The case for 8

[bamabear82]

I didn’t read how you came to your top-8, because your wall-of-text was too painful to make an attempt, but if you went by the top 8 then there are problems:

#10 blew out #7, yet would have been left out of the playoffs.

#11 soundly beat #8, yet would have been left out of the playoffs.

#15 soundly beat #5, yet would have been left out of the playoffs.



That being said, none of the teams above are anywhere close to Clemson and Alabama this season. If you want an 8 team playoff, then I ask why not a 16 team playoff? Why not a 32 team playoff? Hell, why not have every team in the playoffs?

Each team should have to play each other 3 times just to make sure too.

 

[Kevin12773]

This season we would've been fine with just 2.

PS- you’re right though

 

[NU_FTW]

Each team should have to play each other 3 times just to make sure too.

Best of 5, no best of 7, no best of 9........

 

[bamabear82]

Best of 5, no best of 7, no best of 9........

#OneTrueChamp

 

[Deep Creek]

Well here is a timely article.

www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/change-may-be-coming-to-the-college-football-playoff-just-not-the-type-you-might-expect/

"What are we doing to the bowl system?" that source asked rhetorically. "The guys who are really at risk [are those who would see] property values devalue in the upper bowl games."

Well now. How about that?

 

[Deep Creek]

"We already have expanded playoffs," Clemson coach Dabo Swinney said last week. "I say it every year. There are only 12-15 teams that can make it."

Dabo speaks the truth...only a little too high. I'd say only about 8-10 teams have a legit shot unless some real, real wacky stuff occurs.

 

[4down20]

yea, shocking a bama fan finds no problem with the current system.........

That's what they said about every system they've had. I've been alive for most of the changes since the Big10 and Pac12 held the rest of college football hostage for the majority of college football history.

However, when it was the poll era going to the BCS era, I was always told "Alabama won't win any more national championships once they have to win it on the field".

Then after Alabama started winning the BCS 50% of the time, I was always told "Once the playoffs come and it's 4 teams, Alabama won't win anymore national championships".

And now here we are 5 years into the playoffs and it's basically the same thing. "Of course you don't want to expand", as if Alabama wouldn't win more national championships.

Tired excuse is really tired. If Ohio St deserved to be there, you wouldn't have struggled against the majority of your competition, and you sure as hell wouldn't have gotten blown out by Purdue. Fix your shit rather than trying to make the playoffs take you regardless of your fuck ups.

No sympathy for teams getting blown out by unranked teams.

 

[SignalBama]

Huh? At no point did they have a chance of losing this thing. tOSU dominated until late in the 3rd. Not sure what happened but their playcalling was different and they were playing prevent. I wouldn't say they struggled considering UW never actually had a chance to win

Not really. tOSU and their all world Offense couldn't even gain 400 yards on Washington. They stood no shot against Clemson or Alabama. tOSU actually ended up getting outgained in the game by nearly a hundred yards. Washington Dominated the 4th quarter and one drive that ended on downs in the 3rd was the difference in the game ultimately.

 

[cwalke3408]

The goal of college athletics is to help develop young men and women into responsible and honorable people of integrity. The current college football system does not allow for that. We should be taught to respect all involved including our opponents. The current system causes many major power 5 conference teams to schedule non-conference opponents that are much weaker as the teams fear one loss will not allow them to be one of the four subjectively chosen teams. Also, in these extremely lopsided non-conference games the major power 5 team is expected to win by a huge margin which does not teach our young men to be respectful of the opponent. It only teaches them to show no mercy and run up the score on an obviously lesser opponent to make the subjective choice easier for the committee.

 

[WizardHawk]

The Case for 8

As a college football fan, I am exasperated by some of the talking heads of college sports bemoaning a transition to an 8-team playoff in college football. It is evident that this would not only be a good idea, it would help make college football more enjoyable for all involved. The goal of college athletics is to help develop young men and women into responsible and honorable people of integrity. The current college football system does not allow for that. We should be taught to respect all involved including our opponents. The current system causes many major power 5 conference teams to schedule non-conference opponents that are much weaker as the teams fear one loss will not allow them to be one of the four subjectively chosen teams. Also, in these extremely lopsided non-conference games the major power 5 team is expected to win by a huge margin which does not teach our young men to be respectful of the opponent. It only teaches them to show no mercy and run up the score on an obviously lesser opponent to make the subjective choice easier for the committee. By including all power 5 conference champs plus 3 at large teams in the college playoff, you allow teams to schedule much more competitive regular season non-conference games as no one fears the loss with keep them from being subjectively chosen. Then coaches do not have to chide their fan bases for not showing up to watch them pummel a much smaller university. You could even structure the non-conference games a bit so that the conferences played each other based upon their ranking in their conference from the previous year. An early season Ohio State verses Alabama game would draw much more attention than either of them playing a tiny university non-conference game. The 8-team playoff allows for many more regular season non-conference match ups between ranked teams. It also puts more emphasis on winning the conference title. If teams know winning their respective conference title gains them a shot at the national title, then they are more focused on the conference championship. As of right now, the conference titles are meaningless unless you are in the SEC as shown by the subjective choices of the committee. This would also dramatically broaden the interest of the country in the national college football process instead of it only being focused in the southeast. Thank you for taking the time to read this and feel free to re-post it anywhere you can.

