The GOAT

[Mike A. S.]

I think there is no question as this point that Brady is the GOAT. But let's get a poll going to see what everyone thinks.

 

[beardown07]

As much as I hate to admit it, the rings don't lie.


In an era when FA has all but eliminated dynasties, and the turnover in roster is inevitable, Brady has done what no other has.

 

[beardown07]

With that said, Seattle and Atlanta outright refused to beat the Pats. No other way to slice it. Run the GD ball and they win.

No matter how great you are, a little bit of luck is always needed.

 

[soxfan1468927]

With that said, Seattle and Atlanta outright refused to beat the Pats. No other way to slice it. Run the GD ball and they win.

No matter how great you are, a little bit of luck is always needed.

Yup and I'd say if you look at the full span of his career, he's been unlucky as much as lucky.

Could have won in 2006, 2007, 2011, 2015; and could have lost in 2001, 2003, 2014, and 2016.

 

[sonnyblack65]

With that said, Seattle and Atlanta outright refused to beat the Pats. No other way to slice it. Run the GD ball and they win.

No matter how great you are, a little bit of luck is always needed.

Yes

 

[Vegas]

If I had to play one football game for everything I owned, I'd take Bart Starr as my QB. He like Brady has 5 rings, but has a much better playoff record at 9-1. He played his entire career before the rule changes of 1978 that greatly inflated passer ratings but still has the best playoff passer rating ever. 38 points higher than Johnny Unitas BTW.

 

[sonnyblack65]

If I had to play one football game for everything I owned, I'd take Bart Starr as my QB. He like Brady has 5 rings, but has a much better playoff record at 9-1. He played his entire career before the rule changes of 1978 that greatly inflated passer ratings but still has the best playoff passer rating ever. 38 points higher than Johnny Unitas BTW.

Love Bart Starr

 

[Mondo Jay]

Brady is da man.

 

[RP-29]

It depends on your criteria for GOAT.

My criteria differs from many. I don't look at "accomplishment" as the be-all end-all. Statistics and wins are just part of the equation for me. Football is a team sport and I view [especially] wins with less regard than most when determining GOAT.

Last night - and in every Superbowl Tom Brady has ever played in - it could easily be argued that Alex Smith could have and would have done everything Tom Brady did. Brady didn't really make any spectacular plays last night - he just dinked and dunked his way to victory - which is his M.O. and how his offensive system is built.

Here's a devil's advocate 2-pack of questions for you: Aside from his "accomplishments", what is awe-inspiring about Tom Brady's quarterback play? What are his greatest quarterbacking attributes?

 

[soxfan1468927]

It depends on your criteria for GOAT.

My criteria differs from many. I don't look at "accomplishment" as the be-all end-all. Statistics and wins are just part of the equation for me. Football is a team sport and I view [especially] wins with less regard than most when determining GOAT.

Last night - and in every Superbowl Tom Brady has ever played in - it could easily be argued that Alex Smith could have and would have done everything Tom Brady did. Brady didn't really make any spectacular plays last night - he just dinked and dunked his way to victory - which is his M.O. and how his offensive system is built.

Here's a devil's advocate 2-pack of questions for you: Aside from his "accomplishments", what is awe-inspiring about Tom Brady's quarterback play? What are his greatest quarterbacking attributes?

 

[soxfan1468927]

It depends on your criteria for GOAT.

My criteria differs from many. I don't look at "accomplishment" as the be-all end-all. Statistics and wins are just part of the equation for me. Football is a team sport and I view [especially] wins with less regard than most when determining GOAT.

Last night - and in every Superbowl Tom Brady has ever played in - it could easily be argued that Alex Smith could have and would have done everything Tom Brady did. Brady didn't really make any spectacular plays last night - he just dinked and dunked his way to victory - which is his M.O. and how his offensive system is built.

Here's a devil's advocate 2-pack of questions for you: Aside from his "accomplishments", what is awe-inspiring about Tom Brady's quarterback play? What are his greatest quarterbacking attributes?

To answer your last question, his accuracy, decision-making, reads, and pocket awareness.

 

[soxfan1468927]

It depends on your criteria for GOAT.

My criteria differs from many. I don't look at "accomplishment" as the be-all end-all. Statistics and wins are just part of the equation for me. Football is a team sport and I view [especially] wins with less regard than most when determining GOAT.

Last night - and in every Superbowl Tom Brady has ever played in - it could easily be argued that Alex Smith could have and would have done everything Tom Brady did. Brady didn't really make any spectacular plays last night - he just dinked and dunked his way to victory - which is his M.O. and how his offensive system is built.

