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The #7 pick

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Had surgery to repair stress fracture in foot. I had a similar thing done to me a few years back. It healed fine and i never notice it anymore. I think it took 2 weeks in a boot and a month total for it to heal fully. I don't even know how i fractured it.

If he falls to 7 I would draft him. It might be risky, but it is worth that risk to get a franchise center.
 

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Not sold on randle. Size is more of a question than foot to me. 6-9? Seems another Brandon bass type player not bad but probably not top 10 worthy

Did you watch Randle play? He is no Bradon bass.
 

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Had surgery to repair stress fracture in foot. I had a similar thing done to me a few years back. It healed fine and i never notice it anymore. I think it took 2 weeks in a boot and a month total for it to heal fully. I don't even know how i fractured it.

If he falls to 7 I would draft him. It might be risky, but it is worth that risk to get a franchise center.

With all due respect Hangman, don't know you, but did you put the amount of pressure and stress of running up and down for 82 + games that Embiid would??
 

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Had surgery to repair stress fracture in foot. I had a similar thing done to me a few years back. It healed fine and i never notice it anymore. I think it took 2 weeks in a boot and a month total for it to heal fully. I don't even know how i fractured it.

If he falls to 7 I would draft him. It might be risky, but it is worth that risk to get a franchise center.

Are you 7 ft. tall and playing in the NBA? Not trying to be a smartass, but a stress fracture on us regular folks can be a lot different than on a 7 footer under the wear and tear of playing 82+ games per season in the NBA.
 

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Pass. 1st his back, now his foot? Those are only the 2 most debilitating injuries for a big. Even if he checks out ok now, how do we know we're not talking about injuries that will be a problem throughout his career?

Andrew Bynum checked out ok after his 1st knee injury. Turns out he has some condition in both knees where he'll never be close to the player he was pre-injury.

The back doesn't worry me that much. That injury heals up fine with proper treatment and indications have been so far that it is. Andre Drummond had the same injury and has shown no ill effects. The foot thing is more concerning though. Foot injuries totally wrecked Yao Ming and Big Z's (I'm not looking his name up to spell it, lol) careers. So you've got to be very cautious. But on the flip side, Blake Griffin had a similar issue, had surgery, sat out a year, and has been fine. And while he's not as tall as Embiid, I'd be willing to guess his explosiveness likely puts as much stress on his foot as Embiid would. This is where you really have to pay attention to your doctors and see the real details of the injuries. It's possible Embiid's body can't handle it. But it's also probable both injuries are just freak occurrences and he's not injury prone (sort of how like Westbrook just caught a bad break recently).

At #7, I'd take him if he fell. The upside is just too high. And if he does fall, the guys we have been targeting anyway (like Exum, Smart, Vonleh,etc) could likely be gone. FWIW, I don't think he falls that far. I can still see a team like Philly or Orlando taking him. To me, its a no brainer. Both teams aren't going to be good in the near future anyway so just take the risk. If it works out, you got a potential HOFer. If it doesn't, you were gonna suck anyway.
 

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The back doesn't worry me that much. That injury heals up fine with proper treatment and indications have been so far that it is. Andre Drummond had the same injury and has shown no ill effects. The foot thing is more concerning though. Foot injuries totally wrecked Yao Ming and Big Z's (I'm not looking his name up to spell it, lol) careers. So you've got to be very cautious. But on the flip side, Blake Griffin had a similar issue, had surgery, sat out a year, and has been fine. And while he's not as tall as Embiid, I'd be willing to guess his explosiveness likely puts as much stress on his foot as Embiid would. This is where you really have to pay attention to your doctors and see the real details of the injuries. It's possible Embiid's body can't handle it. But it's also probable both injuries are just freak occurrences and he's not injury prone (sort of how like Westbrook just caught a bad break recently).

At #7, I'd take him if he fell. The upside is just too high. And if he does fall, the guys we have been targeting anyway (like Exum, Smart, Vonleh,etc) could likely be gone. FWIW, I don't think he falls that far. I can still see a team like Philly or Orlando taking him. To me, its a no brainer. Both teams aren't going to be good in the near future anyway so just take the risk. If it works out, you got a potential HOFer. If it doesn't, you were gonna suck anyway.

I don't disagree, but when a guy has BOTH?! Could this mean he's injury prone? I'm no GM, but that's gotta be something I'd be thinking about.
 

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Are you 7 ft. tall and playing in the NBA? Not trying to be a smartass, but a stress fracture on us regular folks can be a lot different than on a 7 footer under the wear and tear of playing 82+ games per season in the NBA.

