tOfficial 2017 trade deadline thread - or "someone shackle Benning for God's sake 2017"

[Judge Fudge]

On the plus side, you watched the Oscars over a Sabres game.

What was with that Lazar Move Dahser...............

Thought you guys might have wanted a Vet that can but the puck in the net

 

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What was with that Lazar Move Dahser...............

Thought you guys might have wanted a Vet that can but the puck in the net

Meh, maybe all the kid needs is a change of scenery, he's still young and we don't have to wash any Oilers stink off him, let's give him a chance to see what he can do.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Meh, maybe all the kid needs is a change of scenery, he's still young and we don't have to wash any Oilers stink off him, let's give him a chance to see what he can do.

do the flames play Lazar the rest of the way? or was this a trade for next year

if he does well down the stretch ... probably Vegas bound no?

 

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do the flames play Lazar the rest of the way? or was this a trade for next year

if he does well down the stretch ... probably Vegas bound no?

There's some speculation (and that's all that it is) that they protect Lazar and expose Brouwer thinking that Vegas might not pick him up with the huge price tag.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Meh, maybe all the kid needs is a change of scenery, he's still young and we don't have to wash any Oil Kings stink off him, let's give him a chance to see what he can do.

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He was drafted by the Sens, not the Oilers.

 

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Judge, I know who drafted him and where he played junior hockey lol

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

The Lazar deal reminds me a lot of the Baertschi deal. If he can pick it up even to the level Baertschi did Calgary'a got a nice third line piece moving forward. Nothing wrong with that.

 

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The Lazar deal reminds me a lot of the Baertschi deal. If he can pick it up even to the level Baertschi did Calgary'a got a nice third line piece moving forward. Nothing wrong with that.

That would be pretty sweet, obviously. All reports are (and I guess he just gave a interview on FAN 960 radio in Calgary) are that he is a great kid with a strong work ethic.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Yep. Normally the Pens are big players at the deadline, but it just seemed like the parts weren't moving. I'd say Caps with Shattenkirk was obviously the biggest move, everything else was just complimentary.

Don't know about the Habs. They needed to get some better players, what did they do, pick up a bunch of over-the-hill 4th line guys? Not impressed.

I wonder what the ask was for Duchene in the end? I'm surprised; I guess Sakic thinks he can get more after the expansion draft, when teams might have some extra flexibility. I would've thought the desperation of playoff-bound teams would have outweighed that.

When it comes down to it, Matt Duchene is a 26 year old averaging 60 points and 25 goals. If the ask, as reported, was a top young d-man, a first round pick and then some for a guy who's stats indicate second line centre on a Cup contender how many teams a) even have those assets, and b) of those, think a second line C is worth that price?

I thought Ottawa and Montreal were good possibilities for him, particularly the latter because I'm not as certain Price is sticking around as most are unless this team dramatically improves in front of him, but once Berg said Sergachev wasn't going anywhere that was pretty much it for them. Can't think of many other teams where that made sense.

 

[Dacks]

When it comes down to it, Matt Duchene is a 26 year old averaging 60 points and 25 goals. If the ask, as reported, was a top young d-man, a first round pick and then some for a guy who's stats indicate second line centre on a Cup contender how many teams a) even have those assets, and b) of those, think a second line C is worth that price?

I thought Ottawa and Montreal were good possibilities for him, particularly the latter because I'm not as certain Price is sticking around as most are unless this team dramatically improves in front of him, but once Berg said Sergachev wasn't going anywhere that was pretty much it for them. Can't think of many other teams where that made sense.

From what I heard, Pens were willing to provide some combination of Maatta or Pouliot, a 1st, Jarry (very good goalie prospect) and one of Sprong / Guetzel. But what combination? Hard to know if Sakic was asking too much, GMJR wasn't willing to go high enough, or Sakic just didn't have that much interest in our guys.

Personally, I would have gone Maatta & Jarry plus one of 1st/Sprong/Guentzel happily. I think Duchene just addresses so much of Pittsburgh's forward needs. But I have a feeling Sakic wanted at least two from that last bracket, at which point JR said know. He has high opinions of both Sprong/Guentzel.

Shocked Montreal didn't overpay for him, or the Isles either. I thought one of them would have made an offer he couldn't refuse. Both desperate for some talent to show their stars (Price/Tavares) that they are serious. Instead Montreal just picked up a bunch of filler.

 

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Instead Montreal just picked up a bunch of filler.

That Eric Macramella tweet above summed it up perfectly.

tOfficial 2017 trade deadline thread - or "someone shackle Benning for God's sake 2017"

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

From what I heard, Pens were willing to provide some combination of Maatta or Pouliot, a 1st, Jarry (very good goalie prospect) and one of Sprong / Guetzel. But what combination? Hard to know if Sakic was asking too much, GMJR wasn't willing to go high enough, or Sakic just didn't have that much interest in our guys.

Personally, I would have gone Maatta & Jarry plus one of 1st/Sprong/Guentzel happily. I think Duchene just addresses so much of Pittsburgh's forward needs. But I have a feeling Sakic wanted at least two from that last bracket, at which point JR said know. He has high opinions of both Sprong/Guentzel.

