The First 2018 College Football Playoff

[TheRobotDevil]

Also losing multiple games and get blown the fuck out gets punished. But you don’t want them to matter.

Multiple? They lost 2 games one to Oklahoma one to Iowa. Ohio State and Alabama both won 11 games differences being Ohio State was good enough to get in and win their CCG. They play a 9 game conference schedule. They played a stronger schedule could have watered it down played Arkansas State instead of Oklahoma,Mercer instead of Iowa.....The 2 loss theory is an excuse.....The current system rewards watered down schedules

 

[TheRobotDevil]

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I can't be more clear. You are arguing over which team should be FOURTH FUCKING PLACE. Go play better and stop being somewhere between 4th and 6th. EARN 3rd or better and leave no doubt. This isn't hard man. At all.

There isn't a perfect way to settle who is 4 and I really honestly couldn't care less which way it goes. IT'S FOURTH ffs.

1000% you would still be here bitching up a storm over the exact same thing if they had an 8 team playoff of the same format and your outrage over which 3 loss team got in over which 2 loss team with whatever bullshit excuse you want to use. Wouldn't matter then either.

This system is better than an autobid of any type, at any number of teams and it's not hard to see the reasons why.

When you claim a team that finished 3rd in their conference is better than a team with the same amount of wins that won their conference. Is the better team sure it does. And its just going to lead to more weak schedules and meaningless games......

 

[TheRobotDevil]

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I can't be more clear. You are arguing over which team should be FOURTH FUCKING PLACE. Go play better and stop being somewhere between 4th and 6th. EARN 3rd or better and leave no doubt. This isn't hard man. At all.

There isn't a perfect way to settle who is 4 and I really honestly couldn't care less which way it goes. IT'S FOURTH ffs.

1000% you would still be here bitching up a storm over the exact same thing if they had an 8 team playoff of the same format and your outrage over which 3 loss team got in over which 2 loss team with whatever bullshit excuse you want to use. Wouldn't matter then either.

This system is better than an autobid of any type, at any number of teams and it's not hard to see the reasons why.

And if SC plays an 8 game schedule. replaces scheduling a neutral site game with Alabama and plays an FCS team in place of the extra conference game against Stanford. SC is in the play offs over Washington in 2016.....Weak scheduling gets you an autobid en sech........

 

[4down20]

So let’s go to an auto bid program that makes the season more watered down than Bud Light? Hell no. OSU didn’t have a better resume. They looked like shit the whole season, got blown out by a mediocre Iowa, the only game they look good in was Michigan State. Should have lost to Penn State and Michigan but they were coached by the Choke twins.

They want to go to a system where Alabama doesn't go last year but USC does.

 

[WizardHawk]

The issue is some people, let’s call them simpletons, want some clear path to a 4 team (out of 130) playoff that’s supposed to be the best 4. There can’t be clear qualifiers for that. The set up now is the best way to include multiple teams in a playoff and still keep college football what it always has been, or at least something close to what it’s always been. If you just want to see teams need to do what they need to do to win their conference to get a chance to be crowned champions, I’d suggest maybe college football isn’t for you.

Those of us who seem to understand the 4 team playoff and don’t have any issue with it don’t want to completely change the landscape of division 1 college football, if you want to expand the playoff, especially if you want AQs and clear criteria for getting in, even if you don’t realize it you want something totally different than something that has always been unique about it. You want to change college football to suit your specific interests. Seems pretty fucking selfish, asshole.

Actually few of them want just a 4 team autobid, most want AT LEAST 8, and several want 16, 32, or even 64. They basically want the NFL playoffs without the parity of schedules the NFL has and on 3/4 the number of games and 4 times the number of teams. And I'm not even that fond of the NFL's formats as it is. A 7/9 Seahawks team made it in the playoffs one year and won a game knocking a team out. That shouldn't happen, but is a glaring weakness of their format.

I don't want an end to OOC rivalries, the forcing of all indy teams to join a league, the complete end of all decent OOC matchups that will for sure end up being free bye weeks to look at jr talent and rest your stars so they are more fresh for the only games that count, and punish the shit out of really good teams in favor of putting in crappy champs of crappy conferences out of some misguided notion it is more fair.

The arguments for autobids always 100% fall apart. Thankfully that is why we don't actually have them, and won't ever have them. The people who are in position to work on this stuff know how really really dumb it is.

