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The Quarterback Position 2016

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I get more and more comfortable with the thought of Mark Sanchez playing QB for the Denver Broncos, but today I'm thinking John Elway wants the next John Elway on the team. Sanchez is not that guy - and Kaepernick is not that guy.

Is that guy in the NFL draft? Elway has enough ammo to go get Wentz or Goff, but probably won't. The Broncos are certainly at 31 in position to draft the 3rd best QB in this draft. Since the 3rd best QB will need some development - you can draft him with the 31st pick of the 1st round - and get a 5 year contract to develop him (with Oz's contract finishing one year short of 5 due to his 2nd round status). If the Broncos are going to invest in a QB this year - they might as well do it in the 1st round and get 5 years on the contract.

I was laughing at DC and SS for suggesting the Broncos would go QB with the 1st pick, but now I agree they have a good point.

If the Broncos do intend to trade for Kaepernick - they will inherit the 9ers contract (reports are they have an agreement with Kaepernick to lower his salary) - which at this point only guarantees against injury.So the Broncos will control him through 2019, but can cut him at zero dead money at any time. But are the Broncos going to pay Sanchez $4.5 Million and Kaepernick - $12 million - effectively not reducing their QB costs from last year?

As it currently stands - the Broncos have 5.8 Million salary cap space. They need about $5 million for the rookie pool, but have $10 million on the books for Clady -who will likely be traded before 4/18 or released. The only way to get to the $12 million for Kaepernick - would be to off load Clay's contract and trade Sanchez to the 9ers.

However, you wouldn't trade Sanchez to the 9ers until the later part of the 1st day of the draft - because you want to keep the other 31 teams guessing about what you are going to do with your 1st pick. You certainly don't want to signal your intentions to pick a QB for fear someone will jump ahead of you.

So if this line of thought - works for the Broncos - they acquire Kaepernick - - pick the best QB after the first two chosen - and trade Sanchez and his $4.5 million salary cap number. Now you enter the season with Kaepernick as the starter - Prescott, Lynch or Cook as the heir apparent and Siemian with one year experience on the rookie fighting for the 2nd spot in 2016. And - you have $4 million more in salary cap money to spend on top of the rookie player pool set aside. The Broncos then spend the $4 million on some cheap 2nd waive FA vets looking for work.
 

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Wentz is the only QB I would trade up for in this draft
 

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Now - if the Broncos are going to build an offense around Kaepernick (assuming he is acquired) - it would make sense to get the player in the draft most like Kaepernick - that would be Dak Prescott (IMO).

Kaepernick, Prescott/Siemian - Kaepernick for 4 years and Prescott for 5 years - Siemian comes up in 3 years.

Pair a legit threat to run the ball from the QB position - with a strengthened Oline (4 new starters) -and two potentially all pro WRs with CJ Anderson busting runs and you have the kind of offense that won't go 3 and out an astonishing 52% of the time like the Broncos did last year. The best present for the greatest defense in Broncos history is to give them an offense they can be proud of.
 

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As much as I would have liked to see Kap here, I just don't see the Broncos signing him now that Sanchez is aboard ..

I think Sanchez is here as the experienced vet who has demonstrated that he can step in and run the offense

Plus, I don't see paying two vet QBs the equivalent of Manning's 19 mil

The Sanchez signing is an indication to me that we are going to go after the QB of the future in this draft

Lynch has been mentioned, Prescott has been mentioned, but don't count out Jones
 

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I don't think you use a 1st round pick on Jones and if you don't - you will only get 4 years with a guy who needs at least one more year to develop than his athletic peers. I don't think the Broncos want a trip to Oz again.

In my mind - that makes it Lynch or Prescott -with Prescott having an edge. If you miss the 1st round and 5 year contract - the QB most ready may be Hogan or Cook - I think Hogan has the edge there.
 

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If Wentz falls past san fran at 7 i would bet elway would be itching to go get him. Dude was made for kubiak's offense
 

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I don't think you use a 1st round pick on Jones and if you don't - you will only get 4 years with a guy who needs at least one more year to develop than his athletic peers. I don't think the Broncos want a trip to Oz again.

In my mind - that makes it Lynch or Prescott -with Prescott having an edge. If you miss the 1st round and 5 year contract - the QB most ready may be Hogan or Cook - I think Hogan has the edge there.



