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do you really think Rick and the group will go all commando on the group at the hospital?

i know Rick and our group hasn't had the best experience with other groups, but I don't think the group at the hospital in inherently evil quite like Gareth or the Governor. Sure they are avoiding people they can't control but they are just trying to survive like everyone and I'm sure they do actually help some people even if it's not clear yet.

they have a monetary system in place. seems to me the best bet would be to take some weapons, ammo and food and offer a trade to get back people you want. sure it's going to cost you, but i don't think they are savages and would let people go if you give them compensation.

They kidnap the weak and dispose of the strong to keep their powerbase. How is that not falling in the realm of evil?

We still don't know what happened with Carol and Daryl, but you notice that Carol is at the hospital (considered controllable at this point since they obviously don't know her yet.) and Daryl is not (left behind just like when the took Beth?)

The girl who had her arm cut off last week was a sex slave to them and was not allowed to lave. The janitor kid's dad was not kept around but he was because of his leg injury. They have a shaft piled up with dead bodies that they have disposed of. They obviously are not open to sharing resources unless it benefits them.

Also, don't forget about how Beth was taken in the first place. They set up the zombie distraction at the cabin and then swooped in and kidnapped her while Daryl was under siege.

They are "bad people" who are only out for themselves with no regards for others despite what the stupid chick in charge is stating. Rick and company have learned enough not to trust this type of people. Trying to trade with them would only lead to betrayal and disaster.
 

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With Noah having escaped, as well as knowing the layout of the hospital and the number of people they'll have to deal with, I'm sure Dawn and her crew realize an attack is imminent. Hopefully Rick's crew catches them while their guards are down in one way or another...and closes the deal via a diversion, guerrilla tactic style, so they can get back to the business of hooking back up w/ Abraham & co. for the DC rendezvous.

I am not sure that they consider Noah's escape as a big threat. They could have shot him if they would have wanted to.

He was limping badly into walker infested territory. He has no resources to speak of. He does not have any group support for survival. They probably consider him dead meat or at "best" an afterthought at this point. They are certainly not counting on him hooking up with Rick and company and coming to attack their well-protected fortress (my guess at least).

Noah does know the layout but it is still through walker infested grounds and then upstairs and they have weapons and a lock-down type situation.

My guess is that Rick and company will assault the hospital as this makes for a good violent storyline, but if it was me in Rick's situation I would wait outside the hospital and ambush their cars at some distance. That would weaken their numbers and arms. If you could do it without destroying the vehicle(s), you might even be able to use them to infiltrate the hospital grounds without arousing suspicion until it is too late (Trojan horse).
 

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I've missed a couple of episodes. Gotta stop reading this fucking thread.
 

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There is no way that Rick lets any of the group stay held captive by another group....not a chance. Be prepared if Beth and Carol aren't with Daryl when he walks out of the woods. I think as some do that this next episode will be all about Abraham and those who came with him. They will probably end with teaser of Noah walking out with Daryl....Beth and Carol still at the hospital.
 

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There is no way that Rick lets any of the group stay held captive by another group....not a chance. Be prepared if Beth and Carol aren't with Daryl when he walks out of the woods. I think as some do that this next episode will be all about Abraham and those who came with him. They will probably end with teaser of Noah walking out with Daryl....Beth and Carol still at the hospital.

That's what I think too. I hate the segregated episode routine but that's how this is going to go. The end of Sunday's episode will tease more towards the hospital.
 

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So it's looking like Ep 5 will in fact be Abe and his crew entirely


6 will be what happened with Daryl and Carol


7 will pick up from Daryl coming out of the woods(presumably with Noah) and rounding up some of the troops from the church


And the mid season finale will be the ultimate show down.


This is my guess off of extremely vague episode synopsis.
 

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So it's looking like Ep 5 will in fact be Abe and his crew entirely


6 will be what happened with Daryl and Carol


7 will pick up from Daryl coming out of the woods(presumably with Noah) and rounding up some of the troops from the church


And the mid season finale will be the ultimate show down.


This is my guess off of extremely vague episode synopsis.

I think that's a pretty good guess. Trying real hard not to click on that aforementioned "are you sure" button. ;)
 

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I think that's a pretty good guess. Trying real hard not to click on that aforementioned "are you sure" button. ;)

lol ya I wouldn't. Most spoilers posted on there are not really spoilers such as the synopsis I read but that one in particular was a blatant "this is what happens" :L
 

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The only part missing, is why does Darryl feel the need to hide "Noah"?

Are the hospital peeps actively pursuing him? Because they acted like they didn't care if he escaped??
 

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The only part missing, is why does Darryl feel the need to hide "Noah"?

Are the hospital peeps actively pursuing him? Because they acted like they didn't care if he escaped??

I am hesitant to read too much into that.

Remember how they were making it look like there was some huge connection between Gareth and Bob, yet it ended up being nothing more than the connection they had due to the trough scene.

Not a huge fan of these bait-n-switch tactics. But the stories and in-episode reveals have been good enough for me to look the other way for now.
 

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I am hesitant to read too much into that.

Remember how they were making it look like there was some huge connection between Gareth and Bob, yet it ended up being nothing more than the connection they had due to the trough scene.

Not a huge fan of these bait-n-switch tactics. But the stories and in-episode reveals have been good enough for me to look the other way for now.

Yeah I think he was being hidden from the audience moreso than from Michonne or anyone else. While it doesn't really make sense, I guess they figure it makes for better TV (like many other things on this show).
 

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I watched the ep again tonight.

How did Beth know which key to grab? There were about 6 different keys in that drawer, and she knew exactly which key to grab.

I still think that was not a smile, but a grimace when Noah left without her. I know it was SUPPOSED to be a smoke, but it just didn't look like one.

The "cops" can come and go with no problem. So why did Beth and Noah have to repel down the elevator shaft?
 

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OT a bit here but I thought I saw the actress who plays Beth on an upcoming thing on the Syfy channel so I checked out her bio. to see. It wasn't her but I never would have guessed that she is actually 29 years old. Dirty thoughts about her are now okay. :whistle:
 

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The only part missing, is why does Darryl feel the need to hide "Noah"?

Are the hospital peeps actively pursuing him? Because they acted like they didn't care if he escaped??

I dont think he is actually hiding him, its basically one weapon, two people, so the guy in back is gonna wait til Daryl says its safe. Like I said, if it was someone dangerous, he would be in front of Daryl with the crossbow aimed at the back of his head.
 

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Ya, my bad....my wife was telling me bout someone the other day?? Don't know why I thought it was Beth, but it's not.
 

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So it's looking like Ep 5 will in fact be Abe and his crew entirely


6 will be what happened with Daryl and Carol


7 will pick up from Daryl coming out of the woods(presumably with Noah) and rounding up some of the troops from the church


And the mid season finale will be the ultimate show down.


This is my guess off of extremely vague episode synopsis.


Sounds reasonable.
 

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Who didn't see that coming with the bus?
 
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