 

[4down20]

wtf kind of "staff member" is clarky?

Holy shit I've never seen someone brown nose so much in my life.

 

[bamabear82]

wtf kind of "staff member" is clarky?

Holy shit I've never seen someone brown nose so much in my life.

Head custodian in the Toilet Bowl.

 

[WizardHawk]

And if SC plays an 8 game schedule. replaces scheduling a neutral site game with Alabama and plays an FCS team in place of the extra conference game against Stanford. SC is in the play offs over Washington in 2016.....Weak scheduling gets you an autobid en sech........

Entirely logic fail.

There is nothing to stop you from having a shit schedule. Go do what you want with your OOC. You can do nothing but creampuffs if you wish. And there's still a chance you can get in the playoffs if everything lines up right. There's a whole lot of ifs there. You also have nearly no margin for error. That is FACT. It's a CHOICE your school can make. It is possible to run the table on so weak of a schedule you left out over a 1 loss team. And you'd deserve to sit home for making that choice.

You run the risk that your own conf can't provide enough meat to get there, but sure, why not. Go for it if you want.

And no, that isn't happening on some global scale. There are some examples of teams with weaker OOC, like 2 that have even been in sniffing range? Out of how many that have been top 6-7 in the CFP era?

Keep exaggerating and trying to pass off made up bullshit as facts. It's all you have when the actual facts keep shooting you down.

 

[WizardHawk]

Are the same people bitching about how unfair it is that G5 teams don't have an easier path to the playoffs also bitching that we have autobids now if you play a weak schedule? Is that really a thing?



Can't have it both ways. Either this system rewards at least playing warm bodies, or it gives a total free ride. It can't do both. At least pick just ONE side of that to latch onto for your crazy plans to kill college football. That's not too much to ask is it?

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Entirely logic fail.

There is nothing to stop you from having a shit schedule. Go do what you want with your OOC. You can do nothing but creampuffs if you wish. And there's still a chance you can get in the playoffs if everything lines up right. There's a whole lot of ifs there. You also have nearly no margin for error. That is FACT. It's a CHOICE your school can make. It is possible to run the table on so weak of a schedule you left out over a 1 loss team. And you'd deserve to sit home for making that choice.

You run the risk that your own conf can't provide enough meat to get there, but sure, why not. Go for it if you want.

And no, that isn't happening on some global scale. There are some examples of teams with weaker OOC, like 2 that have even been in sniffing range? Out of how many that have been top 6-7 in the CFP era?

Keep exaggerating and trying to pass off made up bullshit as facts. It's all you have when the actual facts keep shooting you down.

Claiming an 11-1 team that finished 3rd in their conference 2nd in their division. Is better than an 11-2 team that won a conference championship.

Or an 11-1 team that finished behind a team that beat them head to head is a better team. Than an 11-2 team that won their division and the head to head

Is a logic fail

Current system is based on opinion and watered down schedule autobids

 

[WizardHawk]

Claiming an 11-1 team that finished 3rd in their conference 2nd in their division. Is better than an 11-2 team that won a conference championship.

Or an 11-1 team that finished behind a team that beat them head to head is a better team. Than an 11-2 team that won their division and the head to head

Is a logic fail

Current system is based on opinion and watered down schedule autobids

Again you entirely miss the easy point.

You are quibbling over which flawed team was closer to 4th in your opinion than the committee picked. You are doing nothing but bitching over 4th place or 5th place. It is a battle that will 100% happen every single year. Forever. And it won't matter next year anymore than it does this year. Stop being so shitty you are 4th or lower. Go win. It isn't hard chief.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Again you entirely miss the easy point.

You are quibbling over which flawed team was closer to 4th in your opinion than the committee picked. You are doing nothing but bitching over 4th place or 5th place. It is a battle that will 100% happen every single year. Forever. And it won't matter next year anymore than it does this year. Stop being so shitty you are 4th or lower. Go win. It isn't hard chief.

Schedule more G5 FCS teams less big games miss your CCG you're in.....Watered down regular season to "qualify" based on opinions......seems legit

 

[rmilia1]

The last line says or other criteria. Really doesn't matter what that list says. The process is they all go into a room and vet out the order. Each from different parts of the country and different backgrounds/perspectives. They all have a voice.

