tOfficial UCF superthread

[ellupo]

You can't win an Invitational if you can't play in said Invitational. It's called logic. Try it sometime.



You should try watching sports some time. Upsets, happened all the time. They happen so much in Legit Championships, their is a phrase for underdogs winning Championships, they are called Cinderellas. What dreams are made up - just like UCF.

The biggest one Leicester City and the greatest underdog story ever told: a primer for Americans and a lesson for tshirt bandwagoners

Leicester won the most competitive league in the most popular and competitive sport in their 1st year of getting promoted.

Or how about Iceland making it to the European Semi-finals in 2016... Iceland only has 300k people. That's like UCF's beach county of Brevard getting to the Quarterfinals of the World Cup.

Games are played for a reason. To see who is better. FBS whole postseason doesn't even allow for that to happen.

#UCFacts

Changing words to match your narrative is flawed logic. You should try real logic sometime.

 

[Eco]

Also @UCFhonors - if you want to try and have a real conversation, I'll ask you what it is you think UCF needs to do to get invited?

Certainly playing a very weak OCC, plus having a conference as poor as yours, isn't anything to 'prove' you belong. Make jokes about Alabama's schedule if you want, but they still play TAMU, Auburn, LSU every year with all are YEARS ahead of any opponent UCF plays.

So, it's certainly not fair for an undefeated UCF team to get to the playoffs when they play USF and a group of high schools.

 

[Eco]

Personally, I'd love to get the champions of each P5, plus 3 At Large Bids. That would give a UCF a chance if they take care of their own business on the field, but it also would avoid a 1 vs 16 which would just be a slaughter.

 

[UCFhonors]

I'm not sure why you are getting on with the personal attacks, makes me think you might be either on the spectrum, or a kid skipping classes. Real Keyboard Warrior you are.

And I'm well aware of what Leicester were able to accomplish. Truely an incredible accomplishment, that we've seen few times. But if you look at that team, it was loaded with uncover talent, most of which are now on much bigger teams, getting paid higher wages, and winning trophies whereas Leicester is back to fighting for a mid-table position.

With the state of social media, all the elites athletes are going to just 3-4 schools it seems. Alabama has something like 6, 5 star WR right now.

And I know you like playing the underdog rule and the, 'just give us a shot', but who do you expect to compete with Alabama/Clemson/Ohio State when they make 75% more money than a UCF does from it's football, which has better facilities, more perks, which attracts more elite athletes, and equals more national coverage, all of which ends with more NFL prospects which is what 99% of the kids want to do.

Oh you're just unaware of what UCF has to offer. No worries. Most are. But that is why I'm here - to teach the UCFacts.

UCF over Bama or Clemson

• UCF is the most popular university in the Southeast and in FL obvi
• World Renown location- Magical Orlando
• Largest Main campus in US by student size
• In-stadium tiki bar
• On field cabanas
• Actual urinals in the stadium - not the pig troughs in sec stadiums
• First football team at any level in FL to have an indoor practice facility
• Founded to support NASA
• Best Theme Parks
• Best Waves on the Southeast

I could go on. But the point is clear. Small town teams like Bama and Clemson can't compete with the UCFs of the world in the UCFuture where millennials want amenities and luxury.

And even when UCF has 4 year old FBS program, we beat Bama. UCF has got alot better since then. Bama, not so much.

#UCFacts

 

[wazzu31]

I actually spent my first two years at WSU, then Eastern. Born and raised in Spokane.

Ok, well you still get the joke. How do you go from Spokcompton then venture into being a Boise fan?

 

[Eco]

Oh you're just unaware of what UCF has to offer. No worries. Most are. But that is why I'm here - to teach the UCFacts.

UCF over Bama or Clemson

• UCF is the most popular university in the Southeast and in FL obvi
• World Renown location- Magical Orlando
• Largest Main campus in US by student size
• In-stadium tiki bar
• On field cabanas
• Actual urinals in the stadium - not the pig troughs in sec stadiums
• First football team at any level in FL to have an indoor practice facility
• Founded to support NASA
• Best Theme Parks
• Best Waves on the Southeast

I could go on. But the point is clear. Small town teams like Bama and Clemson can't compete with the UCFs of the world in the UCFuture where millennials want amenities and luxury.

