The PAC12 THREAD v.2

[WhiteMamba]

Cards will beat Seattle cya in playoffs and im not kidding.

Cant stay mad at the kid.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

And we love visitors. Specially you Texas folk. You, coda, and Stampede are 3 of my favs...

Thought it was cool when yall were giving the Huskies the what for today.

Yea well I might have topped it tonight with TF12. He won't admit it but the jimmies were rustling deep inside him.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Charlie Strong goes to Seattle..... I burn things.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

I just think Ucla has a louzy fan base and home crowd, beaten down stadium. Its not that attractive as it use to be but its still LA.

 

[Olyduck]

Ranking the Pac-12 coaching jobs - Pac-12 Blog - ESPN

Does Ted Miller wear purple glasses?

1. Written before the 2012 season.
2. Ted Miller former columnist for Seattle Post-Intelligencer so maybe

 

[WhiteMamba]

Yea well I might have topped it tonight with TF12. He won't admit it but the jimmies were rustling deep inside him.

His Southern Cal jimmies arent easily ruslted. But when they are it is because someone bad mouths their coaching choices and or coaches... Even Kiffin.

My first encounter @ cBS with TF12!! was in regards to Kiffin and he swooped in like a shining knight on a knoble steed to defend his honor.

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

When Mora leaves shoot a text to the players it happens so fast, send a text its easier.

 

[Olyduck]

Because he was the defensive coordinator assigned total control of the defense because Mike Sherman was the head coach and offensive coordinator who wanted no part in it?:no idea:

Wouldn't the buck stop with him? The defensive staff was even his guys.

yes but not his fault if his staff couldnt close
look at washington. Wilcox is the defensive coordinator but it is D line coach Tosh Lupoi that is considered one of the best recruiters

 

[WizardHawk]

Their history is also on par with each other UCLA has more football conference championships than UW(by 2). UW has more Rose bowl appearances and wins (by 2)

Did you see that link from Ted Miller on his rank of jobs? I can post more because I've seen many of those lists and UW is always listed higher. It isn't just blind homerism speaking here. There is no denying that UCLA doesn't spend nearly what UW does on football. Seattle always has been a football town. Period. We aren't a baseball town or basketball town. We ARE football. UW knows this and gives that program whatever they want. Now it's true in the hedges era she tried to divert a lot of resources to women's athletics L) but even then James and others got what they asked for when they pushed for it.

UCLA is a basketball school first. Now not nearly as bad as Arizona, but still. And Stanford fans are funny people. Buddha here is a true football fan, but many look down on all athletics and those who support it.

 

[Olyduck]

But see my list of names and people I would look at are different than that of people who actually make these decisions. I am not hung up on having ties to the school or being a (school name here) man

 

[WizardHawk]

1. Written before the 2012 season.
2. Ted Miller former columnist for Seattle Post-Intelligencer so maybe

2012 isn't 1991 and he hasn't been in Seattle for a long time. He is an Arizona native isn't he? He doesn't typically over hype UW so I wouldn't call him a seattle homer.

 

[Olyduck]

Did you see that link from Ted Miller on his rank of jobs? I can post more because I've seen many of those lists and UW is always listed higher. It isn't just blind homerism speaking here. There is no denying that UCLA doesn't spend nearly what UW does on football. Seattle always has been a football town. Period. We aren't a baseball town or basketball town. We ARE football. UW knows this and gives that program whatever they want. Now it's true in the hedges era she tried to divert a lot of resources to women's athletics L) but even then James and others got what they asked for when they pushed for it.

UCLA is a basketball school first. Now not nearly as bad as Arizona, but still. And Stanford fans are funny people. Buddha here is a true football fan, but many look down on all athletics and those who support it.

the one where he says lack of recent success knocks UCLA down before they went 9-5 and 9-3 and won the division last season? You dont think he would move them up a bit now?

 

[WizardHawk]

Morning links: UW?s Sarkisian among Pac-12?s highest-paid coaches | Husky Football Blog | Seattle Times
— Steve Sarkisian, Washington, $2,575,000 ($1,525,000).
— Kyle Whittingham, Utah, $2,427,100 ($740,000)
— Mike MacIntyre, Colorado, $2,403,500 ($1,500,000)
— Sonny Dykes, California, $2,394,000 ($304,000)
— Todd Graham, Arizona State, $2,303,020 ($3,159,000)
— Jim Mora, UCLA, $2,300,000 ($750,000)
— Mike Leach, Washington State, $2,250,000 ($625,000)
— Rich Rodriguez, Arizona, $2,150,000 ($610,000)
— Mark Helfrich, Oregon, $1,800,000 ($1,035,000)
— Mike Riley, Oregon State, $1,417,843 ($360,000)
— David Shaw, Stanford, —

Pretty sure coaches like the greenbacks as much as anyone else. It was reported that Sark got more than a 1 million a year raise going to USC so the pay race is accelerating and UW will no doubt follow suit.

