The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[trojanfan12]

I've always said that if I were a Bama fan I'd tell you all to kiss my ass and count the crystal about 3 times a day. I'd love to have some Dawg hate for win 3 NCs like that. Hell I get the Dawg hate now and all I have are pre-season NCs.

Exactly!!

 

[FSUmanager]

Here let me say it so the Bama Fan feels better.

The ACC is a bunch of punk ass little bitches for not playing 9 games.


With that being said there is no reason to worry about the ACC for most other conference's fans because they think the ACC is a joke outside of FSU and Clemson. Hell even WITH FSU and Clemson they think it is a joke so what is worse? Someone complaining about a conference who won 7 straight championships OR people thinking your conference is total shit?

 

[4down20]

Again, you're not going to see the ACC get that kind of "love" because their fans aren't running around claiming to be the top conference and calling other conferences weak.

You think it's only fans?



Everyone knows it. At best you can say the gap isn't all that large, and you can even say last year the gap closed a lot because the SEC was down.

But thanks for finally admitting all this shit has very little to do with the crap people make it out to be, and way more to do with a bunch of butthurt people just looking for anything to throw at those who have experienced success.

 

[LawDawg]

Exactly!!

Can you imagine the number of times I'd use LOL? I'd rub the fucking letters right off the keys of my keyboard!

 

[WizardHawk]

Simple observation - when the PAC12 went from 10 to 12 teams, did they say, "we are going to stay at 9 games because we have balls the other conferences don't have," or did it just make sense to stay at 9 because you were already there? Just asking.

It was discussed. It's not like they'd have to change the names on a bunch of office doors or something. It wouldn't have been any more difficult to drop one than to keep it the same. We don't have a balanced schedule either way.

Point is there are as many coaches in our conference that want 9 as there are that want 8 in yours.

Yes, I saw what you said about the Pac in terms of their FCS history. Until just a few years ago you were only given 1/2 game credit for wins vs FCS in terms of conference standings. It pretty much kept anyone from doing it. Pretty much only happened when teams canceled games and there was no one else to fill. I'd love to see the return to that.

 

[4down20]

Yes, I saw what you said about the Pac in terms of their FCS history. Until just a few years ago you were only given 1/2 game credit for wins vs FCS in terms of conference standings. It pretty much kept anyone from doing it. Pretty much only happened when teams canceled games and there was no one else to fill. I'd love to see the return to that.

They just need to make them not count for being bowl eligible. The problem is they want more and more bowls, so having FCS makes it possible mathematically to have more bowl eligible teams.

 

[WizardHawk]

They just need to make them not count for being bowl eligible. The problem is they want more and more bowls, so having FCS makes it possible mathematically to have more bowl eligible teams.

Honestly leaving them only count for 1/2 win in conference tie breakers is enough. Let the bottom dwellers in your conference that doesn't care anyway have that option and don't make it hurt big teams that end up having to do one because a team backs out of a game. I mean it would still impact ties, but not bowls.

 

[4down20]

Honestly leaving them only count for 1/2 win in conference tie breakers is enough. Let the bottom dwellers in your conference that doesn't care anyway have that option and don't make it hurt big teams that end up having to do one because a team backs out of a game. I mean it would still impact ties, but not bowls.

They don't do it that way in the SEC. I've never seen it even come down to a tie breaker that far, but if it did, then the tie breaker was the BCS rankings.

 

[LawDawg]

They just need to make them not count for being bowl eligible. The problem is they want more and more bowls, so having FCS makes it possible mathematically to have more bowl eligible teams.

Can you believe they are going to have 4o next year ... 80 fricking teams. This is like the old NHL!

 

[4down20]

Can you believe they are going to have 4o next year ... 80 fricking teams. This is like the old NHL!

I'm fine with the bowl games mostly I suppose.

More games is great and I like that part. But I am torn a bit because going to bowl games meant quite a bit more back in the day.

 

[LawDawg]

I'm fine with the bowl games mostly I suppose.

More games is great and I like that part. But I am torn a bit because going to bowl games meant quite a bit more back in the day.

I like bowl games, too, but you are going to have 5-7 teams get in, possibly. Just way too many IMHO.

 

[WizardHawk]

We just need to drop everyone back to 6 conference games and increase the FCS games and everyone will end up going to a bowl. The equivalent of a participation trophy for all. Modern football at its finest.

 

[yeodonie]

We just need to drop everyone back to 6 conference games and increase the FCS games and everyone will end up going to a bowl. The equivalent of a participation trophy for all. Modern football at its finest.

I'm sure TEAM SEC has been trying to figure out a way to be in a conf without actually playing anyone in said conference. It's genius. "We are in the toughest conference! Reward us!" /Plays nobody in conference

 

[trojanfan12]

You think it's only fans?



Everyone knows it. At best you can say the gap isn't all that large, and you can even say last year the gap closed a lot because the SEC was down.

But thanks for finally admitting all this shit has very little to do with the crap people make it out to be, and way more to do with a bunch of butthurt people just looking for anything to throw at those who have experienced success.

And along comes 4d20 to prove my point. Funny thing is, 4d20 is by far the most butthurt member of college footballs most butthurt fanbase and he's calling others butthurt. The irony is just too much fun!!

 

[7Samurai13]

We just need to drop everyone back to 6 conference games and increase the FCS games and everyone will end up going to a bowl. The equivalent of a participation trophy for all. Modern football at its finest.

With 40+ bowl games aren't we already there? They need to start cutting bowl games, no adding more.

 

[bamabear82]

And along comes 4d20 to prove my point. Funny thing is, 4d20 is by far the most butthurt member of college footballs most butthurt fanbase and he's calling others butthurt. The irony is just too much fun!!

 

[SUBuddha]

Great interview with D Shaw here
Q&A: David Shaw talks Stanford, player benefits and his NFL intrigue | FOX Sports on MSN

My favorite line:

Q: Can you see yourself going back and taking what you've learned here and applying it?
No time soon. Hopefully, years and years and years from now, people will look back at this era of Stanford football and see it as truly special. And I don't want this era to end. I want it to continue. I definitely want to be part of it.


To do what we've done and with the academic parameters we have, the types of kids we have -- six or seven years ago, people said this couldn't be done at a place like Stanford. To see us be able to do this year after year, play great football with a 100 percent graduation rate, have guys move on to be able to do phenomenal things in and out of football, I think it's truly special.

 

[WizardHawk]

With 40+ bowl games aren't we already there? They need to start cutting bowl games, no adding more.

I was being sarcastic.

I'd rather see them drop to 20 to 25 at most, but that's me.

 

[WizardHawk]

So 3 Oregon players got cut from the team over those r*pe allegations and it's being reported that the girl in question admitted having consensual sex with two of them the next day? Something fishy there. But losing 3 kids off that basketball team is going to suck for them next year.

 

[4down20]

And along comes 4d20 to prove my point. Funny thing is, 4d20 is by far the most butthurt member of college footballs most butthurt fanbase and he's calling others butthurt. The irony is just too much fun!!

It's not my fault you can't accept the reality about the strength of teams/conferences.