And even when UCF has 4 year old FBS program, we beat Bama. UCF has got alot better since then. Bama, not so much.

#UCFacts

Yeah - no need wasting my time trying to talk to idiots. I'm surrounded with enough at work.

 

[BoiseMike19]

Ok, well you still get the joke. How do you go from Spokcompton then venture into being a Boise fan?

Grew up in the Shadle Park district and came down to start a business with a partner in 1992. Spent 2 years in Mill Creek, WA in the early 2000's but been back here since. Left Boise last night for Spokane to visit the folks. Typing from the Wild Horse Casino in Pendleton, OR right now. Wife in the shower, hopefully on the road before lunch.... Yes, confirmed dad does get ESPN2 for the game tonight however, the guy won't spring the extra $5 a month for HD.

 

[WhiteMamba]

We've seen this same bullshit many times before. Utah, TCU, BSU, etc. We don't know who the next one will be but we know this one too won't last.

Play nine P5 conference games and then win a tenth in a P5 conference championship and then pop off!!!

.... oh, wait.

 

[Rolltide94]

You can't win an Invitational if you can't play in said Invitational. It's called logic. Try it sometime.



You should try watching sports some time. Upsets, happened all the time. They happen so much in Legit Championships, their is a phrase for underdogs winning Championships, they are called Cinderellas. What dreams are made up - just like UCF.

The biggest one Leicester City and the greatest underdog story ever told: a primer for Americans and a lesson for tshirt bandwagoners

Leicester won the most competitive league in the most popular and competitive sport in their 1st year of getting promoted.

Or how about Iceland making it to the European Semi-finals in 2016... Iceland only has 300k people. That's like UCF's beach county of Brevard getting to the Quarterfinals of the World Cup.

Games are played for a reason. To see who is better. FBS whole postseason doesn't even allow for that to happen.

#UCFacts

So you want to go to a format that doesn't have a playoff...Most Leicester City fans probably agree with you, since they lost 5-2 and 2-1 to second place Arsenal and had a 2-4-2 record against the other top 5 teams in the Premier League.

Unlike UCF though, they actually had to play the top teams in the league twice...based on UCF's dismal 4-13 regular season and 7-15 overall record against P5 teams that would probably not end well. Based on your teams record against ranked P5 teams your premise is laughable. You are 0-7 against EOY ranked regular season P5 teams in the last 10 years...losing by an average score of 33-12.

UCF should really be advocating that we go back to the mythical natty, they might be able to steal one like BYU that way, because their actual on field results suggest that they can't win one on the field, regardless of how many times they pimp out their win over 4 loss Auburn.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Taking on field accomplishments away, I will say, UCF offers more than Boise does. And on the field accomplishments they are there with Boise of late.

I think when ALL things are considered UCF is more deserving of playing in a P5 conference.

Many years ago, Cowherd made a great point of how UCF is a sleeping giant. He made many great points in which I agreed with the overall theme.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Play nine P5 conference games and then win a tenth in a P5 conference championship and then pop off!!!

.... oh, wait.

/\/\/\
Annnnnnd, still not make the field of 4 because there are 4 teams that are more deserving.

 

[iowajerms]

I agree with @ThereIsNoPlace on this thread. Why keep him from creating posts? If you don't like his threads, don't bump it. That is what happens with my stupid, failed threads.

If you don't want to see his threads, isn't that what "ignore" is for when you click on the username?

 

[WizardHawk]

Don't you think that it's a problem to only 4-6 teams have a chance of being Invited? If they changed the NFL, MLB, MLS, NBA etc... to that postseason format, that would ruin the regular season. And make only 2-3 games relevant.

What if, a team can be bad one year. Than the next year be the only undefeated team, and beats the team who beats the 2 teams in the Invitational final? Would that happening be proof of a sham and UCFlawed postseason?

#UCFacts

I get that football is new to your fan base as they only just found it a couple of years ago, but boy are you entirely clueless. Just as everyone that continues to try and compare college football championships to any pro sport as well as college sports with way more games.

