The more. I see the more I like

[SoCalWizFan]

Clearly you want me to list a few guys that you can immediately dismiss, but what the hell, for shits and giggles, my list. (order does not denote my preference )

1. Connor Cook, Note the Michigan State connection

2. Dak Prescott, already better than Colt and would have been a threat to supplant KC in a season or two.

3. Cardale Jones, pretty much what we got with Sudfield, but I give an edge to because of the program he came from and his experience on a national championship stage...so Meh!

4. Cody Kessler, went in the 3rd but he's a KC clone

5. Kevin Hogan dude came from the same program that produced A. Luck and at times looked like him

Dak Prescott is already better than McCoy? Based on what? & a threat to supplant KC? You must have a huge shrine to RG3 in your living room. Your hatred for Cousins knows no end. Why was this sure thing drafted so low?

Get real. Prescott played well (& inconsistent) in the SEC. Remember this is the same conference where Johnny Football & Tebow thrived & won Heismanns (& both were incorrectly drafted in the 1st rd). How are their NFL careers going rt now? Thank God that you don't run this team. You would have retained RG3 & followed it up w/ a bunch of other questionable moves.

I do like your posts for one reason - you make me appreciate SM ever more. Thanks.

 

[redskinsfan]

I don't agree with Stymietee's comments.

Colt McCoy is almost a perfect backup: he is good enough to win a few games, but doesn't realistically believe he should/is a first-team starter in the NFL. He may not have a cannon of an arm, but he plays with moxie, has some escapability, is understands where the pressure is coming from, and can audible himself out of trouble.

The reason the cowboys were fucked last season is because they had truly awful backup qbs on their roster, no legitimate running threats, and a hobbled/gimpy Dez Bryant who broke his foot in week 1.

To be perfectly honest, if any team is down to their third qb, their season is pretty much fucked to begin with. There is literally no reason whatsoever to draft a qb higher than where the redskins drafted Sudfield.

Colt is the ideal backup here. By "ideal," I mean someone who can keep us afloat in case Cuz misses three games or so. If he has to sub in for, say, 10 games, we're screwed. That's why a backup is a backup.

 

[redskinsfan]

Dak Prescott is already better than McCoy? Based on what? & a threat to supplant KC? You must have a huge shrine to RG3 in your living room. Your hatred for Cousins knows no end. Why was this sure thing drafted so low?

Get real. Prescott played well (& inconsistent) in the SEC. Remember this is the same conference where Johnny Football & Tebow thrived & won Heismanns (& both were incorrectly drafted in the 1st rd). How are their NFL careers going rt now? Thank God that you don't run this team. You would have retained RG3 & followed it up w/ a bunch of other questionable moves.

I do like your posts for one reason - you make me appreciate SM ever more. Thanks.

Wow, did someone actually say Prescott was already better than Colt? LOL. Prescott operated from a spread offense and never took snaps under center. Sound familiar?

 

[redskinsfan]

If Kirk is worthy of 20+ million after this season then paying kirk 20+ million will not be the problem with our team.

And what does "worthy" mean? You start with how the market has set rates for QBs. And one place to look -- as opposed to start -- is Brock Osweiler's four-year, $72M ($18 AAV) deal, which features $37M in guaranteed cash. Osweiler started in all of seven games, some of which weren't vituoso performances by him and others which were buoyed by the superlative talent around Os. View through the prism of Osweiler's contract and the $20M tag he got this year, I can't see why Cuz wouldn't start with something like a $19M AAV. While that may seem more than he's "worth," Osweiler's deal has changed the dynamics of Cuz's negotiations with the team. In addition, the Redskins will have more than enough cap space next year to accommodate a bloated deal he can demand. You can bet that Cuz's camp knows that all too well.

 

[redskinsfan]

As for Sudfeld, the Redskins are already impressed by him. He's a big guy -- 6'6", 237 pounds and can move well -- and had some good numbers at an FBS school. Does Sudfeld ring any bells? Yeah, that Carson Wentz guy. The only difference? Sudfeld played in a Division I program. In making this comparison, a lot of it is tongue-in-cheek. But you can't resist making it anyways.

Redskins excited about Nate Sudfeld's potential

One more thing about Wentz --> Brock Jensen. He's the guy that preceded Wentz and lead NDSU to three consecutive national titles. Jensen has comparable measurables to Wentz and it makes you wonder how these guys differ in any substantial degree. But Wentz isn't our problem, and he's not someone we broke the bank to obtain.

 

[ehb5]

And what does "worthy" mean? You start with how the market has set rates for QBs. And one place to look -- as opposed to start -- is Brock Osweiler's four-year, $72M ($18 AAV) deal, which features $37M in guaranteed cash. Osweiler started in all of seven games, some of which weren't vituoso performances by him and others which were buoyed by the superlative talent around Os. View through the prism of Osweiler's contract and the $20M tag he got this year, I can't see why Cuz wouldn't start with something like a $19M AAV. While that may seem more than he's "worth," Osweiler's deal has changed the dynamics of Cuz's negotiations with the team. In addition, the Redskins will have more than enough cap space next year to accommodate a bloated deal he can demand. You can bet that Cuz's camp knows that all too well.

If Kirk puts up numbers like he did the second half of the year and erases doubts about his ability to carry this team at qb we can pay him just about anything. If cousins has like 3500 yards 25 TDs and 15 ints and gets carried to an 8-8 finish by a loaded receiving corps he's not worth 20 million, regardless of whether some team would give it to him or not. Osweiler for example is not worth his contract at all. Maybe he'll prove me wrong but paying him 18 million a year because he's a "starting qb" and starting qbs get paid is stupid.

