The #7 pick

[tomodach10]

They have no choice but to get more back. Under the CBA, they cannot trade this years 1st round pick without receiving one back in return. Essentially, the trade would have to Thompson and either GSW or Minny's 1st round pick for the #7 pick.

With the way this draft is starting to shape up, Thompson plus one of the later first round picks may not be such a bad idea.

That is better, but I still would not do it.

 

[tomodach10]

Snowdog, I have been thinking the same thing. I think so. Some bastard child Dr. Buss had with a housekeeper that nobody knows about maybe. They sure as hell think the same way and come up with the damnedest ideas!!

Me too. I hate Ruben as well.

 

[erckm510]

They have no choice but to get more back. Under the CBA, they cannot trade this years 1st round pick without receiving one back in return. Essentially, the trade would have to Thompson and either GSW or Minny's 1st round pick for the #7 pick.

With the way this draft is starting to shape up, Thompson plus one of the later first round picks may not be such a bad idea.

GSW doesn't have a first rounder this year. Went to Utah. Don't see any way that LA would get the 13th pick from Minny. Would have to get a team like the Suns to throw in one of their 1st round pick for a future 1st. Thompson and draft either Kyle Anderson or Shabazz Napier would be pretty interesting.

 

[tomodach10]

GSW doesn't have a first rounder this year. Went to Utah. Don't see any way that LA would get the 13th pick from Minny. Would have to get a team like the Suns to throw in one of their 1st round pick for a future 1st. Thompson and draft either Kyle Anderson or Shabazz Napier would be pretty interesting.

That is not going to happen.

 

[wildturkey]

They have no choice but to get more back. Under the CBA, they cannot trade this years 1st round pick without receiving one back in return. Essentially, the trade would have to Thompson and either GSW or Minny's 1st round pick for the #7 pick.

With the way this draft is starting to shape up, Thompson plus one of the later first round picks may not be such a bad idea.

Not saying you're wrong, but where have you seen that? That's the first I've heard of it. You talking about trading before the draft? If that's what it is, then there's a workaround that a lot of teams do. And that's the trade doesn't become "official" until AFTER the draft. For example, that deal would be a handshake deal but the Lakers would draft the player Minnesota or GSW (whoever gets the pick) wants at #7 and then complete the trade at a later date. At least that's how its been done in the past.


You guys are underselling Thompson a bit. He's an emerging talent with all star potential (you could have made a case for him this past year). He's a lights out shooter and a much better defender than he gets credit for. Not an A+ defender, but certainly a B+, maybe even A-. His one knock right now would be he's basically an old school SG, meaning he doesn't really create his own shot that much. But he's also young and not been in a situation to do much of that so there's a chance he can still do that. He's worth the pick depending on how the draft falls. SG is paper thin in the NBA right now and he's probably the 4th or 5th on the list. Healthy Kobe, Harden, Wade, Beal, Thompson. Then there's Afflalo but it drops off a cliff after that

I just don't see how the trade makes sense though. There's so much information thrown out there that its getting conflicting. The reports say the GSW/Love deal has stalled because GSW management is split on whether to trade Thompson in the deal or not. If GSW doesn't want to move Thompson for Love, why would they want to do it just because LA got involved? Nuts man. It's enough to make you not even get the littlest bit excited about anything. Might as well ignore everything until something happens for real.


And some other tidbits I've found interesting, LA brought in several more players in for workouts but what stood out to me was several of those workouts were for players currently projected to go in the mid to late 1st round. They'd definitely be reaches at #7. So that tells me LA is still very much looking to get an extra pick later in the round some way some how

 

[trojanfan12]

Not saying you're wrong, but where have you seen that? That's the first I've heard of it. You talking about trading before the draft? If that's what it is, then there's a workaround that a lot of teams do. And that's the trade doesn't become "official" until AFTER the draft. For example, that deal would be a handshake deal but the Lakers would draft the player Minnesota or GSW (whoever gets the pick) wants at #7 and then complete the trade at a later date. At least that's how its been done in the past.


You guys are underselling Thompson a bit. He's an emerging talent with all star potential (you could have made a case for him this past year). He's a lights out shooter and a much better defender than he gets credit for. Not an A+ defender, but certainly a B+, maybe even A-. His one knock right now would be he's basically an old school SG, meaning he doesn't really create his own shot that much. But he's also young and not been in a situation to do much of that so there's a chance he can still do that. He's worth the pick depending on how the draft falls. SG is paper thin in the NBA right now and he's probably the 4th or 5th on the list. Healthy Kobe, Harden, Wade, Beal, Thompson. Then there's Afflalo but it drops off a cliff after that

I just don't see how the trade makes sense though. There's so much information thrown out there that its getting conflicting. The reports say the GSW/Love deal has stalled because GSW management is split on whether to trade Thompson in the deal or not. If GSW doesn't want to move Thompson for Love, why would they want to do it just because LA got involved? Nuts man. It's enough to make you not even get the littlest bit excited about anything. Might as well ignore everything until something happens for real.


And some other tidbits I've found interesting, LA brought in several more players in for workouts but what stood out to me was several of those workouts were for players currently projected to go in the mid to late 1st round. They'd definitely be reaches at #7. So that tells me LA is still very much looking to get an extra pick later in the round some way some how

I've heard that under the cba, teams can't trade their 1st round pick 2 years in a row without receiving a first round pick back.