We can presume they don't always agree 100%. We've heard about heated exchanges over some of the same things fans here and all over social media have argued about. It doesn't matter which choice they make. They will always have some upset that don't agree.

And I'm entirely fine with that.

They should pretty us do it . Talk about heated exchanged lol

 

[WizardHawk]

Schedule more G5 FCS teams less big games miss your CCG you're in.....Watered down regular season to "qualify" based on opinions......seems legit

Then why aren't G5's going in every year? We get undefeated teams from that rank nearly every year.

They don't because you are entirely overdramatizing and creating a fictitious problem that isn't real. This system doesn't guarantee an undefeated team entry. There is no autobid. Pick a cause to white knight because you can't do both saying we need autobids to let the little guys in AND we already allow anyone on a shitty schedule entry. Can't have it both ways boss.

 

[WizardHawk]

They should pretty us do it . Talk about heated exchanged lol

Did you just have a mini stroke?



I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Then why aren't G5's going in every year? We get undefeated teams from that rank nearly every year.

They don't because you are entirely overdramatizing and creating a fictitious problem that isn't real. This system doesn't guarantee an undefeated team entry. There is no autobid. Pick a cause to white knight because you can't do both saying we need autobids to let the little guys in AND we already allow anyone on a shitty schedule entry. Can't have it both ways boss.

Because the "eye test" and "style points" only matter for P5 teams......

The current system promotes watered down regular season schedule autobids.....If we are basing the play off selection system off of what we've seen as far as criteria and selections. And its supposed to be the best 4 teams he system is flawed

Alabama,Ohio State,Washington......

 

[rmilia1]

Did you just have a mini stroke?



I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say.

God damn auto correct .

They should LET us do it ( the committees job )

Son of a bitch

 

[WizardHawk]

Because the "eye test" and "style points" only matter for P5 teams......

The current system promotes watered down regular season schedule autobids.....If we are basing the play off selection system off of what we've seen as far as criteria and selections. And its supposed to be the best 4 teams he system is flawed

Alabama,Ohio State,Washington......

Oh, that's right, to carry on more of your crazy nonsense you require a conspiracy theory to explain an entirely different set of rules for one group vs another instead of the obvious nature of what really happens.

you use Washington being in as proof that always and forever any and all P5's need not play a single other P5 anywhere at any time and are guaranteed a spot. That's your argument. Yeah, it does still really sound that stupid when you say it as when its clarified by others.

No, you can't just do a derp schedule and have any guarantee. UW got in at 4th over some pretty flawed teams at 5th and 6th. They shouldn't have been a slam dunk, and weren't. The committee bitched about it and fought over it. They weren't happy to be in that position and where there because, like this year, there are too many meh teams to cleanly pick 4.

Auto bids would not only not fix that, it would make it so much worse that it kills college football dead. You WILL end up with crappy teams in over better teams. That is purely 100% fact, unlike this bullshit you keep trying to peddle as fact that hasn't happened.

 

[WizardHawk]

God damn auto correct .

They should LET us do it ( the committees job )

Son of a bitch

Oh, and I'm free most Sunday's. I'd be happy to join that committee.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Oh, that's right, to carry on more of your crazy nonsense you require a conspiracy theory to explain an entirely different set of rules for one group vs another instead of the obvious nature of what really happens.

you use Washington being in as proof that always and forever any and all P5's need not play a single other P5 anywhere at any time and are guaranteed a spot. That's your argument. Yeah, it does still really sound that stupid when you say it as when its clarified by others.

No, you can't just do a derp schedule and have any guarantee. UW got in at 4th over some pretty flawed teams at 5th and 6th. They shouldn't have been a slam dunk, and weren't. The committee bitched about it and fought over it. They weren't happy to be in that position and where there because, like this year, there are too many meh teams to cleanly pick 4.

Auto bids would not only not fix that, it would make it so much worse that it kills college football dead. You WILL end up with crappy teams in over better teams. That is purely 100% fact, unlike this bullshit you keep trying to peddle as fact that hasn't happened.

Simple logic

11-2 with a stronger schedule,playing an extra game against a 4th ranked team and a conference championship > 11-1 with no championship that finished 2nd in their division 3rd in their conference. With a weaker schedule. That promotes teams scheduling weaker teams to qualify and reducing the amount of big name OOC games.

Watered down regular seasons

If we want to go expanded play offs that adds more meaningful bowl games and less meh bowl games....

Thats common sense