 

[Olyduck]

the 3 teams not in bowls paying the most behind UW

 

[WizardHawk]

Well to be fair if you look at the bonuses Graham has the highest potential. But I do think it's funny that Colorado and Cal pay so much for so little. Their win per dollar ratio is crazy.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Morning links: UW?s Sarkisian among Pac-12?s highest-paid coaches | Husky Football Blog | Seattle Times
— Steve Sarkisian, Washington, $2,575,000 ($1,525,000).
— Kyle Whittingham, Utah, $2,427,100 ($740,000)
— Mike MacIntyre, Colorado, $2,403,500 ($1,500,000)
— Sonny Dykes, California, $2,394,000 ($304,000)
— Todd Graham, Arizona State, $2,303,020 ($3,159,000)
— Jim Mora, UCLA, $2,300,000 ($750,000)
— Mike Leach, Washington State, $2,250,000 ($625,000)
— Rich Rodriguez, Arizona, $2,150,000 ($610,000)
— Mark Helfrich, Oregon, $1,800,000 ($1,035,000)
— Mike Riley, Oregon State, $1,417,843 ($360,000)
— David Shaw, Stanford, —

Pretty sure coaches like the greenbacks as much as anyone else. It was reported that Sark got more than a 1 million a year raise going to USC so the pay race is accelerating and UW will no doubt follow suit.

That would rustle my jimmies if I were Helfrich.

10 wins for 1.8 and Dykes gets 2.4 for 1 win....

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Morning links: UW?s Sarkisian among Pac-12?s highest-paid coaches | Husky Football Blog | Seattle Times
— Steve Sarkisian, Washington, $2,575,000 ($1,525,000).
— Kyle Whittingham, Utah, $2,427,100 ($740,000)
— Mike MacIntyre, Colorado, $2,403,500 ($1,500,000)
— Sonny Dykes, California, $2,394,000 ($304,000)
— Todd Graham, Arizona State, $2,303,020 ($3,159,000)
— Jim Mora, UCLA, $2,300,000 ($750,000)
— Mike Leach, Washington State, $2,250,000 ($625,000)
— Rich Rodriguez, Arizona, $2,150,000 ($610,000)
— Mark Helfrich, Oregon, $1,800,000 ($1,035,000)
— Mike Riley, Oregon State, $1,417,843 ($360,000)
— David Shaw, Stanford, —

AND WHAT ABOUT THE MOST TENURED COACH IN THE PAC?

Christ half those guys and their salaries are bloated per/win....State better get the ball rolling and pony up a extra Mil/yr. for Mike.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

Well to be fair if you look at the bonuses Graham has the highest potential. But I do think it's funny that Colorado and Cal pay so much for so little. Their win per dollar ratio is crazy.

MacIntyre improved Colorado a lot in one season. That program was a complete dumpster fire of Washington 2008 proportions. He should get at least 5 years to get 8 wins right? Thats what I've been told all day by Pac 12 fans. He then can move on to Ohio St, Alabama, or Michigan. Correct?

 

[JahiiCarson_SqodGeneral]

Graham deserves another bonus all help pay! Hail Graham!

 

[seahawksfan234]

Mack has acted like a spoiled baby all year long. He has media personnel fired if they speak a negative word about the program. He shuts them out of the program where they have no choice but to fire them. These are former Texas players to and some that played under him. He constantly complains about the fans not supporting the team like we want to pay thousands of dollars to watch our team lose for the 4th year in a row when the players have the talent to win.

Mack admitted he went to sleep at the wheel back in 2009 and promised he was turning things around. He admitted he let recruiting stars drive his recruiting decisions. He refused to fire a defensive coordinator that had the worst defense in Texas history last season. Then turns around and fires him 2 games into the season. Greg Robinson of all people who sucked at Michigan has been able to turn the defense around to the point they only have given up around 350 yards a game under him and are first in the nation in sacks and tackles for loss since he took over. Thats how much talent the defense possesses. It just needed a semi competent person calling the shots and I'm not even sure Robinson would have been called that until now lol.

Mack said Texas would be good again this year and they aren't. 8-3 isn't good at Texas and he knows it. Not when you went 5-7, 8-5, and 9-4 the 3 years prior. Mack was given a chance to turn things around and he hired a terrible defensive coordinator who had never proven anything and then failed to correct his mistake. He was given a ton of free passes and now he needs to go and he will go. Whether he leaves on good terms or kicking and screaming out the door. It's his choice…

P.S. A big 12 title and BCS game could possibly buy him another year with the new AD but that isn't going to happen. Texas won't beat Baylor and also have Oklahoma St lose. Not with Case McCoy at QB.

Good post. I was unaware of most of this.

I do agree he does need to go. There is no excuse for the record he has had, it is UT. They still bring in top talent and he should be able to win with them.

I just hope he can go on good terms. Even though things have been rough lately he had an amazing stretch there at Texas. You have to wonder if his ego might get in the way though, then UT would have no choice but to fire him. Hopefully he is sensible and either retires or steps down. At least take a year off from coaching or something. It would be best for both parties.