I could also see a similar deal as was done with Kobe, where each team tells the other who to draft and then do a draft day trade. That may be something they are exploring which could explain some of what you mentioned in your last paragraph.

I agree that there are all kinds of conflicting reports. I heard the one that says GSW management is split on including Thompson. I guess that it would just depend on who wins out.

 

[wildturkey]

I've heard that under the cba, teams can't trade their 1st round pick 2 years in a row without receiving a first round pick back.

I could also see a similar deal as was done with Kobe, where each team tells the other who to draft and then do a draft day trade. That may be something they are exploring which could explain some of what you mentioned in your last paragraph.

I agree that there are all kinds of conflicting reports. I heard the one that says GSW management is split on including Thompson. I guess that it would just depend on who wins out.

Is it the Stepien rule you heard about? What Is the Ted Stepien Rule?

If its that rule, then I think LA can trade either under the scenario I described or they can just trade the pick straight up because it's no longer a "future" pick on draft night, it becomes a "current" pick. I know the Stepien rule is why we have this pick in the first place. I've just never read a clear definition on when LA can (or if they can) actually move the pick.

 

[Malibu]

Lakers do not make that trade. Damn Jim Buss.

 

[trojanfan12]

Is it the Stepien rule you heard about? What Is the Ted Stepien Rule?

If its that rule, then I think LA can trade either under the scenario I described or they can just trade the pick straight up because it's no longer a "future" pick on draft night, it becomes a "current" pick. I know the Stepien rule is why we have this pick in the first place. I've just never read a clear definition on when LA can (or if they can) actually move the pick.

Yeah, I think it is the Stepien rule. I agree with you too that some folks are undervaluing Thompson. He's a very good shooter, plays good defense and he's young.

 

[erckm510]

Yeah, I think it is the Stepien rule. I agree with you too that some folks are undervaluing Thompson. He's a very good shooter, plays good defense and he's young.

Is he worth 12-15 mil a year tho?

 

[Louie26]

Is he worth 12-15 mil a year tho?

If he can improve on his consistency and creating his own shot ", I say yes!

Don't think it's happening anyway!

 

[erckm510]

If he can improve on his consistency and creating his own shot ", I say yes!

Don't think it's happening anyway!

He's young enough to improve some parts of his game. But he'll always need a creator to play with.

 

[Louie26]

He's young enough to improve some parts of his game. But he'll always need a creator to play with.

I agree. Not sure where everyone is on this, but I, for one, would love to see Nash retire. And not many are sold on Kendall Marshall, but I think they'd be good together. Other than the fact we'd be a liability on defense.

 

[erckm510]

I agree. Not sure where everyone is on this, but I, for one, would love to see Nash retire. And not many are sold on Kendall Marshall, but I think they'd be good together. Other than the fact we'd be a liability on defense.

Kinda torn on Nash. I think he's done but still wanna see him play hoping I'm wrong. I don't like Marshall tho. D'Antoni's offense made him look better then he actually is.

 

[trojanfan12]

Is he worth 12-15 mil a year tho?

Plays both ends of the floor, shoots 40%+ from 3 point range and is young enough to still have good upside. Plus, don't the Lakers have some guy coming down to the last of couple of seasons of his career that's supposed to be pretty good. Maybe Klay can learn a couple of things from that guy re: creating his own shot, etc.?

I'd say he's probably worth it.

 

[Louie26]

Kinda torn on Nash. I think he's done but still wanna see him play hoping I'm wrong. I don't like Marshall tho. D'Antoni's offense made him look better then he actually is.

Yeah, Marshall is an uptempo guy. Not great in the 1/2 court, streaky shooter, and so-so at best on defense.

I'm a Tarheel guy so I'm a little biased on him.

 

[Louie26]

Any word on coaching vacancy?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Any word on coaching vacancy?

I'm hoping we hear something in the next couple of days.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Plays both ends of the floor, shoots 40%+ from 3 point range and is young enough to still have good upside. Plus, don't the Lakers have some guy coming down to the last of couple of seasons of his career that's supposed to be pretty good. Maybe Klay can learn a couple of things from that guy re: creating his own shot, etc.?

I'd say he's probably worth it.

If Embiid isn't available and the Lakers aren't confident about the remaining big men in the draft then I'd definitely take that. The Lakers have been in need of a perimeter defender for a while, Kobe cannot guard the best player on the opposing team AND shoulder the load on the offensive end, he's not that young anymore, he needs somebody to take the pressure off on that end of the court.

 

[trojanfan12]

If Embiid isn't available and the Lakers aren't confident about the remaining big men in the draft then I'd definitely take that. The Lakers have been in need of a perimeter defender for a while, Kobe cannot guard the best player on the opposing team AND shoulder the load on the offensive end, he's not that young anymore, he needs somebody to take the pressure off on that end of the court.

IF it were to happen and that's a big and unlikely if, what about a lineup that looks a little like this (depending on who they re-sign of course)?

C - Hill/Sacre

PF - Pau/Kelly

SF - Kobe/Xavier

SG - Thompson/Swaggy P

PG - Farmar/Marshall/Whatever's left of Nash

Fill out the roster with whomever the Lakers get in the draft and some other veteran FA's or young FA's from last year like Bazemore, Wes Johnson, etc. If Nash can be convinced to just retire, may be bring Steve Blake back too.

Maybe not a contender, but they'd be fun to watch and would probably be a playoff team.


Interesting article:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...n-win-for-la-lakers-and-golden-state-warriors