The rebuttal to your drivel is just obvious to everyone else. College football doesn't have a draft you dolt. Balance exists in pro sports because bad teams get to draft first.

You can't create a format to do that in college football so 80% of the top talent will always go to the same 5-7 teams.

The evaluation/ ranking system isn't what causes this disparity. It is the money and talent at the top schools that drives this.

No whiney BS bloated playoff or trying to say all wins are the same (lol at that blatant stupidity) will change that one inescapable truth.

Collage football championships will always be about the select few teams that can draw the most high level talent and pay the top staff long term. Period.

You're welcome for the free lesson.

 

[TheReal_NU]

The biggest one Leicester City and the greatest underdog story ever told: a primer for Americans and a lesson for tshirt bandwagoners

That’s a soccer reference.

@TigerBait1971
Can you get in here and explain this to all of us?

Cause I’m sure as shit not clicking on a soccer link.

 

[NU_FTW]

I agree with @ThereIsNoPlace on this thread. Why keep him from creating posts? If you don't like his threads, don't bump it. That is what happens with my stupid, failed threads.

If you don't want to see his threads, isn't that what "ignore" is for when you click on the username?

So can i start spamming for boner pills and bumping the thread nobody cares about every 15 minutes? you'd be cool with that then right?

 

[UCFhonors]

I get that football is new to your fan base as they only just found it a couple of years ago, but boy are you entirely clueless. Just as everyone that continues to try and compare college football championships to any pro sport as well as college sports with way more games.

The rebuttal to your drivel is just obvious to everyone else. College football doesn't have a draft you dolt. Balance exists in pro sports because bad teams get to draft first.

You can't create a format to do that in college football so 80% of the top talent will always go to the same 5-7 teams.

The evaluation/ ranking system isn't what causes this disparity. It is the money and talent at the top schools that drives this.

No whiney BS bloated playoff or trying to say all wins are the same (lol at that blatant stupidity) will change that one inescapable truth.

Collage football championships will always be about the select few teams that can draw the most high level talent and pay the top staff long term. Period.

You're welcome for the free lesson.

When you go to dozens of practices a year, for many years, like I have, you'll realize recruiting rankings are a sham. Just more click bait.

And there has been tons of academic literature about how money doesn't always buys wins. Readding Money Ball should suffice to prove that point.

Cfb is more like European Soccer since they have no draft or salary caps. But any Real UCFan should know money doesn't buy wins. Tennessee just proved that point, again.

Let that sink in.

#UCFacts

 

[WhiteMamba]

Don't you think that it's a problem to only 4-6 teams have a chance of being Invited? If they changed the NFL, MLB, MLS, NBA etc... to that postseason format, that would ruin the regular season. And make only 2-3 games relevant.

You’re right, Major League Baseball was an utter disaster from the 20s to the 90s. Terrible League and terrible 4 team playoff formats.

The Bronx Bombers, Big Red Machine and Swinging A’s teams made for some terrible playoff teams in AL and NL series titles and WS titles. And to add to those Pennant chases of the golden era of sports in MLB, they were downright meaningless.

Respectfully asking, how old are You?

 

[tnapucco]

seriously how does @fordman84 find the humor in this troll...

4 pages of interaction....that's how.

 

[tabascojet]

What if I told you OP has never even been to orlando.... .

 

[WhiteMamba]

Fan value, more is always better.

But if we are truly after crowning the best Cfb team year in and year out, CFB is knocking it out of the park right now.

Whereas, CBB with a 68 team field, sometimes crowns the best, and sometimes crowns the hottest team.

NBA and MLB have the luxury of crowning the best every single year because the championships are given while playing in a 7 game series.

With a huge playoff format in CFB, we may see more injury, less time to prepare, and where are the games played? Is home field going to be a factor with so many playoff games?

Right now we get to determine the 4 best teams, plenty of time for those teams to prepare, get healthy, all so that we get each teams very best product, all played out on Neutral fields.

Weather isn’t a factor, time to prepare isn’t a factor, home field isn’t a factor.... There are no excuses with the current format.

So many variables come into play with a vastly expanded field of teams, which imo diminishes crowning the VERY best team in the game we love.