The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[trojanfan12]

If you ever pull your head out of your ass and realize that 3 or 4 games is only a small % of the total schedule and that the SEC has the toughest schedules in the country year after year, let me know.

But of course, you must focus on the bottom part of the schedule and pretend as if all conferences are equal because you ain't got shit to say otherwise.

The fact is that the SEC schedules like pansies. Your teams have an artificially inflated SOS because of it.

As for the SEC being the toughest conference in the country, USC has played SEC teams 4 times in the BCS era. Let's just say we are unimpressed.

Bottom line, the SEC is no different than any other conference. You have your good to very good teams, your middle of the road teams and your dregs.

No matter what your Mommies tell you, you guys really aren't all that special.

 

[trojanfan12]

Don't forget the majority of the Pac12.

The SEC scheduling 55 more FCS schools than the PAC, tells a different story.

Btw, Alabama schedules more FCS schools in one season than USC and UCLA have combined in their entire existence.

Bear Bryant must look down at the shit and go !!

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Haven't you heard? It's okay for the supposed "strongest conference in the country" to schedule like pansies because the ACC does it too and has scheduled 7 more FCS teams than the "strongest conference in the country".

Never mind that the "strongest conference in the country" has scheduled 34 more FCS teams than the B1G which has 3rd most and an astounding 55 more FCS opponents than the PAC.

This statement by you shows its not about fairness and level playing field, its about the SEC to you. If it was about fairness you would feel the same way torwds the ACC as they employ the same model that you "claim" is your reason for stalking the SEC. Funny how I never see very many if any SEC fans talk about any of the garbage you posted , just fans of other teams. Want fairness in the NCAA, place the blame everywhere it should be placed and not on one conference who you all argue iis not all that great to begin with. Either they are the ruling body and trendsetter of the NCAA or every conference with a similar model in conference is to blame also and according to you and others like you, the SEC is not as great as we "fans" supposedly think it is.

 

[yeodonie]

Oregon has a weaker schedule than 12 of the 14 SEC teams.

Defend that.

Based on the artificial rankings bump the SEC gets by only having 8 conf games? Neato.

Good game good effort

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Okay, the ACC and the SEC schedule like pansies!!

Happy now?

Sarcasm and appeasement. I thought you were above that trollish behavior, guess not

 

[outofyourmind]

Has this tuned into an 'Alabama against the World' thread again.?

 

[4down20]

The fact is that the SEC schedules like pansies. Your teams have an artificially inflated SOS because of it.

As for the SEC being the toughest conference in the country, USC has played SEC teams 4 times in the BCS era. Let's just say we are unimpressed.

Bottom line, the SEC is no different than any other conference. You have your good to very good teams, your middle of the road teams and your dregs.

No matter what you Mommies tell you, you guys really aren't all that special.

It's not artificially inflated SoS at all. Good SoS formulas don't even use win% as a factor.

It's true that there is a mixed bag of teams in the SEC, but there is overall a higher quality of teams. That's just the fact and everyone other than fans who can't face reality knows it. It hasn't always been that way, won't always be that way, but right now it is that way.

Nobody gives a crap about you playing Arkansas.

And I would say 7 national championships in the past 8 years ain't got shit to do with anything mommy says. Cry about SoS all you want, but at the end of the year the other conferences have been giving a chance to get it done on the field and they couldn't. Funny enough, the team that finally did it had a schedule weaker than any in probably BCS history.

But that's why everyone has to bitch about the SEC. If the other conferences could get it done on the field, nobody would care. Just like nobody really cared about the ACC doing the exact same things.

 

[trojanfan12]

It ain't got shit to do with fairness. It's just people who want to hate on the SEC because they are jealous bitches whose teams can't do shit on the field to stop it.

They want the SEC to play each other more often because it's the only way they can hope to not get a SEC team in the championship and then their shitty teams might actually have a chance at winning one again someday.

Ah, the good ol' "you're just jealous" response. This response is in the SEC fanboy playbook in the section on "What to do when you have run out of ways to defend scheduling like pansies".

God forbid there should actually be a level playing field where teams who are competing for the same prize have to travel basically the same path to get there.

 

[4down20]

Based on the artificial rankings bump the SEC gets by only having 8 conf games? Neato.

Good game good effort

Based on every SoS measurement you can find.

 

[4down20]

Ah, the good ol' "you're just jealous" response. This response is in the SEC fanboy playbook in the section on "What to do when you have run out of ways to defend scheduling like pansies".

God forbid there should actually be a level playing field where teams who are competing for the same prize have to travel basically the same path to get there.

Yes, lets get a level playing field then.

How about the Pac12 quits being full of a bunch of shitty teams and gets some real strength in it. How about we start there if you are so concerned about a level playing field.

Or you can keep on crying because the SEC isn't beating the SEC teams for you, since the Pac12 can't do it on the field.

 

[yeodonie]

Based on every SoS measurement you can find.

