THE PAC 12 THREAD v.3

[Not Neutral]

Yeah. Obviously there need to be rules and a governing body to enforce them. However, there also need to be limits, standards and guidelines with regard to that governing bodies ability to dole out punishment. The NCAA says they want to be able to treat each case individually, but the problem is that it has led to their decisions being so inconsistent that they appear to be completely arbitrary in nature.

There are rules, TF. It is painfully clear that they differ depending obviously on who has the political influence and who doesn't. And the NCAA does indeed treat each case individually; they do, they do, but not on circumstances of the incidents. Recent experience and common sense proves that.

 

[BeaverShaver]

Wow. Bringing up something that happened 25 fucking years ago and didn't involve the school or the coaching staff to justify Oregon's current player buying? Talk about beyond desperate.

Your seriously going to go there considering what Phil's recent acquisition, Vernon Adams, pulled? The day after he announces he's transferring to Nike U., the class act shows up at the EWU practice facilities decked out in brand new U of Oregon gear and shoes (Gee I wonder where he got that???!!!) and they proceeded to tell him to get the fuck out. What a class act.

here we go again...

before disrespecting your uncle, maybe you should take a look at what your team wears. also, you had six or seven kids visiting during your final home cfb game, guess what they were wearing? I will give you a hint, it was all purple and it wasn't under armour.

what a bunch of class acts...

 

[socaljim242]

here we go again...

before disrespecting your uncle, maybe you should take a look at what your team wears. also, you had six or seven kids visiting during your final home cfb game, guess what they were wearing? I will give you a hint, it was all purple and it wasn't under armour.

what a bunch of class acts...

You Oregon fans need to learn to how to separate the schools contracts to outfit the teams with uniforms and gear with Nike and Oregon /Uncle Phil who give you different costumes errrr uniforms for every single game and buys your school buildings and athletic facilities and players . USC is a Nike outfitted school and we don't have an uncle Phil. You do.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

You Oregon fans need to learn to how to separate the schools contracts to outfit the teams with uniforms and gear with Nike and Oregon /Uncle Phil who give you different costumes errrr uniforms for every single game and buys your school buildings and athletic facilities and players . USC is a Nike outfitted school and we don't have an uncle Phil. You do.

You have more Uncle Phils than Oregon has and still can't win the PAC South.

 

[socaljim242]

You have more Uncle Phils than Oregon has and still can't win the PAC South.

Wrong. USC has alumni and some with more money but none that dole out cash to the teams like Phil does at Oregon. He says wear this costume and your team complies. His fingerprints are all over the reach for players in other states. He's the reason you have your facilities. But thanks for the laugh. I'm pretty sure you're not that ignorant or blind.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Wrong. USC has alumni and some with more money but none that dole out cash to the teams like Phil does at Oregon. He says wear this costume and your team complies. His fingerprints are all over the reach for players in other states. He's the reason you have your facilities. But thanks for the laugh. I'm pretty sure you're not that ignorant or blind.

Guess you didn't understand.

 

[socaljim242]

Guess you didn't understand.

I guess you'd like pass over what Husky fan and I were saying because it's irrefutable that Oregon is Nikes bitch, but that's cool. Hang your conference champ banners I bet they are really nice. Hope you had fun while it lasted.

 

[Vitamike]

 

[BeaverShaver]

I guess you'd like pass over what Husky fan and I were saying because it's irrefutable that Oregon is Nikes bitch, but that's cool. Hang your conference champ banners I bet they are really nice. Hope you had fun while it lasted.

you should probably look into a few things before you shoot off your mouth. ever head of George Lucas? yeah, that guy that gave 110 million to usc? how about the guy that just gave 200 million? Steven Spielberg gives regularly, over 10 million last time. dr dre, yes dr dre gave 35 million. so does this make you hollywood's bitch?

at oregon we are lucky to have one who gives, at usc you have dozens, if not hundreds of millionaires. at last count, usc was 4th in annual fundraising. wanna guess who was first? Stanford. wanna guess who gave a shit load of money to Stanford? uncle Phil.

seriously, a fan of the school with the wealthiest alumni in the world, by far, wants to talk about donors. comical bruh

 

[BeaverShaver]

as long as we are talking money, did you know for 1500 dollars you can run down the tunnel on to the field at U$C? and for 750 dollars you can get a pregame picture with the $ong girls. of course these fees are donations to the school which makes them tax deductible.

college sports are a big business. it is comical to me when people bring money into the discussion when their program can't win on the field. husky fan has been doing it for years. but to hear a u$c fan talk about money, boy I think I've heard it all now. without donors, there would be nothing, not just on the field, but I'm the classroom as well.

now can we get back to football? or do you want to talk about u$c's current 6 billion dollar fundraiser for "academics"?

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Shaver -- see he doesn't get it.

 

[socaljim242]

Shaver -- see he doesn't get it.

What both of you dont realize is when a school has many or a group of donors is that there isn't onewith too much power. USC has the most billionaire alumni of any college in the US. Which means they don't have to bow down to Speilburg or any other single person like Oregon has to with Phil. You're his toy. You give me some story about paying to run out of the tunnel like it has anything to do with the subject of one person owening your program.
Looks like you and your buddy don't get it.

