tOfficial "Tom Brady & the New England Patriots" Superthread

[jdwills126]

Brady is an above average QB, but great? Nah. Maybe he used to be but now days - not so much. If the NFL thought he was as good as Peyton Manning, maybe they would schedule the Denver-New England game at Mile High instead of scheduling it at Foxboro in back-to-back seasons.

Check this out -
Combined current record of opponents for all teams at or over .500:
San Fran 30-15
Seattle 25-15
KC 24-16
Buff 26-20
Carol 25-20-1
Indy 24-20-1
Denv 21-18
Ariz 21-19
Miami 20-20
Houston 20-21
Balt 20-23-2
Pitt 16-22-1
Detroit 20-27-1
Dallas 19-26
Phil 17-24
Clev 16-23
San Diego 18-28
New England 16-28-1

Compared to average QB's like Russel Wilson, Brady is definitely a top 3 QB.

 

[HammerDown]

Compared to average QB's like Russel Wilson, Brady was definitely a top 3 QB about 10 yrs ago.

FIFY

 

[fordman84]

Numbers look oddly low for someone who has played as long as Brady.

 

[rmilia1]

Well we will definitely find out. NE's next 9 games are against teams that are a combined 38-24.

 

[jdwills126]

FIFY

Please you are messing up my reverse troll.

 

[rmilia1]

Fir whatever its worth, in the time since Brady has been starting QB at NE there are 13 other teams in the NFL that have a win percentage above .500 during that span. Bradys career record vs those teams is 67-23.

 

[HammerDown]

"I'm not a Brady defender or anything!" - rmilia1

 

[PolarVortex]

Compared to average QB's like Russel Wilson, Brady is definitely a top 3 QB.

Clever - in a Michigan dumbass sort of way.

 

[rmilia1]

"I'm not a Brady defender or anything!" - rmilia1

When did I ever say that?? I love Brady. Guy is a winner at every turn and has had some of the greatest seasons in NFL history. I dont think he is as gifted as Manning or even Rodgers/Brees or a handful of others but ( as Ive stated before ) if you give me one guy to win a game Ill take Brady every single time and Ill beat you nearly every single time. Thats not opinion, thats fact backed up by a dozen years of watching football. I know it irks you HD but it doesnt mean its not true.

 

[Iggloo]

I wish my NFL team had just such an NFL creation for the past dozen years.

 

[HammerDown]

When did I ever say that?? I love Brady. Guy is a winner at every turn and has had some of the greatest seasons in NFL history. I dont think he is as gifted as Manning or even Rodgers/Brees or a handful of others but ( as Ive stated before ) if you give me one guy to win a game Ill take Brady every single time and Ill beat you nearly every single time. Thats not opinion, thats fact backed up by a dozen years of watching football. I know it irks you HD but it doesnt mean its not true.

Right. So why hasn't he won shit in a decade?

 

[Lemon Harang Pie]

When did I ever say that?? I love Brady. Guy is a winner at every turn and has had some of the greatest seasons in NFL history. I dont think he is as gifted as Manning or even Rodgers/Brees or a handful of others but ( as Ive stated before ) if you give me one guy to win a game Ill take Brady every single time and Ill beat you nearly every single time. Thats not opinion, thats fact backed up by a dozen years of watching football. I know it irks you HD but it doesnt mean its not true.

No, I think it's definitive proof that you have absolutely know idea what the words "fact" and "opinion" mean.

 

[Bradyjustwins]

This is really stupid. The NFL has a set schedule that rotates.

Bingo....end of thread.

 

[jdwills126]

Clever - in a Michigan dumbass sort of way.

I am sorry, I forget how how Seattle fans get when the little fella gets picked on.

 

[HammerDown]

Bingo....end of thread.

Why hasn't Brady won shit in a decade is he's so great?

 

[rmilia1]

Right. So why hasn't he won shit in a decade?

He has won 3 AFC titles.. More than any other AFC QB ( save Mannings 3 ) in that same time. He left his teams with SB leads twice and they lost twice. People want to give the Pats D credit for their 3 wins but then dont want to blame the D for their SB losses. Reality is that the guy has playedgreat football most of his career. Even in the years when he has "struggled" his teams have won division titles and done so without much in the way of skill position talent. This argument is always weird to me. Do you have to hate every other QB to love Brady??? ( or Manning or Brees or Rodgers etc etc),,, Cant we just appreciate the unique abilities that each of them has shown??

 

[Lemon Harang Pie]

NFL creation?

I think he's mostly just a system QB who excelled in what was once a great system. It certainly doesn't hurt that he got to play the Jets, Miami, and Buffalo twice a season throughout his career too.

 

[HammerDown]

He has won 3 AFC titles.. More than any other AFC QB ( save Mannings 3 ) in that same time. He left his teams with SB leads twice and they lost twice. People want to give the Pats D credit for their 3 wins but then dont want to blame the D for their SB losses. Reality is that the guy has playedgreat football most of his career. Even in the years when he has "struggled" his teams have won division titles and done so without much in the way of skill position talent. This argument is always weird to me. Do you have to hate every other QB to love Brady??? ( or Manning or Brees or Rodgers etc etc),,, Cant we just appreciate the unique abilities that each of them has shown??

blah blah blah

You said you'd take Brady in a must-win game when THE FACT IS that NO ONE has lost more MUST WIN games in the last decade than him.

Sorry, man. I gotta call bullshit.

 

[HammerDown]

NFL creation?

I think he's mostly just a system QB who excelled in what was once a great system. It certainly doesn't hurt that he got to play the Jets, Miami, and Buffalo twice a season throughout his career too.

"Hater!" - Brady fans

 

[jdwills126]

Why hasn't Brady won shit in a decade is he's so great?

Pacing himself. He doesn't want Peyton getting to upset he doesn't have as many rings.