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The Eagles made a mockery of the NFL last night

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We have a Super Bowl winning HC and GM. We have the 6th overall pick in the draft. We are just flat out a better run organization than any of the other teams in the division. I have no doubts whatsoever that the Eagles will be back to a playoff team within the next two years.

I'd bet the Jets even make the playoffs before the Giants do again. Giants have a terrible GM and QB. Not a good combo.

You also have had a number of bad drafts, a terrible cap situation, and a ton of holes to fill. The GM and HC could very well be gone and you have no idea if you even have a long term answer at the QB position, Hurts is still a very big question mark.
 

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I understand this, teams have different reasons for sitting players. So why should one be punished and one not for basically doing the same thing? Reasons? That's kind of a silly argument

They didn’t really do the same thing

Pittsburgh announced on Monday they were resting players for good reason

the Eagles made changes mid flight to assure they lose the game

players had to be restrained from attacking the head coach. The rookie QB is on tape saying “that’s not right”
 

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You also have had a number of bad drafts, a terrible cap situation, and a ton of holes to fill. And you have no idea if you even have a long term answer at the QB position, Hurts is still a very big question mark.

Yeah all that doesn’t say “great GM” to me
One miracle season, it happens in sports all the time
 

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They didn’t really do the same thing

Pittsburgh announced on Monday they were resting players for good reason

the Eagles made changes mid flight to assure they lose the game

players had to be restrained from attacking the head coach. The rookie QB is on tape saying “that’s not right”

And Pederson told the network that the plan was to get a look at Sudfeld, pretty similar situation. And again if they were trying to assure a loss then why weren't other starters pulled? Why was a player as valuable as Zach Ertz playing till the end if he was purposely trying to lose?
 

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And Pederson told the network that the plan was to get a look at Sudfeld, pretty similar situation. And again if they were trying to assure a loss then why weren't other starters pulled? Why was a player as valuable as Zach Ertz playing till the end if he was purposely trying to lose?

Ertz is a goner on that roster

I’ve said in this thread, they didn’t “owe” anything to the Giants, that angle is ridiculous, this was all about the look and how obvious it was

no one on the planet believes that a QB like Sudfeld, who doesn’t belong in the NFL, gave the Eagles a better chance of winning than Hurts, and that’s not an endorsement of Hurts, the jury is very much out on him

and in a game when points are at a premium, not taking a game tying FG on 4th and goal vs the best red zone defense in the league

it was just the look of it all, they wanted to move 3 spots in the draft and that’s their prerogative, they just should have went about it differently

for their own good, they’ve created a Mutiny in their own lockerroom, forget the Giants or the Skins or anyone else
 

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All I know is, I sure the fuck hope the Redskins are very pissed off for the disrespect they’re getting of everyone thinking a rb trying to play qb would’ve beat them, after they made the adjustments and basically shut his ass down. They need all the motivation they can get going against Suh and the goat
 

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Ertz is a goner on that roster

I’ve said in this thread, they didn’t “owe” anything to the Giants, that angle is ridiculous, this was all about the look and how obvious it was

no one on the planet believes that a QB like Sudfeld, who doesn’t belong in the NFL, gave the Eagles a better chance of winning than Hurts, and that’s not an endorsement of Hurts, the jury is very much out on him

and in a game when points are at a premium, not taking a game tying FG on 4th and goal vs the best red zone defense in the league

it was just the look of it all, they wanted to move 3 spots in the draft and that’s their prerogative, they just should have went about it differently

for their own good, they’ve created a Mutiny in their own lockerroom, forget the Giants or the Skins or anyone else
Honestly, that pretty much sums it up and in all honesty, that's just fine. Truthfully, I have less of a problem with that if they just flat out do the tank job amd say that's what they are doing. My real issue has to do with Pederson's dishonesty. He basically lied to his players by pretending to want to win that game. And he flat out lied in the presser afterward and it was an obvious lie.
For him to come out and say "I was trying to win the game" is laughable. Then he follows up by saying he wanted to get Sudfeld some reps for his loyalty to the team. Honestly, there wouldn't be a storyline here if Doug just gave the veterans the night off and played Sudfeld from the start. But because of the way he handled it, it just is ugly and stupid. And his players deserved to be in on it and given the choice.
 