Here's a devil's advocate 2-pack of questions for you: Aside from his "accomplishments", what is awe-inspiring about Tom Brady's quarterback play? What are his greatest quarterbacking attributes?

Also, this idea that he dinks and dunks has no basis in fact. Aaron Rodgers gets more YAC per catch than Brady. Would you say he dinks and dunks?

 

[TP76]

If I had to play one football game for everything I owned, I'd take Bart Starr as my QB. He like Brady has 5 rings, but has a much better playoff record at 9-1. He played his entire career before the rule changes of 1978 that greatly inflated passer ratings but still has the best playoff passer rating ever. 38 points higher than Johnny Unitas BTW.

Bart Starr - good post, extremely under-rated

 

[Dude]

Stop with the farm animal comparisons, it's not healthy.

 

[Dude]

Tom Brady is the BOAR
Best Offensive Asisine Redux.

 

[williewilliejuan]

It depends on your criteria for GOAT.

My criteria differs from many. I don't look at "accomplishment" as the be-all end-all. Statistics and wins are just part of the equation for me. Football is a team sport and I view [especially] wins with less regard than most when determining GOAT.

Last night - and in every Superbowl Tom Brady has ever played in - it could easily be argued that Alex Smith could have and would have done everything Tom Brady did. Brady didn't really make any spectacular plays last night - he just dinked and dunked his way to victory - which is his M.O. and how his offensive system is built.

Here's a devil's advocate 2-pack of questions for you: Aside from his "accomplishments", what is awe-inspiring about Tom Brady's quarterback play? What are his greatest quarterbacking attributes?

You're kidding, right?

Brady was likely the only QB who could have done that. Maybe in history and certainly of those playing today. Every time they needed a play in the fourth quarter, he made it. Zero chance Alex Smith would have made half of them.

 

[RP-29]

To answer your last question, his accuracy, decision-making, reads, and pocket awareness.

His accuracy wasn't really all that good last night. I thought Matt Ryan was the much more accurate passer of the two. Brady rarely throws the ball more than 10 yards downfield. I think his accuracy is a bit overrated relative to other elite quarterbacks past and present.

I agree that his decision-making is one of his best attributes. Taking what the defense gives him is how he wins.

Reads are strong, but I think he takes the easy underneath stuff a little too quickly and often - which is actually why the Pats got behind by so much last night in the first place.

Pocket awareness is definitely great. Right up there with all of the elitests.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It depends on your criteria for GOAT.

My criteria differs from many. I don't look at "accomplishment" as the be-all end-all. Statistics and wins are just part of the equation for me. Football is a team sport and I view [especially] wins with less regard than most when determining GOAT.

Last night - and in every Superbowl Tom Brady has ever played in - it could easily be argued that Alex Smith could have and would have done everything Tom Brady did. Brady didn't really make any spectacular plays last night - he just dinked and dunked his way to victory - which is his M.O. and how his offensive system is built.

Here's a devil's advocate 2-pack of questions for you: Aside from his "accomplishments", what is awe-inspiring about Tom Brady's quarterback play? What are his greatest quarterbacking attributes?

His poise. I couldn't believe how calm he looked. How much time he was taking during that historic come back. Now on the opposite side Ryan looked a little frantic stopping the clock at the end of the game. Different circumstances but none the less TB remained calm even after they scored the winner in OT. He kept his head in it until the TD was confirmed.

 

[Carnzo]

It depends on your criteria for GOAT.

My criteria differs from many. I don't look at "accomplishment" as the be-all end-all. Statistics and wins are just part of the equation for me. Football is a team sport and I view [especially] wins with less regard than most when determining GOAT.

Last night - and in every Superbowl Tom Brady has ever played in - it could easily be argued that Alex Smith could have and would have done everything Tom Brady did. Brady didn't really make any spectacular plays last night - he just dinked and dunked his way to victory - which is his M.O. and how his offensive system is built.

Here's a devil's advocate 2-pack of questions for you: Aside from his "accomplishments", what is awe-inspiring about Tom Brady's quarterback play? What are his greatest quarterbacking attributes?

I'l go with leadership and enough drive to push the rest of the team tword excellence.

 

[RP-29]

Also, this idea that he dinks and dunks has no basis in fact. Aaron Rodgers gets more YAC per catch than Brady. Would you say he dinks and dunks?

Rodgers gets more YAC because he hits more homeruns because he airs it out more. Brady gets less because he takes the short stuff to get small chunks in front of the defenders.