Shocked Montreal didn't overpay for him, or the Isles either. I thought one of them would have made an offer he couldn't refuse. Both desperate for some talent to show their stars (Price/Tavares) that they are serious. Instead Montreal just picked up a bunch of filler.

I don't think the Pens had what the Avs needed. If the primary need is defence, Maatta just isn't good enough to facilitate that deal.

 

[Dacks]

I don't think the Pens had what the Avs needed. If the primary need is defence, Maatta just isn't good enough to facilitate that deal.

Maybe. He didn't look that great on the Pens this year, but he's coming off injury and not the best fit for our system. This is a system that made castoffs like Shultz and Daley look absolutely stellar, because of their skating and puck-handling, but hurts a player like Maatta who has more traditional D talents. I think most teams see that, and would probably still take Maatta over Shultz, but Avs might not have been that team.

The other rumour out of Pittsburgh is that offers were on the table for Fleury, but pretty low, and the idiots in the front office just couldn't comprehend how little value Fleury has in the league. We know Pens management has a hard-on for guys like Fleury and Kunitz and have trouble letting them go, but now it will cost us in the expansion draft. (Won't lose Murray, but might have to swallow the Fleury buyout cap costs for four years if he doesn't waive his NMC.)

Overall, a little disappointed in GMJR this year, after the moves he did last year worked out so beautifully, but not too upset considering the market. I think Washington is definitely the favourite out of the East, and they got better, but I still like the Pens chances against anyone else. And who knows, if they get hot and build some momentum going into the playoffs anything can happen.

 

[thedddd]

Still no regrets on that decision, especially since that was one of those blown 2-goal leads.

I didn't give a shit about the Oscars, but I probably would have broken something after the hockey game.

 

[thedddd]

Yep. Normally the Pens are big players at the deadline, but it just seemed like the parts weren't moving. I'd say Caps with Shattenkirk was obviously the biggest move, everything else was just complimentary.

Don't know about the Habs. They needed to get some better players, what did they do, pick up a bunch of over-the-hill 4th line guys? Not impressed.

I wonder what the ask was for Duchene in the end? I'm surprised; I guess Sakic thinks he can get more after the expansion draft, when teams might have some extra flexibility. I would've thought the desperation of playoff-bound teams would have outweighed that.

Yeah not a lot of action this deadline but I think that made the Caps the big winner since they got the best player in any deal.

Quietly though I think the Panthers and Preds helped their top 9 wingers with Vanek and Parenteau.

 

[puckhead]

Wasn't he on waivers yesterday?

i think they said on one of the shows that 6 or 7 of the players moved were on waivers at some point this year

That would be pretty sweet, obviously. All reports are (and I guess he just gave a interview on FAN 960 radio in Calgary) are that he is a great kid with a strong work ethic.

He is hungry, that's for sure.

 

[puckhead]

Wait, you can get value for Vrbata at the deadline?.

huh, guess not

 

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Hockey News Winners and Losers...

NO. 1 LOSER – OTTAWA SENATORS

Look, we like depth just as much as the next guy, but that’s all it is, depth. Adding Alex Burrows and Victor Stalberg to your lineup is not exactly tilting the balance of power in the Eastern Conference. The Senators gave up what could turn out to be an excellent long-term project in Jonathan Dahlen to get Burrows, then signed Burrows to a two-year contract extension. Head scratch. But the real error, in this writer’s opinion, was dealing Curtis Lazar, who will flourish in Calgary after being almost ruined by the Senators.

Who knows if he will flourish (bit over the top methinks), I don't mind the move at the expense of a 2nd round pick.

Ranking the 2017 trade deadline winners and losers | The Hockey News

 

[Comeds]

Hockey News Winners and Losers...

NO. 1 LOSER – OTTAWA SENATORS

Look, we like depth just as much as the next guy, but that’s all it is, depth. Adding Alex Burrows and Victor Stalberg to your lineup is not exactly tilting the balance of power in the Eastern Conference. The Senators gave up what could turn out to be an excellent long-term project in Jonathan Dahlen to get Burrows, then signed Burrows to a two-year contract extension. Head scratch. But the real error, in this writer’s opinion, was dealing Curtis Lazar, who will flourish in Calgary after being almost ruined by the Senators.

Who knows if he will flourish (bit over the top methinks), I don't mind the move at the expense of a 2nd round pick.

Ranking the 2017 trade deadline winners and losers | The Hockey News

Woohoo! Montreal is the #4 loser! Go fuck yourselves Ottawa, St. Louis, and Iginla!

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Hockey News Winners and Losers...

NO. 1 LOSER – OTTAWA SENATORS

Look, we like depth just as much as the next guy, but that’s all it is, depth. Adding Alex Burrows and Victor Stalberg to your lineup is not exactly tilting the balance of power in the Eastern Conference. The Senators gave up what could turn out to be an excellent long-term project in Jonathan Dahlen to get Burrows, then signed Burrows to a two-year contract extension. Head scratch. But the real error, in this writer’s opinion, was dealing Curtis Lazar, who will flourish in Calgary after being almost ruined by the Senators.

Who knows if he will flourish (bit over the top methinks), I don't mind the move at the expense of a 2nd round pick.

Ranking the 2017 trade deadline winners and losers | The Hockey News

By: Ken Campbell *closes window*