Series Thread: TkSecond Round: Pittsburgh Penguins v. Washington Capitals

[Kevin12773]

I've got no love for Wilson, but I didn't see that as suspension worthy.

Borderline for sure, close to dirty, and it sucks for my team. But I think they got this right.

Agreed... Wilson does some dumb things but I think some pens fans forget about guys like kasparatis and ulffy samuelson. Let's not throw stones

 

[BGDave]

Just gonna leave this here and show myself out...

 

[dare2be]

Agreed... Wilson does some dumb things but I think some pens fans forget about guys like kasparatis and ulffy samuelson. Let's not throw stones

Not throwing stones. In a vaccuum, looking at this play only and the rulebook, I think they got it wrong by over-applying the verbiage to the situation. That is all.

 

[Droopdog51]

Agreed... Wilson does some dumb things but I think some pens fans forget about guys like kasparatis and ulffy samuelson. Let's not throw stones

You mean this guy? He's a saint that helps out widows and orphans. Salt of the earth type guy. Who could possibly say anything bad about him?

 

[elocomotive]

Not throwing stones. In a vaccuum, looking at this play only and the rulebook, I think they got it wrong by over-applying the verbiage to the situation. That is all.

"Well with your bad back, Ed. You shouldn't be throwing anyone."

 

[elocomotive]

Duuuhhhhhhh....

 

[dash]

Just gonna leave this here and show myself out...

Is that the best Matt Cooke picture you could find, Dave? I much prefer this one...

 

[ritari330]

In case anyone wanted the video explanation on the Wilson hit (4th hit in the video):

DOPS on unavoidable head contact

 

[forty_three]

Not throwing stones. In a vaccuum, looking at this play only and the rulebook, I think they got it wrong by over-applying the verbiage to the situation. That is all.

Amplified by the fact that it's the second time this playoffs they've done it related to the same guy.

The DOPeS are tasked with protecting player safety. By letting repeat offenders get away with it seems to go against the old mission statement.

 

[Darkstone42]

I have some thoughts on the Wilson hit.

 

[elocomotive]

I have some thoughts on the Wilson hit.

Put your earmuffs on, kids. Here comes one of those famous profanity-laced tirades @Darkstone42 is famous for.

 

[dash]

Put your earmuffs on, kids. Here comes one of those famous profanity-laced tirades @Darkstone42 is famous for.

DS would make Bruce Boudreau blush (disclaimer: NSFW - language)

 

[obxyankeefan]

DS would make Bruce Boudreau blush (disclaimer: NSFW - language)

Does #1 on that board behind him under KEYS TO VICTORY say do not play the Penguins in the second round?

 

[elocomotive]

In case anyone wanted the video explanation on the Wilson hit (4th hit in the video):

DOPS on unavoidable head contact

Pretty good video. It's really hard to judge some of them. The more I watch the Wilson hit, the more I lean toward suspension, but it's like 60/40. The Hornqvist one seemed the worst of the bunch. The Sergachev hit seemed like he did absolutely nothing wrong. But someone might watch that same set and think differently.

I'm always a fan of bright line rules, because what we get upset about with these situations is the subjectivity. In the long term, I think a zero tolerance policy on head hits will become the rule. It will unfairly punish some guys or give teams power plays. But it puts the onus on the players to control their checks in the same way they are responsible for their sticks. Until they adopt a more objective policy, the rulings will be frustrating and the interpretations varied.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Pretty good video. It's really hard to judge some of them. The more I watch the Wilson hit, the more I lean toward suspension, but it's like 60/40. The Hornqvist one seemed the worst of the bunch. The Sergachev hit seemed like he did absolutely nothing wrong. But someone might watch that same set and think differently.

I'm always a fan of bright line rules, because what we get upset about with these situations is the subjectivity. In the long term, I think a zero tolerance policy on head hits will become the rule. It will unfairly punish some guys or give teams power plays. But it puts the onus on the players to control their checks in the same way they are responsible for their sticks. Until they adopt a more objective policy, the rulings will be frustrating and the interpretations varied.

The rule is simple to understand.

1 If my guy hits your guy in the head, it is legal.
2 If your guy hits my guy in the head, it is illegal.

So reading the rules the NHL got it wrong.

 

[scoutyjones2]

Agreed... Wilson does some dumb things but I think some pens fans forget about guys like kasparatis and ulffy samuelson. Let's not throw stones

What a load of shit. Because some previous Pen was an asshat means Pens fans can't call out another asshat? How stoopid

 

[Darkstone42]

Put your earmuffs on, kids. Here comes one of those famous profanity-laced tirades @Darkstone42 is famous for.

Oh fiddlesticks.

 

[Kevin12773]

What a load of shit. Because some previous Pen was an asshat means Pens fans can't call out another asshat? How stoopid

Meh agree to disagree.

 

[forty_three]

What a load of shit. Because some previous Pen was an asshat means Pens fans can't call out another asshat? How stoopid

BUT WHAT ABOUT...

Oh fiddlesticks.

It is far too early in the morning for that kind of tomfoolery. I'm at work for by gosh.

 

[Droopdog51]

Pretty good video. It's really hard to judge some of them. The more I watch the Wilson hit, the more I lean toward suspension, but it's like 60/40. The Hornqvist one seemed the worst of the bunch. The Sergachev hit seemed like he did absolutely nothing wrong. But someone might watch that same set and think differently.

I'm always a fan of bright line rules, because what we get upset about with these situations is the subjectivity. In the long term, I think a zero tolerance policy on head hits will become the rule. It will unfairly punish some guys or give teams power plays. But it puts the onus on the players to control their checks in the same way they are responsible for their sticks. Until they adopt a more objective policy, the rulings will be frustrating and the interpretations varied.

This right here.

I used to be a huge NFL and Steelers fan. I haven't watched an NFL game since half time of week 3. I was already getting frustrated with the fact that the officiating was getting ridiculous. I used to be able to watch a game and be able to identify what was a legal hit, what was pass interference, and even what was a catch. Time after time games were being decided by the finest minute detail of a rule and that final ruling didn't match what I saw with my own eyes. Only to get some BS explanation that tells me what I saw isn't what I saw. Then what happened in week 3 with the protest was the final straw, but that's a whole other story.

These leagues need to understand that when what fans see and what the officials call do not match, people are going to lose interest.

I'm not saying that is the case with this call. To me, he went for the head shot, but I can't say without a doubt that was his intent. However, this hit needs to be taken into account if there is another borderline hit.

OK. stepping off the soapbox now......