Do you not get that 6 of the P12 teams get an extra loss which drops them in ranking thus lowering the SoS? This is why the 8 game schedule rubs wrong.

The P12 ought to just say F it and drop to 7 and see what happens

 

[4down20]

Do you not get that 6 of the P12 teams get an extra loss which drops them in ranking thus lowering the SoS? This is why the 8 game schedule rubs wrong.

The P12 ought to just say F it and drop to 7 and see what happens

Do you not get that win% is the worst way to measure SoS to begin with and that pretty much nobody with a clue actually uses it?

Did you even notice that even in a conference itself, the SoS changes dramatically from team to team? So maybe, just maybe, potentially 7 losses ain't such a big deal at the end of the day.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

The SEC scheduling 55 more FCS schools than the PAC, tells a different story.

Btw, Alabama schedules more FCS schools in one season than USC and UCLA have combined in their entire existence.

Bear Bryant must look down at the shit and go !!

All this means what really, are you so impressed with USC and its scheduling that you think they are the greatest or what? Personally I look at the overall record that Alabama has over the PAC teams and wonder what you're so impressed with.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Do you not get that 6 of the P12 teams get an extra loss which drops them in ranking thus lowering the SoS? This is why the 8 game schedule rubs wrong.

The P12 ought to just say F it and drop to 7 and see what happens

Which is my point about if you wanted to be fair in your judgement, show the same dislike for the aCC and its 8 game schedule that was just voted on, but no its open field day on Alabama and the SEC and hardly a word said about the ACC. This tells all anyone that is objective needs to know, its not about fair, its about the SEC in general.

 

[yeodonie]

Do you not get that win% is the worst way to measure SoS to begin with and that pretty much nobody with a clue actually uses it?

Did you even notice that even in a conference itself, the SoS changes dramatically from team to team? So maybe, just maybe, potentially 7 losses ain't such a big deal at the end of the day.

Who said anything about win percentage. It's the artificial rankings you enjoy that give a higher SoS overall. The top teams in the conf will always have lower because they don't enjoy the benefit of playing themselves.

Are you new to this?

 

[trojanfan12]

It's not artificially inflated SoS at all. Good SoS formulas don't even use win% as a factor.

It is absolutely artificially inflated. Wins are a huge part of SOS. You don't get the same credit beating a 4 win team as a 7 or 8 win team.

It's true that there is a mixed bag of teams in the SEC, but there is overall a higher quality of teams. That's just the fact and everyone other than fans who can't face reality knows it. It hasn't always been that way, won't always be that way, but right now it is that way.

Sorry, not buying it. The SEC is no different than any other conference except to fanboys.


Nobody gives a crap about you playing Arkansas.

Yeah, because we kicked the shit out of them and Auburn too. Of course, if USC has lost those games, you'd all give a crap.


And I would say 7 national championships in the past 8 years ain't got shit to do with anything mommy says. Cry about SoS all you want, but at the end of the year the other conferences have been giving a chance to get it done on the field and they couldn't. Funny enough, the team that finally did it had a schedule weaker than any in probably BCS history.

The artificially inflated SOS is directly responsible for at least 3 SEC teams even being in the NCG.


But that's why everyone has to bitch about the SEC. If the other conferences could get it done on the field, nobody would care. Just like nobody really cared about the ACC doing the exact same things.

As I've pointed out, the ACC and it's fans don't run around pounding their chests and putting down other conferences while scheduling like pansies.

 

[4down20]

Who said anything about win percentage. It's the artificial rankings you enjoy that give a higher SoS overall. The top teams in the conf will always have lower because they don't enjoy the benefit of playing themselves.

Are you new to this?

I don't use win% and I don't use ranking #s in my formula. I still have the SEC SoS being worlds ahead. It's specifically done to weed out any kind of advantages that you are talking about.

And the top teams do play each other, so not sure what you are going on about there. The SEC West alone has Alabama, LSU and Auburn in it. Arkansas was top10 until Petrino got caught with some ass on the back of his mopad, and they were west too.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Who said anything about win percentage. It's the artificial rankings you enjoy that give a higher SoS overall. The top teams in the conf will always have lower because they don't enjoy the benefit of playing themselves.

Are you new to this?

Feel the same way about the ACC? if not then go ahead and say what you really mean, that you feel the SEC is Gaming the system and they are the trendsetters for the NCAA and the rule makers for the NCAA. I just want one of you to say this, its what you mean, but you're all too blinded to see it.

 

[yeodonie]

Feel the same way about the ACC? if not then go ahead and say what you really mean, that you feel the SEC is Gaming the system and they are the trendsetters for the NCAA and the rule makers for the NCAA. I just want one of you to say this, its what you mean, but you're all too blinded to see it.

I do. I called them pussies too.

 

[4down20]

I do. I called them pussies too.

Do you call Oregon pussies for their schedule?