tOffical all things Sterling thread

[LALakersboy24.7]

Nixon didn't get impeached for recording his activities - he got impeached for the criminal activities that he recorded himself doing

If I recall it was Forest Gump, who rated him out.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Submitted by Lemm Ex on 20 November 2013.
In Queensland we have the Invasion of Privacy Act 1971 which makes it lawful for a party to a conversation to record the conversation without the knowledge of other parties to the conversation. It applies to audio only - video capacity being lesser in 1971. The restrictions come into play when the recording party was to play the conversation to someone who wasn't party to it. There are some carefully prescribed conditions where that conversation can be played - public interest factors or legal actions. Cut to 2009 and the Information Privacy Act states that personal information should not be collected 'in a way that is unlawful or unfair' - a standard inclusion in privacy law. The Invasion of Privacy Act makes the covert recording of conversations lawful. But if the circumstances are such that there is no purpose served by not declaring that the recording is occurring - that make the covert recording 'unfair'. For example - if the only purpose of the recording was to create an accurate record of the conversation, is it unfair to not declare the fact of the recording and therefore a breach of privacy. This issue has yet to be judicially determined in Queensland

 

[cane_man]

People record private conversations all of the time - the police records inmates in prison, banks record when they are trying to collect debts, the police records simple traffic violations. Parents records nannies watching their children. What planet do you live on? It's been going on for decades. Stores records the parking lot activities.

OMFG! .

 

[gordontrue]

I'm starting to think that this thread has a real shot at passing the "Heat Haters club" thread in # of posts.

 

[starbigd]

They still aren't given equal opportunity?


Being black is a 100+ point SAT score bump.

This does not equalize anything. Maybe if schools, curriculum, and standards were equalized you'd have a point. Why don't you visit an inner city school some time and tell me THEN they have equal opportunity, LMAO

Blacks do NOT have equal opportunity ANYWHERE in American society. This is a fact, and it's not really arguable. There isn't a single solitary source you can find that will dispute this legitimately.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

The fact is that if recording those conversations were illegal - than the woman would now be facing criminal charges - let me know when that happens

 

[JDM]

It's not illegal - your links are bullshit - Sorry

California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632. The statute applies to "confidential communications" -- i.e., conversations in which one of the parties has an objectively reasonable expectation that no one is listening in or overhearing the conversation. See Flanagan v. Flanagan, 41 P.3d 575, 576-77, 578-82 (Cal. 2002). A California appellate court has ruled that this statute applies to the use of hidden video cameras to record conversations as well. See California v. Gibbons, 215 Cal. App. 3d 1204 (Cal Ct. App. 1989).

California Recording Law | Digital Media Law Project

 

[WhiteMamba]

"Larry Johnson's racism doesn't bother me because he's not an old, rich, white guy." - PC Hypocrites

Anybody that thinks that way isn't reasonable.

Make all the excuses you want.

Donald Sterling is a racist piece of shit.

So is Larry Johnson.

End of discussion.

true, and we all seem to know this.... but 8 pages later....

 

[JDM]

Submitted by Lemm Ex on 20 November 2013.
In Queensland we have the Invasion of Privacy Act 1971 which makes it lawful for a party to a conversation to record the conversation without the knowledge of other parties to the conversation. It applies to audio only - video capacity being lesser in 1971. The restrictions come into play when the recording party was to play the conversation to someone who wasn't party to it. There are some carefully prescribed conditions where that conversation can be played - public interest factors or legal actions. Cut to 2009 and the Information Privacy Act states that personal information should not be collected 'in a way that is unlawful or unfair' - a standard inclusion in privacy law. The Invasion of Privacy Act makes the covert recording of conversations lawful. But if the circumstances are such that there is no purpose served by not declaring that the recording is occurring - that make the covert recording 'unfair'. For example - if the only purpose of the recording was to create an accurate record of the conversation, is it unfair to not declare the fact of the recording and therefore a breach of privacy. This issue has yet to be judicially determined in Queensland

Ignoring that your quote is from a "lemm ex", this is California. In California any private conversation cannot be legally recorded.

 

[Black Adam]

Silver is going the smart thing. Really smart people at NBA HQ are telling him to drop Sterling like a hot rock.

Meanwhile, has anyone said a damned word about Larry Johnson's overt racism? Not. One. Word.

Didn't see it 'til now. But racism either way is complete ignorance. As someone in a mixed family i've seen both sides of it. It's just as disgusting coming from a white OR a black individual...

 

[True Lakers Fan]

The NBA community has been buzzing since Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling allegedly made racist statements caught on tape by his girlfriend, V. Stiviano. From the players staging silent protests, to coach Doc Rivers stating he might not return to the franchise, to fans, celebrities, and President Obama voicing their own opinions, everyone has felt unrest and reacted in many different ways -- the common denominator being that there is no place for Sterling's racism in the league.

The most common question brought up is what can be done legally to remove Sterling from the NBA? ESPN's Lester Munson reviewed the situation from a legal standpoint, and gave a great rundown about what can be done and what procedures are in place in the NBA's bylaws.

First and foremost, the league must verify that the tape is genuine, and the NBA has the power to make Sterling confirm whether or not the voice is his.

In California, it's illegal to record a private conversation without consent, but TMZ, who originally broke the story, also claims that Sterling was aware he was being recorded, as Stiviano often did so for archival purposes. NBA commissioner Adam Silver can require Sterling to confirm (or deny) that the evidence is valid:

 

[True Lakers Fan]

According to this link, Donald Sterling knew their conversations were being recorded and archived and consented - what a moron - lmao

What's needed to remove Donald Sterling from the NBA? Lester Munson reviews league's bylaws | CelticsLife.com - Boston Celtics Fan Site, Blog, T-shirts

 

[HammerDown]

Blacks do NOT have equal opportunity ANYWHERE in American society.

What nonsense. The president is black. That statement is pure foolishness.

 

[JDM]

Unless there is evidence on the tape that he consented to the recording, her word means absolutely nothing.

 

[LALakersboy24.7]

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Unless there is evidence on the tape that he consented to the recording, her word means absolutely nothing.

Donald Sterling was AWARE he was being taped during the conversation that was posted on TMZ
Sports, in which the L.A. Clippers owner went on a racial rant ... so claims the woman who taped him.

A source connected with V. Stiviano tells TMZ Sports ... the full conversation lasted approximately 1 hour. We're told Stiviano insists it was clear to Sterling at the beginning of the conversation he was being recorded.
What's more ... our sources say Stiviano routinely recorded her conversations with Sterling as HIS "archivist." And what's more ... she would regularly play the tapes back to him because he would often forget what he had said.

Our sources say sometime after the tape was recorded on April 9 ... Stiviano and Sterling got in an argument because he wanted her to sign a confidentiality agreement ... which she would not. We're told he then denied ever making the racist statements on the tape, so she played the entire tape for back him ... before it was ever posted on TMZ Sports.

Read more: Donald Sterling KNEW He Was Being Recorded -- Ex GF Tells Friends | TMZ.com

 

[JDM]

If she can't prove that her word means nothing.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

So far - Sterling has not denied anything other then insisting he isn't stupid

 

[HammerDown]

Yeah, she's very trustworthy. A billionaire allowing those comments to be recorded. Uh huh.

 

[HammerDown]

So far - Sterling has not denied anything other then insisting he isn't stupid

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