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Can anyone tell me what's the best website to buy a Giroux tee shirt??
 

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I always us fanatics.com for sports apparel shopping. They have a whole bunch of stuff for all sports.
 

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I am at a total loss for ideas at this point. The players refuse to play a whole game. Guys don't want to shoot so they hold the puck too long and then get the shot blocked or fire 10 feet wide. This team isn't very good but they should be better. Something has to give. We cant give the dead weight away and wont give young pieces away. That leaves the coach. If guys are giving there all and get beat by a better team, so be it. But to not play a full game cannot be acceptable. Time to rotate the benching's. Do something!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I don't have a good answer either. In my opinion the only guys that are playing well, and playing in the right role, are Mase, Giroux, and Voracek. The 2nd line is playing ok, and I like all 3 of them, but they really shouldn't be the 2nd line. they should be a 3rd line. the current third line has couturier and read who are ok defensively and would be well suited on a shutdown 4th line.

on defense, macdonald is a good 3rd pairing guy. Coburn is a good second paring guy. Streit is a good second pairing / top pp guy. MDZ is an ok 3rd pairing guy, probably a 6/7 swing guy when you need a PP qb. schenn doesn't even look like an NHL-er. Schultz is a 6-7 guy (who's played very well considering expectations). grossmann is a fine 3rd pairing guy.

problem is, the flyers have no cap space and very little trade value to make things better. the fact is they're just not that good of a hockey team and it's going to take time (contracts expiring, kids coming up) for them to get better. firing the coach, making a big splash trade, won't fix this team. only time will.

(might need a new coach eventually, I'm not sold on Berube, but I don't think you can tell due to the lack of talent on the roster)
 

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I am at a total loss for ideas at this point. The players refuse to play a whole game. Guys don't want to shoot so they hold the puck too long and then get the shot blocked or fire 10 feet wide. This team isn't very good but they should be better. Something has to give. We cant give the dead weight away and wont give young pieces away. That leaves the coach. If guys are giving there all and get beat by a better team, so be it. But to not play a full game cannot be acceptable. Time to rotate the benching's. Do something!!!!!!!!!!

We need to play better in the defensive end and the neutral zone and the offensive zone I wish I had a solution to those problems but I don't. We need to pray.
 

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I don't have a good answer either. In my opinion the only guys that are playing well, and playing in the right role, are Mase, Giroux, and Voracek. The 2nd line is playing ok, and I like all 3 of them, but they really shouldn't be the 2nd line. they should be a 3rd line. the current third line has couturier and read who are ok defensively and would be well suited on a shutdown 4th line.

on defense, macdonald is a good 3rd pairing guy. Coburn is a good second paring guy. Streit is a good second pairing / top pp guy. MDZ is an ok 3rd pairing guy, probably a 6/7 swing guy when you need a PP qb. schenn doesn't even look like an NHL-er. Schultz is a 6-7 guy (who's played very well considering expectations). grossmann is a fine 3rd pairing guy.

problem is, the flyers have no cap space and very little trade value to make things better. the fact is they're just not that good of a hockey team and it's going to take time (contracts expiring, kids coming up) for them to get better. firing the coach, making a big splash trade, won't fix this team. only time will.

(might need a new coach eventually, I'm not sold on Berube, but I don't think you can tell due to the lack of talent on the roster)

If Mase could take a shot and not give up a rebound once in a while I would put him in the category with Gee and Voracek. This problem he has doesn't help our already terrible defense and it keeps us floundering in our zone a lot of extra time that we shouldn't be there.

With that said we will take the 8th spot and be in the playoffs at years end.
 

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If Mase could take a shot and not give up a rebound once in a while I would put him in the category with Gee and Voracek. This problem he has doesn't help our already terrible defense and it keeps us floundering in our zone a lot of extra time that we shouldn't be there.

With that said we will take the 8th spot and be in the playoffs at years end.

I was texting my dad and brother this last night.