Wait, some fuck stick who has never posted here before and hasn't yet discovered a damned paragraph does this?

This is why this site shouldn't let noobs have the ability to create a thread until at least 50 posts in. Seriously. The fuck?

We've seen quite a few argue for increasing the number of teams for more playoffs. That's nothing new. This clown's major point is there's no repercussion for scheduling crap with their out of conference games... but favors auto bid / AQ conf champs are in... which entirely and completely ignores out of conference games.



That's advanced level derp right there.

I seriously can't get why so many believe it would lead to better games. Every single one of you that spews that garbage have real issues with logic. You believe there is no punishment for playing Mercer now... but magically once the games mean nothing everyone is going to schedule bama! x4! fer realz! Because no fans are going to be running their AD out of town with pitchforks for getting their star players hurt against bigger/faster/stronger teams in entirely meaningless games.

Get the fuck out of here with that weakass bullshit. Use your fucking noodle. And for gods sake break a fucking line or two up and make it so people can skim your drivel.

 

[Deep Creek]

Wait, some fuck stick who has never posted here before and hasn't yet discovered a damned paragraph does this?

This is why this site shouldn't let noobs have the ability to create a thread until at least 50 posts in. Seriously. The fuck?

We've seen quite a few argue for increasing the number of teams for more playoffs. That's nothing new. This clown's major point is there's no repercussion for scheduling crap with their out of conference games... but favors auto bid / AQ conf champs are in... which entirely and completely ignores out of conference games.



That's advanced level derp right there.

I seriously can't get why so many believe it would lead to better games. Every single one of you that spews that garbage have real issues with logic. You believe there is no punishment for playing Mercer now... but magically once the games mean nothing everyone is going to schedule bama! x4! fer realz! Because no fans are going to be running their AD out of town with pitchforks for getting their star players hurt against bigger/faster/stronger teams in entirely meaningless games.

Get the fuck out of here with that weakass bullshit. Use your fucking noodle. And for gods sake break a fucking line or two up and make it so people can skim your drivel.

Well now...that isn't very welcoming Wiz.

I like it.

 

[7Samurai13]

Wait, some fuck stick who has never posted here before and hasn't yet discovered a damned paragraph does this?

This is why this site shouldn't let noobs have the ability to create a thread until at least 50 posts in. Seriously. The fuck?

We've seen quite a few argue for increasing the number of teams for more playoffs. That's nothing new. This clown's major point is there's no repercussion for scheduling crap with their out of conference games... but favors auto bid / AQ conf champs are in... which entirely and completely ignores out of conference games.



That's advanced level derp right there.

I seriously can't get why so many believe it would lead to better games. Every single one of you that spews that garbage have real issues with logic. You believe there is no punishment for playing Mercer now... but magically once the games mean nothing everyone is going to schedule bama! x4! fer realz! Because no fans are going to be running their AD out of town with pitchforks for getting their star players hurt against bigger/faster/stronger teams in entirely meaningless games.

Get the fuck out of here with that weakass bullshit. Use your fucking noodle. And for gods sake break a fucking line or two up and make it so people can skim your drivel.

The only thing new In that whole rant was not wanting to have teams run up the score to protect people’s feelings.

 

[NU_FTW]

People dont understand, the entire purpose of the playoff isnt to find the 4 best teams, it is to find the best 2 teams and ultimately the winner of that.

If it expands it needs to be because someone actually thinks team #5 or #6 should have been able to take on for the title. not because they might have been #3 or #4....

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

I’m all for 8. Always have been.

 

[Brees#1]

The first "sentence" is fucked, can't figure out why there is a wall of gay. This year proves/argues against expansion and says the BCS would have been right.

I think 6 is perfectly the maximum for any given year (2 would have been fine this year) 8 is retarded like the wall of text.

But how is six possible? That means 3-6 have to play more playoff games.

 

[Deep Creek]

I’m all for 8. Always have been.

I'm beginning to think I'd like to see either an 8 team playoff or just go back to the old bowl system and voting for the natty. Bowls sure seemed a lot better then.

It seems like both the BCS and CFP are just dipping their toes in the pool. Either go all in or don't get wet at all. JMO

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

I'm beginning to think I'd like to see either an 8 team playoff or just go back to the old bowl system and voting for the natty. Bowls sure seemed a lot better then.

It seems like both the BCS and CFP are just dipping their toes in the pool. Either go all in or don't get wet at all. JMO

I agree. The current system leaves too many wanting more.

 

[7Samurai13]

I agree. The current system leaves too many wanting more.

So guaranteeing 3 games between the top 4 ranked teams is worse than getting one, maybe two between the top ranked teams?

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

So guaranteeing 3 games between the top 4 ranked teams is worse than getting one, maybe two between the top ranked teams?

I don’t know that it’s worse per se, but rather what more people want. As it stands, all you hear after the CFP is “well, (insert excluded team) would’ve won it if included!” I say let all of the champs in and let the chips fall where they may.

If a 4-5 loss conference champ gets in, let them be a sacrificial lamb for the #1 team. At least then no one can complain about a lack of access.

 

[NU_FTW]

But how is six possible? That means 3-6 have to play more playoff games.

It's simple 1 2 get bye for first round, 6 is a stretch and the maximum it should ever be.