Doesn't matter about having a deep threat since Barrett's deep ball is shit. Oklahoma held us to 1 TD because we literally refused to run Dobbins or Weber in the RZ (3 trips, 0 RB carries, 3 FGs). Think that may have had something to do with it? If you watched the game, you would've seen Dobbins eating chunks of yards on several plays, and Weber did the same on his few carries. We gameplanned like shit that game and it bit us in the ass.Come on ATF. I've watched every OSU game this year. Your offense still has no deep threat and the only average defense you face (Oklahoma), held you to 1 TD and a few FG's.
I agree -- OSU, when facing teams with inferior athletes, their offense is great. They can complete little bubble screens or 5 yard outs and the WR can take it to the house, like they have done a few times.
To beat the better teams, you have to find a way to make a defense worry about the deep ball, or defenses with talent, will do the same thing UM and Clemson did last year, and Oklahoma did this year. Take away the big plays by bringing pressure and limiting the run by moving the safeties up.
Take a look at the great teams Urban Meyer has had. They all have one thing in common. A WR who can stretch the field. At Florida they had a few, but Percy Harvin was the main guy. When OSU won the title, they had a few, but Devin Smith was the guy.
You haven't had that since Smith left.
HEY, there will be no negative talk about the conference as a whole in here!Yes. That is your Big 10 'Hiding in the Rose Bowl' in 1994 and 1997 history lesson for today.
LOL. I didn't think you would answer, ya gutless wank.
I was 35 back then so long out of high school.
OK then, you want to talk about the present....
Nebraska is (2-0) against Michigan in the most 'present' we can get. (2012 & 2013).
Doesn't matter about having a deep threat since Barrett's deep ball is shit. Oklahoma held us to 1 TD because we literally refused to run Dobbins or Weber in the RZ (3 trips, 0 RB carries, 3 FGs). Think that may have had something to do with it? If you watched the game, you would've seen Dobbins eating chunks of yards on several plays, and Weber did the same on his few carries. We gameplanned like shit that game and it bit us in the ass.
If you actually watched the last two games, you'd of also seen that we didn't score on bubble screens or 5 yard outs for the most part. Even against Indiana that wasn't it. They were largely throws across the middle.
We have 2 guys this year in KJ Hill and Parris Campbell who have already shown in several games that they can lift the lid, but Barrett either underthrows them or waits too long to get rid of the ball (something he has done an obscene amount suddenly these last two years).
You also realize your argument here is the exact same argument someone could make against michigan's defense this year, right? Honestly, who is the best offensive player you've faced this year? Who's the best QB? Have you even faced an offensive skill position player who will be drafted in the next 2 years?
This weeks games. Pick the winners and by how much
Indiana @ Penn State
Maryland @ Minnesota
Iowa @ Michigan State
Ohio State @ Rutgers
Nebraska @ Illinois
Northwestern @ Wisconsin
As long as it is not Michigan as a whole.Is it okay to talk shit about meeeechegan?
I did answer. The exact way a normal person would. IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. No one cares.
Congrats on beating UM, you are now on par with Rutgers, who also beat UM during the 7-8 period of Hoke and Rich Rod.
You are getting closer to the present. You are only 5 years away. Now make the jump and talk about football in the present. If you'd like, I could set up a Thread where you can reminisce about the good ol' days.
This weeks games. Pick the winners and by how much
Indiana @ Penn State
Maryland @ Minnesota
Iowa @ Michigan State
Ohio State @ Rutgers
Nebraska @ Illinois
Northwestern @ Wisconsin
It's not on the WRs. At least not the overwhelming majority of it. From Tim Bielik of Cleveland.com, sports writer:ATF -- your own former player said almost verbatim what I've said the last two years to you during the Oklahoma game. Herbstreit literally called out OSU for not having a deep threat and said that is what is hurting the offense.
Both announcers called out the WRs for being unable to get separation against OU and went on show clip after clip after clip of Barrett having no one to throw the ball when OSU tried to throw the ball downfield.
I have no doubt KJ Hill and Paris Campbell have the measureables. You have to be able to get off the line of scrimmage on your routes and get separation with your route running to get open. Every team can line up guys to run 4.4's on the outside, there is way more to being a WR than just that. If that was the case -- the NFL would sign Usain Bolt to a max contract and watch him put up monster numbers. That isn't how it works.
I wrote after the game about how the first two passes from Barrett in the fourth quarter helped lead to 14 points from the Sooners. The first came on a 4th-and-4 to start the quarter and he missed K.J. Hill deep down the field. Barrett forced his throw in between three defenders and rolling to his right kept him from finding an open Parris Campbell on a mesh route right at the sticks. After Ohio State got the ball back down, 24-13, Barrett threw his first interception of the season. He tried to hit Johnnie Dixon on a five-yard comeback. But he threw it late, and Oklahoma's Parnell Motley stepped in front of it for the interception.
Ann Arbor is a WHOREJust ann arbor. The Spartans are okay in my book.
Indiana @ Penn StateThis weeks games. Pick the winners and by how much
Actually they were Yes/No questions, so you failed to answer them.
The 2013 season was just 3 full seasons ago (not 5).
Alas I will accomodate you yet again and talk about ' Post' 2013.
Michigan
2014 - (5-7)
2015 - (10-3)
2016 - (10-3)
NO National Championships
NO Conference Championships
NOT EVEN a 'Division' Championship
Those are Bo Pelini numbers. Not a fucking thing of substance won.
Is that 'present' enough for you, or is it the 'What Might Be' present you really want to talk about?