The Chiefs have $177 in cap space.

[CaptainStubing]

Chris Jones isnt going anywhere.

the chiefs can't afford him. he wants close to Aaron Donald money.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Chris Jones isnt going anywhere.

If Miami forks over two 1sts for Jones I don't immediately say no given the cap ramifications of paying a DT 20-25M when you're already paying Clark.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

the chiefs can't afford him. he wants close to Aaron Donald money.

They can. Cap gymnastics aren't exactly a healthy way to build a team though even if you can technically make it work. Ask the Cowboys with Romo.

 

[Gatorchip]

Shouldn't the focus to be spending your budget and winning superbowls?

What am I missing.

 

[Black Adam]

they hate us cuz they ain't us...

 

[Schmoopy1000]

the chiefs can't afford him. he wants close to Aaron Donald money.

he already counts on the books with the tag.
Once they sign long term they can move money & free up cap space.

 

[dtgold88]

You don't need the first year hit to be outrageously high. It might be 50% of the AAV or something like that, can't remember the exact rule on it.

There are three general options however:

A) Trade Chris Jones, Trade/Cut Watkins

B) Retain/Extend Jones, Cut Watkins

C) Trade Chris Jones, Extend Watkins at a cheaper number [ This is similar in premise to what the 49ers did with Buckner/Armstead]

Extension wont go into effect until, what, 2022?

 

[Schmoopy1000]

If Miami forks over two 1sts for Jones I don't immediately say no given the cap ramifications of paying a DT 20-25M when you're already paying Clark.

True. if someone wants to pay a kings ransom in a trade I could see the Chiefs parting ways.

Personally I would rather have kept Jones over Clark (but clark is already signed)

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Extension wont go into effect until, what, 2022?

For Mahomes, yeah.

Watkins is in the poison-pill year of his contract where he is either released or extended. Jones is on the Tag and a trade has been posited to potentially bring back a Khalil Mack like value if you believe Daniel Jeremiah.

As far as 2020 goes, one of those two needs to move.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

True. if someone wants to pay a kings ransom in a trade I could see the Chiefs parting ways.

Personally I would rather have kept Jones over Clark (but clark is already signed)

I agree. The injuries with Jones give me some pause, but Jones is about as good as it gets outside of Aaron Donald who is an alien. I am not going to panic over Jones if you get a healthy return of draft picks with Mahomes and Reid still there.

Another perk of moving Jones via trade is you have money to re-sign Bashaud Breeland at CB in a weak CB draft.

 

[dtgold88]

For Mahomes, yeah.

Watkins is in the poison-pill year of his contract where he is either released or extended. Jones is on the Tag and a trade has been posited to potentially bring back a Khalil Mack like value if you believe Daniel Jeremiah.

As far as 2020 goes, one of those two needs to move.

I mean, I love how the Browns are doing things, planning for now AND the future (when guys like garrett, Ward, etc need big money), but like others have said for a SB they can do whatever they want.

 

[Iggloo]

I am sure Cowboys fans really disapprove of this situation, and would prefer what they did last season to KC. Salary cap title over SB title!

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I mean, I love how the Browns are doing things, planning for now AND the future (when guys like garrett, Ward, etc need big money), but like others have said for a SB they can do whatever they want.

There's good team building and then there's leveraging what you've built to win the trophy.

Ignore one or the other and you're probably in trouble or just have some cheat code like prime Peyton, Brady, or Mahomes at QB.

 

[dtgold88]

There's good team building and then there's leveraging what you've built to win the trophy.

Ignore one or the other and you're probably in trouble or just have some cheat code like prime Peyton, Brady, or Mahomes at QB.

Obviously, Browns plan is in the hope Baker is a stud (not elite of elite, but no worse than top 10). If he is, they also need to win now before he would get big money (along with Garrett, Ward, etc)

 

[Iggloo]

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

177 bucks they could buy Trubisky from us.

 

[broncosmitty]

I would not care if the Lions had to cut their entire team and hire no new player for 4 years if I got to watch them win a SuperBowl

I'd only need a playoff win to take that deal.

 

[Iggloo]

177 bucks they could buy Trubisky from us.

Hard pass

 

[wazzu31]

I would not care if the Lions had to cut their entire team and hire no new player for 4 years if I got to watch them win a SuperBowl

Cleveland tried that when they sent the Browns away, it doesn’t work.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Chris Jones isnt going anywhere.

Maybe not? But there is going to be some serious moves required this year and next.

First they can't even sign a draft pick currently. Granted they only have 6 right now? Regardless they need to plan for the future. So will have to sign a few.

Watkins, Clark, Mathieu and Hill's contract/cap hits are crazy. Frank Clark has a $56M dead cap Hill and Mathieu are 22M and 21M dead cap. Watkins is the only reasonable one and he's a 7M dead cap.

No rookies signed yet and Mahomes due, OUCH!

I didn't even look at when some of these contracts and guys like Kelce end.

KC could very easily be looking at a one year wonder. They'll be competitive as long as they have Mahomey but another SB????

That's why BB signs a bunch of aging vets and has avoided overpaying.