Top 10 college players of the 90's

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Top 10 college football players of the 1990s - NFL.com

1. Tommie Frazier
2. Danny Wuerffel
3. Peyton Manning
4. Ron Dayne
5. Orlando Pace
6. Charles Woodson
7. Warren Sapp
8. Dre Bly
9. Desmond Howard
10. Charlie Ward

 

[iowajerms]

Not a bad list, but I would add Ricky Williams in there somewhere.

 

[Smart]

So a QB with a passer rating of 138 and barely over 2,000 yards rushing on 5.7 YPC is ahead of a guy with over 7,000 career rushing yards on 5.8 YPC? It seems like the functional equivalent of saying Ken Norton Jr. from 1992-1994 was the greatest linebacker ever.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Homer pick. Maybe top 20 on defense only.

Certainly in many fans the best play in the 90s, meet Kenny Wheaton.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqlcRAZfRHc[/ame]

 

[WhiteMamba]

I don't think there is even a debate for #1.

When you think of the best in the 90s you think of A. Nebraska and B. TOMMIE FRAZIER

 

[oaknightshockey1]

So a QB with a passer rating of 138 and barely over 2,000 yards rushing on 5.7 YPC is ahead of a guy with over 7,000 career rushing yards on 5.8 YPC? It seems like the functional equivalent of saying Ken Norton Jr. from 1992-1994 was the greatest linebacker ever.

He was 33-3 as a starter and won 2 national titles. He was also a quarterback, so I'm not sure why you are trying to compare rushing statistics. He was .1 YPC behind Dayne. Frazier's stats also do not include anything relating to when he would pitch the ball. He made a LOT of plays that way, faking out the defenders and leaving the RB to waltz down the field alone.

 

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He was 33-3 as a starter and won 2 national titles. He was also a quarterback, so I'm not sure why you are trying to compare rushing statistics. He was .1 YPC behind Dayne. Frazier's stats also do not include anything relating to when he would pitch the ball. He made a LOT of plays that way, faking out the defenders and leaving the RB to waltz down the field alone.

Also was the MVP of all 3 National Championship games he was in.


I agree this list is missing Ricky Williams though.

 

[Codaxx]

Top 10 college football players of the 1990s - NFL.com

1. Tommie Frazier
2. Danny Wuerffel
3. Peyton Manning
4. Ron Dayne
5. Orlando Pace
6. Charles Woodson
7. Warren Sapp
8. Dre Bly
9. Desmond Howard
10. Charlie Ward

Please get Dayne off this list. Ricky easily belongs above him. Hell, I would have Rashaan Salaam over him.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Please get Dayne off this list. Ricky easily belongs above him. Hell, I would have Rashaan Salaam over him.

Not so sure about Dayne off the list. But would agree Rashan should be close to top 10.

 

[Codaxx]

Not so sure about Dayne off the list. But would agree Rashan should be close to top 10.

I never liked Dayne. Just had great offensive lines. If I am taking a big back in that era it is Eddie George. I would take Shaun Alexander, Marshal Faulk, and Tomlinson over Dayne

 

[oaknightshockey1]

Some of those plays...man he was good. It's rough being a Husker fan and having Tommie be the first QB I remember. By comparison, no one stacks up

 

[WhiteMamba]

I never liked Dayne. Just had great offensive lines. If I am taking a big back in that era it is Eddie George. Shaun Alexander and Tomlinson are other RBs, I take way before Dayne

Maybe so. But it is pretty difficult to leave the all time rusher off the list. A record LaMike James shatters if he comes back for his senior year.

 

[Codaxx]

Maybe so. But it is pretty difficult to leave the all time rusher off the list. A record LaMike James shatters if he comes back for his senior year.

Just is what it is. Never sure anyone ever thought he was one of the best RBs of his time.

 

[iowajerms]

I never liked Dayne. Just had great offensive lines. If I am taking a big back in that era it is Eddie George. I would take Shaun Alexander, Marshal Faulk, and Tomlinson over Dayne

I can see George, Faulk, and Tomlinson over Dayne, but not Alexander.

 

[Codaxx]

Surprised you Left coasters forgot about Steve Emtman. One of the best I ever seen. Brutal knee injury killed his NFL career.

 

[Codaxx]

I can see George, Faulk, and Tomlinson over Dayne, but not Alexander.

I can see that, but Salaam, George, Faulk, Ricky, and Tmlinson all get the nod over Dayne

 

[WhiteMamba]

Surprised you Left coasters forgot about Steve Emtman. One of the best I ever seen. Brutal knee injury killed his NFL career.

LMFAO!!!! Like you are going to catch me mentioning a Fusky in here.














Actually before opening he is the first player that came to mind.

 

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So a QB with a passer rating of 138 and barely over 2,000 yards rushing on 5.7 YPC is ahead of a guy with over 7,000 career rushing yards on 5.8 YPC? It seems like the functional equivalent of saying Ken Norton Jr. from 1992-1994 was the greatest linebacker ever.

 

[Smart]

Maybe so. But it is pretty difficult to leave the all time rusher off the list. A record LaMike James shatters if he comes back for his senior year.

As we've been over before, LMJ wouldn't have shattered the record. Dayne's official numbers didn't count bowl games. If you throw them in, James would have been over 2,000 yards behind (7,125 to 5,082). To say he would have "shattered" that record when he never had a season over 1,805 yards is just wrong.

At some point, the NCAA will throw bowl games into the record book retroactively. It ill probably happen shortly before someone seriously threatens Dayne's record.

 

[Smart]

He was 33-3 as a starter and won 2 national titles. He was also a quarterback, so I'm not sure why you are trying to compare rushing statistics. He was .1 YPC behind Dayne. Frazier's stats also do not include anything relating to when he would pitch the ball. He made a LOT of plays that way, faking out the defenders and leaving the RB to waltz down the field alone.

I mentioned his passer rating, which was all I needed to say about his passing. I think we can both agree that a guy with a completion percentage under 50 isn't the best passer ever. My point was that neither his raw rushing numbers nor YPC are very good. He just wasn't that good statistically.

The only argument he has going for him is winning percentage. But even that is flawed, since he played for a guy who never lost more than three games his entire career. In the ten years before Frazier came, Nebraska went 98-22-1. He was 33-3 as a starter. In the ten years before Dayne came to Wisconsin, we went 41-68-4. He went 37-13 as a starter (21-3 as a Junior and Senior). And as clutch as Frazier was, Dayne ran for 246 and 200 in his two Rose Bowls, where he went 2-0. It's tough to be more clutch than that.