’t argue this one further here. I’ll stick with Brady and you can have Mahomes and that works for both of us.
 

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Indeed. Give me the guy who beat Mahomes head-to-head better than anyone.
Jared Goff and Russell Wilson have beaten Mahomes head to head
 

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By the transitive property we can conclude that Eli would have REALLY kicked the crap out of Mahomes in a big game.
EXACTLY
Out of respect for this thread, I won’t argue this one further here. I’ll stick with Brady and you can have Mahomes and that works for both of us.
:thumb:
 

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So you would take Pedro over Clemens and Maddux?
Probably so yes. For just one game at their peak. Maybe Lincecum too but that's the homer in me.
 

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Probably so yes. For just one game at their peak. Maybe Lincecum too but that's the homer in me.
No, I meant on the overall all-time rankings. This is a tough assignment, but I think Pedro is the best I ever saw. Clemens, Randy and Maddux all in the conversation for me, though.
 

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No, I meant on the overall all-time rankings. This is a tough assignment, but I think Pedro is the best I ever saw. Clemens, Randy and Maddux all in the conversation for me, though.
You can’t take a persons career-wide resume and then ask for a single game. If you are looking at a single game, Timmeh HAS to be in THAT discussion. But if you look at the whole picture, Timmeh wouldn’t come in until maybe #2000.
 

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You can’t take a persons career-wide resume and then ask for a single game. If you are looking at a single game, Timmeh HAS to be in THAT discussion. But if you look at the whole picture, Timmeh wouldn’t come in until maybe #2000.
Fuck all those guys, for one game I want Dock Ellis tripping his balls off.
 

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No, I meant on the overall all-time rankings. This is a tough assignment, but I think Pedro is the best I ever saw. Clemens, Randy and Maddux all in the conversation for me, though.
For this list more than peak has to be considered. I’d put Clemens above Pedro for sure. Maybe the other two also, as you say it’s difficult
 

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Clemens - 24 seasons, 7 CY, 1 MVP, 3 top 5 CY, 2 top 10 CY, 6 top 10 MVP, 4672/1580 K/BB, 3 200+ ERA+, 14 additional 120+ ERA+, 707/118 GS/CG

Martinez - 15 seasons, 3 CY, 4 top 5 CY, 2 top 5 MVP, 3154/760 K/BB, 5 200+ ERA+, 7 additional 120+ ERA+, 409/76 GS/CG
 

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We (I) like WAR7 as a career defining stat. Why not look at an OPS+7 or ERA+7? You would need to only include qualified seasons, but I think those two could be valuable stats as well…
 
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