The Flyers are bad at:
1. Clearances (when under pressure)
2. Breakouts (with time)
3. Zone entries
4. Forecheck

Which really leaves situational offense and situational defense as the only 2 things left. Which, I don't think they're that bad at (see top 10 PP). Even defensively I think they're OK keeping other teams to the perimeter. The problem comes when they can't get out of the zone, which the never can on the first 3 tries. Guys get tired and desperate and then the clearance/breakout problem is exacerbated. Eventually they give up a goal.

Obviously I'm not a coach, and I never played organized hockey, but if I were Berube I would spend the entire practice on breakouts/clearances. Shoot the puck in, have the dmen start at the blueline and the forwards at the opposite blueline, and send 4-5 guys in on a forecheck. Practice getting the puck past that. Every. Single. Day. Once that get's better, work on zone entries.
 

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I was texting my dad and brother this last night.

The Flyers are bad at:
1. Clearances (when under pressure)
2. Breakouts (with time)
3. Zone entries
4. Forecheck


Which really leaves situational offense and situational defense as the only 2 things left. Which, I don't think they're that bad at (see top 10 PP). Even defensively I think they're OK keeping other teams to the perimeter. The problem comes when they can't get out of the zone, which the never can on the first 3 tries. Guys get tired and desperate and then the clearance/breakout problem is exacerbated. Eventually they give up a goal.

Obviously I'm not a coach, and I never played organized hockey, but if I were Berube I would spend the entire practice on breakouts/clearances. Shoot the puck in, have the dmen start at the blueline and the forwards at the opposite blueline, and send 4-5 guys in on a forecheck. Practice getting the puck past that. Every. Single. Day. Once that get's better, work on zone entries.

We continue to play dump and chase but we either don't dump it in deep enough or really chase for that matter. We have so many problems getting set up in the offensive zone. On the occasion that Jake or G carries the puck in we get set up. Otherwise the other team basically gets a free pass coming out.

On the other end, opponents are successful either carrying in the puck or dump and chase. When dumped our dmen send the puck up the boards to the opposing team and then they are set up. If they carry it in, we retreat and don't stand anybody up at the blue line. I remember seeing Schenn and Grossman do this at least 1 time this year and it actually worked.

Puck possession stats have to be heavy against us. When we have open lanes to shot we try to make the perfect pass, shoot wide or hold the puck so long the shot gets blocked. 1 and done is our offense. Our defensive zone is a shooting gallery. It just looks like other teams want it more than us.
 

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I was texting my dad and brother this last night.

The Flyers are bad at:
1. Clearances (when under pressure)
2. Breakouts (with time)
3. Zone entries
4. Forecheck

Which really leaves situational offense and situational defense as the only 2 things left. Which, I don't think they're that bad at (see top 10 PP). Even defensively I think they're OK keeping other teams to the perimeter. The problem comes when they can't get out of the zone, which the never can on the first 3 tries. Guys get tired and desperate and then the clearance/breakout problem is exacerbated. Eventually they give up a goal.

Obviously I'm not a coach, and I never played organized hockey, but if I were Berube I would spend the entire practice on breakouts/clearances. Shoot the puck in, have the dmen start at the blueline and the forwards at the opposite blueline, and send 4-5 guys in on a forecheck. Practice getting the puck past that. Every. Single. Day. Once that get's better, work on zone entries.

Flyers d-men(and forwards I guess) need to be harder on the puck when clearing it - don't try and make the pretty play, just rim it hard around the boards and get it out hard - I think the Flyers are trying to create offense in their own zone by making pretty plays instead of getting it out first and foremost

It just seems like the Flyers don't have a lot of speed going towards the puck, maybe that's due to having too many long shifts and not being able to roll four lines in that regard - they need to be quicker to the puck
 

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I don't have a good answer either. In my opinion the only guys that are playing well, and playing in the right role, are Mase, Giroux, and Voracek. The 2nd line is playing ok, and I like all 3 of them, but they really shouldn't be the 2nd line. they should be a 3rd line. the current third line has couturier and read who are ok defensively and would be well suited on a shutdown 4th line.

on defense, macdonald is a good 3rd pairing guy. Coburn is a good second paring guy. Streit is a good second pairing / top pp guy. MDZ is an ok 3rd pairing guy, probably a 6/7 swing guy when you need a PP qb. schenn doesn't even look like an NHL-er. Schultz is a 6-7 guy (who's played very well considering expectations). grossmann is a fine 3rd pairing guy.

problem is, the flyers have no cap space and very little trade value to make things better. the fact is they're just not that good of a hockey team and it's going to take time (contracts expiring, kids coming up) for them to get better. firing the coach, making a big splash trade, won't fix this team. only time will.