 

[trojanfan12]

you should probably look into a few things before you shoot off your mouth. ever head of George Lucas? yeah, that guy that gave 110 million to usc? how about the guy that just gave 200 million? Steven Spielberg gives regularly, over 10 million last time. dr dre, yes dr dre gave 35 million. so does this make you hollywood's bitch?

at oregon we are lucky to have one who gives, at usc you have dozens, if not hundreds of millionaires. at last count, usc was 4th in annual fundraising. wanna guess who was first? Stanford. wanna guess who gave a shit load of money to Stanford? uncle Phil.

seriously, a fan of the school with the wealthiest alumni in the world, by far, wants to talk about donors. comical bruh

While the above may be true, you missed SoCalJim's point. USC fans aren't on here bragging about facilities, all of the different uniform combinations and how much money folks have donated to the school.

Additionally, considering that both George Lucas and Steven Spielberg graduated from the USC School for Cinematic Arts, it's a pretty safe bet that at least some of the money went there rather than the football program.

 

[trojanfan12]

What both of you dont realize is when a school has many or a group of donors is that there isn't onewith too much power. USC has the most billionaire alumni of any college in the US. Which means they don't have to bow down to Speilburg or any other single person like Oregon has to with Phil. You're his toy. You give me some story about paying to run out of the tunnel like it has anything to do with the subject of one person owening your program.
Looks like you and your buddy don't get it.

But remember socal, they're just "poor lil ol' Oregon."

 

[socaljim242]

While the above may be true, you missed SoCalJim's point. USC fans aren't on here bragging about facilities, all of the different uniform combinations and how much money folks have donated to the school.

Additionally, considering that both George Lucas and Steven Spielberg graduated from the USC School for Cinematic Arts, it's a pretty safe bet that at least some of the money went there rather than the football program.

While the above may be true, you missed SoCalJim's point. USC fans aren't on here bragging about facilities, all of the different uniform combinations and how much money folks have donated to the school.

Additionally, considering that both George Lucas and Steven Spielberg graduated from the USC School for Cinematic Arts, it's a pretty safe bet that at least some of the money went there rather than the football program.

Lucas donation went to renovation of existing cinematic arts buildings ,construction of another building and an endowment to preserve them. Not to buy Texas running backs from Lamar and not to dress the football team like storm troopers.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

From an "un-biased" PAC school brudda...looks like SoCal Jim is getting "schooled-n-owned" by the duckie fans on this donor shit discussion - says the guy whose team is out-fitted with free Nike gear EVERY year (me)

 

[socaljim242]

From an "un-biased" PAC school brudda...looks like SoCal Jim is getting "schooled-n-owned" by the duckie fans on this donor shit discussion - says the guy whose team is out-fitted with free Nike gear EVERY year (me)

Yeah, right.lol

 

[Olyduck]

Oregon is like maybe 3rd in Nike's college contracts. some of what Oregon gets is from Nike. Some is from Phil. What Phil does with his money he made from Nike is his buisness. separated the two. Otherwise you are saying that any person spending any money they make is the same as the company they work for spending it. i dont know if my employer gets the same enjoyment out of drinking casinos and strippers I do when I spend my money i got working for them.

 

[BeaverShaver]

LOL at people who think that donations to specific departments truly stays in that department. These huge donations only help the institution spread the money around. 100 million to cinematics, arts etc really means that the school has the freedom to spend money how they wish. Of course they use the donor's money for what it is "intended" but it gives them the ability to spend elsewhere as well. Sort of like when you get a car allowance at work. Is the extra 500 per month really going to your car?

One more point regarding @socaljim242 's point about not "bowing" to anyone. It is fair to mention that in the last 5 years u$c has received over 200 million from one of the largest steel companies on the west coast (Herrick Corp). Interestingly enough, every new construction on campus will be built with this company's steel. Including sports facility upgrades. How interesting.

At Oregon we dont take for granted our Uncle Phil. Just remember that every school has donors, and these schools will always roll out the red carpet for them. As fans, we can choose to do the same, or we can live in ignorance, pointing the fingers at the "system" or throwing shade on other schools as if somehow we dont live in the same light.

 

[trojanfan12]

LOL at people who think that donations to specific departments truly stays in that department. These huge donations only help the institution spread the money around. 100 million to cinematics, arts etc really means that the school has the freedom to spend money how they wish. Of course they use the donor's money for what it is "intended" but it gives them the ability to spend elsewhere as well. Sort of like when you get a car allowance at work. Is the extra 500 per month really going to your car?

One more point regarding @socaljim242 's point about not "bowing" to anyone. It is fair to mention that in the last 5 years u$c has received over 200 million from one of the largest steel companies on the west coast (Herrick Corp). Interestingly enough, every new construction on campus will be built with this company's steel. Including sports facility upgrades. How interesting.

At Oregon we dont take for granted our Uncle Phil. Just remember that every school has donors, and these schools will always roll out the red carpet for them. As fans, we can choose to do the same, or we can live in ignorance, pointing the fingers at the "system" or throwing shade on other schools as if somehow we dont live in the same light.

Nice strawman you made there. Of course USC has major donors and of course those donors get the red carpet treatment. Also, of course a $100 million donation to the cinematic arts program or for a new building frees up an equal or close to it amount to be spent in other ways just like any other program. No one has claimed differently.

What is different is that you don't see USC fans or other teams fans on here bragging about it. You can talk about donations and how money is spent at other schools you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Ducks fans come off like the rich kid whose Daddy bought him an expensive sports car telling people "look at the car I just bought."