The Case Against MJ as the GOAT (topical discussion only please)

[msgkings322]

He has seen some of the requests for it and does not seem to be interested. I really don't see him being on MAGA's level as far as over the top....granted never seen his political comments.

Of course he's not interested, he's an abject pussy who blocks people lol.

Hoping one of you could shame him into it but I'm not losing sleep over it

 

[dtgold88]

Of course he's not interested, he's an abject pussy who blocks people lol.

Hoping one of you could shame him into it but I'm not losing sleep over it

Have to say from little interactions I've had the blocking a bit of a surprise.....and never really got the concept. Easy to scroll if you don't want to interact with someone. Well, if you have self control.

 

[msgkings322]

Have to say from little interactions I've had the blocking a bit of a surprise.....and never really got the concept. Easy to scroll if you don't want to interact with someone. Well, if you have self control.

He came in hot with some racist sports takes and when I clowned him he immediately got pissy and blocked me LOL

 

[dtgold88]

He came in hot with some racist sports takes and when I clowned him he immediately got pissy and blocked me LOL

how the hell did I miss those? Probably on a ban.....I should get a refund.

 

[dtgold88]

So you tryin' to say anyone that doesn't hate-hate-hate LeBron is a "fan boy"?

right? I mean, I have said repeatedly I have never liked Lebron...a drama queen and narcissist and not very good leader. But been called a fanboy.

Only true fanboys (or ball lickers) in this thread are the extreme MJ lovers.

 

[tlance]

5 MVP’s says otherwise

He’s on the short list of GOAT considerations

Nah.

In the Stone Age of basketball.

And he wasn’t even the best player at his own position during his era.

Automatically disqualified from the conversation.

 

[Tomhusker]

So you tryin' to say anyone that doesn't hate-hate-hate LeBron is a "fan boy"?

No. Those who think he is better than Jordan are.

 

[Wamu]

right? I mean, I have said repeatedly I have never liked Lebron...a drama queen and narcissist and not very good leader. But been called a fanboy.

Only true fanboys (or ball lickers) in this thread are the extreme MJ lovers.

Damn right.

 

[Wamu]

No. Those who think he is better than Jordan are.

Can you name just one person that has actually said LeBron > MJ? Because I can't.

Personally I have MJ as the GOAT. But people that gots the issues with LeBron are seemingly never able to give him any credit for the unmatched career he's had.

And like I have said before to only be compared to the GOAT is one helluva compliment for LeBron.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Nah.

In the Stone Age of basketball.

So what?

And he wasn’t even the best player at his own position during his era.

Says who?

Automatically disqualified from the conversation.

Not a chance

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Can you name just one person that has actually said LeBron > MJ? Because I can't.

Personally I have MJ as the GOAT. But people that gots the issues with LeBron are seemingly never able to give him any credit for the unmatched career he's had.

And like I have said before to only be compared to the GOAT is one helluva compliment for LeBron.

I could make a GOAT case for 5 players.. but notice that even suggesting MJ isn’t the goat makes MJ fans rage towards Lebron without any prompting

I made this argument specifically in this manner to not just make the case, but to show the insecurity of MJ fanatics when it comes to Lebron James, which occurs every time

 

[tlance]

So what?

Says who?

Not a chance

Anyone with a brain.

His stats aren’t close to GOAT level. Just not even in the ballpark.

 

[Wamu]

Anyone with a brain.

His stats aren’t close to GOAT level. Just not even in the ballpark.

You know I'm a Celtics fan. I'll be the first to say Russell should never be mentioned in the GOAT conversation.

He's the greatest winner of all time. Not the greatest player.

And like you said in a previous comment he's not even the best player at his position of his era.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Anyone with a brain.

His stats aren’t close to GOAT level. Just not even in the ballpark.

Which ones? Depends on what you value. And blocks and DPOY didn’t exist (which Russell would have dominated in)

 

[Wamu]

-->I could make a GOAT case for 5 players<--.. but notice that even suggesting MJ isn’t the goat makes MJ fans rage towards Lebron without any prompting

I made this argument specifically in this manner to not just make the case, but to show the insecurity of MJ fanatics when it comes to Lebron James, which occurs every time

Can't just say MJ fans. Alotta people dislike LeBron.

Okay let's see your list. I suggest you do not mention Russell.

 

[Wamu]

Which ones? Depends on what you value. And blocks and DPOY didn’t exist (which Russell would have dominated in)

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You know I'm a Celtics fan. I'll be the first to say Russell should never be mentioned in the GOAT conversation.

He's the greatest winner of all time. Not the greatest player.

And like you said in a previous comment he's not even the best player at his position of his era.

Well you guys are just going to have to explain how the guy stumbled across 5 MVP’s to go along with being the clear alpha dog on a team that won 11 titles.

 

[Wamu]

Well you guys are just going to have to explain how the guy stumbled across 5 MVP’s to go along with being the clear alpha dog on a team that won 11 titles.

Look at his ppg average + his lousy FG %.

Do you even follow the NBA?

Do you rate players by rings only...if so does that mean you got Horry (7 rings) > MJ (6)? Now see how absurd of a question that is.

Rings don't always tell the full story of a players career.

Here's an example...

Greg Kite (2 rings) > Ewing

 

[tlance]

Well you guys are just going to have to explain how the guy stumbled across 5 MVP’s to go along with being the clear alpha dog on a team that won 11 titles.

Because he was the best player on a team full of HOFers.

A defensive specialist simply cannot be the greatest of all time.

That is what Russell was. The GOAT has to dominate on both ends of the court.

 

[Wamu]

No. Those who think he is better than Jordan are.

So you can't name a single person that has said LeBron > MJ. Just as I figured.