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Yeah smart people know the reason for that SB win is now the head coach of the Colts

it’s no coincidence that since his departure, 2 QBs and 1 head coaches career have completely fallen off a cliff, while that guy in Indy has a playoff game this week


And yet in that time frame since Frank Reich has left the Eagles have had way more success than the Giants.

Giants terrible and will remain terrible.
 

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Honestly, that pretty much sums it up and in all honesty, that's just fine. Truthfully, I have less of a problem with that if they just flat out do the tank job amd say that's what they are doing. My real issue has to do with Pederson's dishonesty. He basically lied to his players by pretending to want to win that game. And he flat out lied in the presser afterward and it was an obvious lie.
For him to come out and say "I was trying to win the game" is laughable. Then he follows up by saying he wanted to get Sudfeld some reps for his loyalty to the team. Honestly, there wouldn't be a storyline here if Doug just gave the veterans the night off and played Sudfeld from the start. But because of the way he handled it, it just is ugly and stupid. And his players deserved to be in on it and given the choice.

Mine as well....everything done the wrong way......His players being pissed off is ALL you have to know......
 

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You also have had a number of bad drafts, a terrible cap situation, and a ton of holes to fill. The GM and HC could very well be gone and you have no idea if you even have a long term answer at the QB position, Hurts is still a very big question mark.


HC and GM are back.

This team under Lurie has shown time and time again that they are capable of quickly rebuilding and turning it around.


Like I said, I have no doubt this team will be back in the playoffs within the next 2 years. Giants will remain a terrible team though.
 

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And yet in that time frame since Frank Reich has left the Eagles have had way more success than the Giants.

Giants terrible and will remain terrible.

“Success”

both have failed, one is rebuilding in the right direction most objective observers would agree

one is a collapsing laughingstock
 

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HC and GM are back.

This team under Lurie has shown time and time again that they are capable of quickly rebuilding and turning it around.


Like I said, I have no doubt this team will be back in the playoffs within the next 2 years. Giants will remain a terrible team though.

“Time and time again”

you’ve had one magical SB run and walk around like you invented it
 

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I can't stand Peterson but did his game plan change during the game? Not that I can see. He rested his injured players and let Sudfield play as he said he would do days before the game. He's not there to carry the Giants water, he works for the Eagles. If the game mattered Cox would have been on the field. Pederson's actions were not thought out at halftime. Giants don't want to be disrespected ? Win more games, don't lose 3 of your final four regular season games. As an aside I haven't seen anything from Hurts that leads to believe he could have made a difference in the game. I don't see him as better than any mobile QB from a Division 1 program.
 

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Mine as well....everything done the wrong way......His players being pissed off is ALL you have to know......

Exactly, it’s all you have to know
He has already created a strained relationship with his rookie QB

“Gee should we listen to the guys on SportsHoopla, or the current and former players on the Eagles”
 

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I can't stand Peterson but did his game plan change during the game? Not that I can see. He rested his injured players and let Sudfield play as he said he would do days before the game. He's not there to carry the Giants water, he works for the Eagles. If the game mattered Cox would have been on the field. Pederson's actions were not thought out at halftime. Giants don't want to be disrespected ? Win more games, don't lose 3 of your final four regular season games. As an aside I haven't seen anything from Hurts that leads to believe he could have made a difference in the game. I don't see him as better than any mobile QB from a Division 1 program.

Eagles players don’t agree with you
 

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“Success”

both have failed, one is rebuilding in the right direction most objective observers would agree

one is a collapsing laughingstock


In the 3 years since they have won made the playoffs twice, won a playoff game and the division once.

Meanwhile the Giants with their terrible GM have gone a whopping 15-33 are having a meltdown over not making the playoffs at 6-10.

Giants aren't heading in any direction. They are on a straight line of trash. Terrible GM and QB has the Giants staying where they have been for nearly a half decade now.
 

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In the 3 years since they have won made the playoffs twice, won a playoff game and the division once.

Meanwhile the Giants with their terrible GM have gone a whopping 15-33 are having a meltdown over not making the playoffs at 6-10.

Giants aren't heading in any direction. They are on a straight line of trash. Terrible GM and QB has the Giants staying where they have been for nearly a half decade now.

Eagles just went 4-11-1 and you won’t find a non Eagles fan that thinks with their current situation, it was a mirage and they will just bounce back

no one
 
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