No disagreement there, but who where teams are ranked 1-8 the OOC games will matter.
In college football you need to have both elements due to the lack of same competition and having a series that actually determines a champ. (like volleyball and baseball)
The CFP is about crowning the Best team, not putting on a tournament. Like i said if you want that just watch the NFL or FCS.... there is a reason people like me dont watch that garbage, it isnt entertaining especially when they know they can lose and still get in, just watered down garbage that gets overly boring (nfl is worse because they are overpaid pussies)
all fair points, and no doubt would be better if we were still at 10 team conferences and all played by same rules.
every conference has a chance of getting represented, win out and you are in, there is no need to have 8 teams though.
what he is showing you is that in his "system" the top 4 ranked teams wont always be the top 4 in his system. Doesn't matter who the teams are as you seem to think the top 4 are the best 4.
You started out complaining about these posts in a war and peace length post? I stopped reading after that.jfc. Bomb the shit out of people all at once. This is exactly why these discussions belong in the off season when nothing else is going on anyway. I'm not going over 10 posts of quotes.
I will say the narrative that people not in favor of expanding are afraid or just hate change. It's a pretty stupid argument. Clearly there are a lot of people that do not feel it is broken now. If it isn't broken now and/or there are elements some of you want to get rid of that to us would take something we now enjoy away, why on earth would we be in favor of those changes?
There are plenty of things that need to be changed in the sport. The officiating/rules are absurd, NCAA is impotent to actually stop pay to play or other forms of cheating, the system does pay G5's to stay where they are but they probably deserve more, they don't do enough for player injuries and post college medical support, there are too many bowls, and lots more.
If you are going to propose a change to something in the sport, expect that those who do not agree there is something positive from that or that there aren't more negatives than positives just aren't going to go along with it. There are very real negatives for expanding the playoffs. Some are not willing to change and give up the aspects they love about this sport under what we feel are entirely misguided ideals that ignore those negatives or are simply in denial they exist.
Major college football is unique in how it does a great number of things. Some aren't perfect and should be tweaked (as mentioned above), but others give an experience unlike any other sport. AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY.
Always the damned comparisons to the NFL too...
Superbowl Champion does not necessarily mean best team in pro football. The top regular season team doesn't always win it, nor is it intended to do so. Too many of you assume the only way to give someone a title is for them to win a full tournament after their regular season. SBC is an awesome title. More watch that event than any other sport title game in the world for a reason. The playoff formula still isn't perfect (See Seahawks in the playoffs off a 7-9 season), but at least winning your division is about as fair as winning a baseball division given the amount of schedule parity. The rest isn't perfect, but there is no solution that would make it better so it's good where it's at. For example, the winner of the NFC East did not have the same as say the NFC South where the Saints have no one putting up a resistance. Yet each div winner has their win/loss exactly compared. It's less than perfect with no solution.
College football has no such mechanism. Period. Without going back to 10 team conferences (not going to happen because of conf money) you can't get anything even close to parity even within a specific conference, more or less trying to compare wins from one conference to another with how very different each is. The NFL doesn't ignore games while crowning their div champs, even the two unique games each plays every year. ALL 16 count. College counts either 8 or 9 for a conf championship. That's it, that's all. THIS thread was about how the committee is broken (lol at OP) and went right to autobids. Want to have a seperate one about some different kind of 8 or more? Neat. Start a thread on that. Do that after the bowl season wraps up and we can roll our sleeves up and get after it.
Trying to suggest people who don't want big playoffs also hate the NFL or otherwise try to correlate the two are offering up more strawman nonsense. We can, and do, like both for their particular and unique seasons. Until college drops to 4 team divisions and 16 game seasons with all the parity that comes from the format of that schedule, you can't duplicate their post season at this level. It's really dumb to suggest otherwise.
FCS week in the SEC is entertainment for you?
I never said we "need" anything. Only you seem to think your opinion is based on fact.
It is subjective and objective. SOS, SOR, Eye Test, Style Points, MOV etc it all plays a role and it all matters to the committee which is why the best team is in the top 4 which means the best team is far more likely to win vs an 8 team playoff
Then why did the committee have Wisky ahead of Bama before CCG week?
There are plenty of games played against the top teams. There are only 3 teams (2 if we are being honest) that are truly elite (ohio state and lsu) then there is clemson who has done everything right by winning all their games, what other teams are "top teams" who should be considered? the eye test can tell a lot, you can see how prone a team is to making mistakes, you can see how undisciplined they are, how assignment sound they are etc, things that are not black and white.