(might need a new coach eventually, I'm not sold on Berube, but I don't think you can tell due to the lack of talent on the roster)

I was saying this before but with Craig Berube, just because he isn't THE problem doesn't mean he's part of the problem - I think there are a lot of coaches who could do better with this team - there are little things that other coaches could teach this team to be better at - this is largely the same team they had last season besides Kimmo and Scott Hartnell being gone - yes those guys played in big roles but there's no reason that certain guys can't take a bit of a step up - also, some of the problems this team has should be fixable and Chief isn't fixing them - they can be harder on the puck, they can help theirselves by having shorter shifts and just have more puck possession - it doesn't take a whole lot of work to be good in that department - you just need a coach who can hammer the point home and get the players to do those things

There's no doubt this team is flawed and will be for the time being but look at some of the teams they're competing with in the division and tell me how they can't compete with them when you have two superstar forwards, another 2-3 very solid forwards, a solid PP d-man and a top 12 or so goaltender?
 

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I was texting my dad and brother this last night.

The Flyers are bad at:
1. Clearances (when under pressure)
2. Breakouts (with time)
3. Zone entries
4. Forecheck

Seems to me the first 3 all stem from having inadequate personnel on D. Even the 4th one relies on having confidence in the back end in order to be aggressive in the opposing zone. The fact is the forwards didn't suddenly lose talent - they just aren't being put in positions to be effective on a consistent enough basis.
 
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How could Read and Couts look so good this game and look so bad the rest of the season. If we had them play like that for the rest of the season it can get interesting.
 

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How could Read and Couts look so good this game and look so bad the rest of the season. If we had them play like that for the rest of the season it can get interesting.

If the 3rd line gets something, anything, going we will have 3 real lines to role out with the 4th being a checking line. We cant have 2 offensive lines and 2 checking lines. It just doesn't work.
 

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As bad as we have been, we are not that far out of a playoff spot and as we understand, anything cap happen as long as you get in. Last night has to be called a good defensive effort. When reviewing the box score, the minutes of the dmen seem to be better spread out. The high was 23 (Streit) and I believe the low was about 17 (Schenn). A Mac was 18 and not 23. Since we have at least 4 3rd pairing guys, its best to keep the minutes spread out. This is our only hope (Other than Kimmo being cleared to come back).
 

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As bad as we have been, we are not that far out of a playoff spot and as we understand, anything cap happen as long as you get in. Last night has to be called a good defensive effort. When reviewing the box score, the minutes of the dmen seem to be better spread out. The high was 23 (Streit) and I believe the low was about 17 (Schenn). A Mac was 18 and not 23. Since we have at least 4 3rd pairing guys, its best to keep the minutes spread out. This is our only hope (Other than Kimmo being cleared to come back).

I think Schenn playing made a world of difference. He isn't great but any stretch but he was steady. If we can only score 4 goals per game on most nights we can still win.
 

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If the 3rd line gets something, anything, going we will have 3 real lines to role out with the 4th being a checking line. We cant have 2 offensive lines and 2 checking lines. It just doesn't work.

One game at a time and we sneak into the 8th spot.
 

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After today, I'm now 4 for 4 attending games...so this begs the question...who wants to fund my attendanced to the remaining home games? That includes parking.
 

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Maybe they should bring Brandon Manning up if they can, he's beasting in the AHL right now. Otherwise, Nick Cousins is doing pretty good, so is Robert Hagg. Think any of those guys could see some ice time for the Flyers this season?
 

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It's just BS'ing and not an actual rumor but I'd like this - it'd give the Flyers two solid wingers who would give them more depth
 
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