Hogan with his long delivery on his throws will be a problem. Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford
 

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If we are going QB late (we will go early imo) I think we should look at Driskel (unless he goes round 3 which i am starting to see... he is a good athlete), Brissett, or Brandon Allen
 

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I'd take a close look at Trevone Boykin from TCU. Reminds me of Tyrod Taylor who we tried to sign last year. Looks like a fit for Kubes' offense.
 

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Connor Cook is my guy. The more I watch the more I am hoping the Broncos go get him. He didn't have his best year this past year and I know the rumors about his leadership abilities are out there but man the guy can throw the football. He is the one guy beyond the top-2 that could step in day 1 and start and do well.

Also the more I actually listen to those who played with him the more I think the media have greatly exaggerated his lack of leadership. I don't think he is the nicest guy in the world but neither was Elway. My mom actually has talked to Elway a few times and she told me his cocky attitude almost made her not want to be a Bronco fan. Thankfully she married a Bronco fan and has 3 kids that are huge Bronco fans so she didn't have much choice. Sometimes though that attitude does pay off in believing in yourself maybe beyond what you should.
 

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I'd take a close look at Trevone Boykin from TCU. Reminds me of Tyrod Taylor who we tried to sign last year. Looks like a fit for Kubes' offense.

Like Taylor he would be a major project. The pure athleticism is definitely there. He actually throws a nice pass but he is coming from one of the simplest offenses in college football. He was known for staring down his first read and if it wasn't open then taking off running. So to me if we draft him in the late rounds he is a 3-4 year project to get ready for the NFL. Might not see anything from him until the 1st contract is up. Hard to keep a player like that on the roster. Now I wouldn't mind him being an Undrafted Rookie that we bring into camp and then stick on the Practice Squad for a couple of years. If nothing else he would be a great guy to practice against to mimic the running QB's we will face.
 

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Connor Cook is my guy. The more I watch the more I am hoping the Broncos go get him. He didn't have his best year this past year and I know the rumors about his leadership abilities are out there but man the guy can throw the football. He is the one guy beyond the top-2 that could step in day 1 and start and do well.

Also the more I actually listen to those who played with him the more I think the media have greatly exaggerated his lack of leadership. I don't think he is the nicest guy in the world but neither was Elway. My mom actually has talked to Elway a few times and she told me his cocky attitude almost made her not want to be a Bronco fan. Thankfully she married a Bronco fan and has 3 kids that are huge Bronco fans so she didn't have much choice. Sometimes though that attitude does pay off in believing in yourself maybe beyond what you should.

Yes Elway is an asshole . I know this because my son' teacher, her husband works in the video dept for the Broncos and she bring in his Super Bowl rings to show the kids and has commented multiple times how rude Elway is to the general public.
 

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Ming, I should have added Cook in the mix .. I like him a lot, and I think he'd fit well here

And I didn;t mean to imply that Jones should / would be taken on day one ..

I love the guy's potential, but he is not a first round pick
 

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I'd take a close look at Trevone Boykin from TCU. Reminds me of Tyrod Taylor who we tried to sign last year. Looks like a fit for Kubes' offense.

He's an intriguing prospect SS .. He's small, and sometimes looks like a WR playing QB, but then he'll make some deadly accurate throw where you'll just say "wow" ...

He's a late rounder, right ?? ... Very difficult to gauge ...
 

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I'm gonna throw the name Kessler out there. For no reason other than I spent the entirety of the college football season in Bakersfield, CA thus saw Kessler in the paper quite a bit. Never read the articles as I don't follow USC, but a quick search of Cody Kessler showed he got the record for highest comp % in school history, so at least he's accurate.

Although, USC QBs don't have a great track record lately (cough buttfumble cough).
 

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He's an intriguing prospect SS .. He's small, and sometimes looks like a WR playing QB, but then he'll make some deadly accurate throw where you'll just say "wow" ...

He's a late rounder, right ?? ... Very difficult to gauge ...
I'm no expert, but think 5th round is highest he would go, more like 6th.

Definitely a developmental project.
 

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If we are going QB late (we will go early imo) I think we should look at Driskel (unless he goes round 3 which i am starting to see... he is a good athlete), Brissett, or Brandon Allen


Good to see you around and posting Doc.
 
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