 

[ehb5]

As for Sudfeld, the Redskins are already impressed by him. He's a big guy -- 6'6", 237 pounds and can move well -- and had some good numbers at an FBS school. Does Sudfeld ring any bells? Yeah, that Carson Wentz guy. The only difference? Sudfeld played in a Division I program. In making this comparison, a lot of it is tongue-in-cheek. But you can't resist making it anyways.

Redskins excited about Nate Sudfeld's potential

One more thing about Wentz --> Brock Jensen. He's the guy that preceded Wentz and lead NDSU to three consecutive national titles. Jensen has comparable measurables to Wentz and it makes you wonder how these guys differ in any substantial degree. But Wentz isn't our problem, and he's not someone we broke the bank to obtain.

Interestingly somebody I follow on Twitter (and who's football opinion I respect) said that subfield had a chance to be better than wentz. Although I think it had more to do with him (and plenty others) thinking wentz is awful.

 

[redskinsfan]

If Kirk puts up numbers like he did the second half of the year and erases doubts about his ability to carry this team at qb we can pay him just about anything. If cousins has like 3500 yards 25 TDs and 15 ints and gets carried to an 8-8 finish by a loaded receiving corps he's not worth 20 million, regardless of whether some team would give it to him or not. Osweiler for example is not worth his contract at all. Maybe he'll prove me wrong but paying him 18 million a year because he's a "starting qb" and starting qbs get paid is stupid.

Again, that all depends on your view of "worth." IMO, "worth" is, in large part, a function of what the market will bear. Unfortunately, the market can, at times, be completely irrational.

 

[Sportster 72]

When guys come out of college with accuracy issues, it could be as simple as poor footwork which can be fixed. He played in a pro style offense and most reports are that he reads the field well ... most times.

 

[redskinsfan]

Interestingly somebody I follow on Twitter (and who's football opinion I respect) said that subfield had a chance to be better than wentz. Although I think it had more to do with him (and plenty others) thinking wentz is awful.

Wouldn't that be a hoot? But we shall see how this all plays out. And I'm a believer that Wentz will bust. The Eagles were stupid not only for picking him, but giving all that jack to get him.

 

[ehb5]

Again, that all depends on your view of "worth." IMO, "worth" is, in large part, a function of what the market will bear. Unfortunately, the market can, at times, be completely irrational.

Well that's the thing. Maybe the market is right. But it might also be wrong. I think some on here put too much faith in that whatever the market price is will be fair. That's silly. Price will not always equal value.

 

[redskinsfan]

Well that's the thing. Maybe the market is right. But it might also be wrong. I think some on here put too much faith in that whatever the market price is will be fair. That's silly. Price will not always equal value.

If that's what your definition of "worth" and "value" is, you might be right. The reality, however, is market economics. For instance, diamonds are pretty cheap because there's actually plenty of them. However, because the initial sellers embargo them, the limited supply then causes them to skyrocket in price. Just saying.

 

[dcrising]

Wow, did someone actually say Prescott was already better than Colt? LOL. Prescott operated from a spread offense and never took snaps under center. Sound familiar?

yep sure does. I can't believe there's 5 pages dedicated to a 6th rd QB to be honest.

 

[arbusman1]

yep sure does. I can't believe there's 5 pages dedicated to a 6th rd QB to be honest.

but the more skinsdad sees the more he likes same with that practice squader wearing a redskins jersey and the beat up pickup with a redskins flag lol

god forbid anyone question su'a cravens athleticism though....

 

[dcrising]

but the more skinsdad sees the more he likes same with that practice squader wearing a redskins jersey and the beat up pickup with a redskins flag lol

god forbid anyone question su'a cravens athleticism though....

I'm not going to pile on Skinsdad. i remember local dc fans riding colt brennan's jock when he was lighting up 4th and 5th string players and fans were annointing him the savior in waiting almost 10 years ago.

Let's put this in perspective:

He's a 6th rd pick. he's not expected to do much in the short term. If GMSM hits on this pick its most likely because he's flipping sudfeld somewhere down the road for a 2nd or 3rd rd pick ala mark brunnell, brett favre, and houston's former QB et al.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

but the more skinsdad sees the more he likes same with that practice squader wearing a redskins jersey and the beat up pickup with a redskins flag lol

god forbid anyone question su'a cravens athleticism though....

Yep - keep hanging on to that while just about every NFL analyst praised the pick. I guess you know better & simply want the Redskins to draft these combine phenoms. God forbid that they actually select someone who is you know a football player. According to your logic guys like Brady, Rice and E. Smith should have never taken the field. It's all about their 40 time & bench press reps - got it.

You & a few others need to keep badmouthing SM non-stop - it is good luck & you can keep bitching while the team gets better. HTTR

 

[skinsdad62]

Interestingly somebody I follow on Twitter (and who's football opinion I respect) said that subfield had a chance to be better than wentz. Although I think it had more to do with him (and plenty others) thinking wentz is awful.

i read that on twitter too

 

[redskinsfan]

i read that on twitter too

Do tell. Names, dates, etc.

 

[skinsdad62]

but the more skinsdad sees the more he likes same with that practice squader wearing a redskins jersey and the beat up pickup with a redskins flag lol

god forbid anyone question su'a cravens athleticism though....

oh jeez is there anything else to talk about on this board . yeah he is a 6th rounder , and yes he is a long shot but what would you rather talk about the weather in tahiti ?

 

[skinsdad62]

Do tell. Names, dates, etc.

daniel jeramiah tweeted that i believe and it has been retweeted quite a bit i am think wed, thursday or friday of last week because i was at work and i scroll twitter on break for skins news