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I don't disagree, but when a guy has BOTH?! Could this mean he's injury prone? I'm no GM, but that's gotta be something I'd be thinking about.

It is, it's just a matter of your comfort level. Since it's two different parts of his body, it's very unlikely they're related, thus increasing the chance its just pure coincidence the injuries happened at all and so close together timewise. But if he injured his foot and then his knee on the same leg or something, that would be a huge red flag.
 

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The suspense is killing me!! SI this week has us taking Vonleh at 7. Personally, I'd rather have Randle or Vonleh and possibly resign Pau. Maybe get a FA point and build with that.

Having said that, I doubt Vonleh falls to us, but if Vonleh AND Randle are there at 7, who do we take??


Oh, we also need a coach, that'd be nice too.
 

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It is, it's just a matter of your comfort level. Since it's two different parts of his body, it's very unlikely they're related, thus increasing the chance its just pure coincidence the injuries happened at all and so close together timewise. But if he injured his foot and then his knee on the same leg or something, that would be a huge red flag.

These injuries are a red flag. I have seen this movie too many times to take a chance.
 

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I like the Thad Young, Michael Carter-Williams and Nash's exp-contract for the number 7 pick trade talk. I would do that in a second.
 

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I like the Thad Young, Michael Carter-Williams and Nash's exp-contract for the number 7 pick trade talk. I would do that in a second.

lol @ that offer on the Sixers side
Why in the world would the Sixers do that trade? It makes no sense at all for them

The Sixers do not want Nash. Why would they? They have rookie of the year MCW
And while it is rumored that Thad Young is on the trade block some of those rumors are the Sixers dangling him as part of a package to get the #1 pick

Lakers have no one on their roster that the Sixers want from what I can see. Heck they have already had Nick Young and Jodie Meeks.

The only valuable asset the Lakers have is the #7 pick and I don't see any way that the Sixers give up Young and MCW for that #7 and the Lakers pawning that dinosaur Nash off on them??? :laugh3:

:nono:
 

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lol @ that offer on the Sixers side
Why in the world would the Sixers do that trade? It makes no sense at all for them

The Sixers do not want Nash. Why would they? They have rookie of the year MCW
And while it is rumored that Thad Young is on the trade block some of those rumors are the Sixers dangling him as part of a package to get the #1 pick

Lakers have no one on their roster that the Sixers want from what I can see. Heck they have already had Nick Young and Jodie Meeks.

The only valuable asset the Lakers have is the #7 pick and I don't see any way that the Sixers give up Young and MCW for that #7 and the Lakers pawning that dinosaur Nash off on them??? :laugh3:

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Do you understand expiring contracts? That is what Nash would be. That is your dumb Philadelphia radio 97.5 talking. You would have the 3,7,10 pick.
 
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I like the Thad Young, Michael Carter-Williams and Nash's exp-contract for the number 7 pick trade talk. I would do that in a second.

I just read that too:

Lakers Rumors: Steve Nash, Draft Pick For Carter-Williams, Young? | Lakers Nation

And I would do it in a heartbeat. Carter-Williams is a proven player. He is one of only 3 players in NBA history to average 16 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists in a rookie season - the other players being Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson. He's young (22 years old), athletic and would THRIVE in LA.

Plus we lose Nash's contract. Bonus!
 

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I just read that too:

Lakers Rumors: Steve Nash, Draft Pick For Carter-Williams, Young? | Lakers Nation

And I would do it in a heartbeat. Carter-Williams is a proven player. He is one of only 3 players in NBA history to average 16 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists in a rookie season - the other players being Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson. He's young (22 years old), athletic and would THRIVE in LA.

Plus we lose Nash's contract. Bonus!

Seems to be too good to be true. But if it is true, it's a decent deal right?
 
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Seems to be too good to be true. But if it is true, it's a decent deal right?

Especially if we get Thaddeus Young in the deal too. He's not the greatest PF in the league but he averaged almost 18ppg last year.
 

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Well the break was very bad. 2 screws out for 6 months and it is a bone that plagued Bill Walton and Yau Ming. He might not even go in the top 10 anymore and this is horrible news. Now the Lakers will get an even worse player as instead of the big 3 its down to the big 2 draftees.
 

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That Sixers deal isn't a home run. It's more like a double. I'm not even sure how it makes any sense at all for the Sixers. It's not like they need Nash's expiring, they've got cap room. Half their team are/will be on rookie salaries. As for LA, we do need starter level players. We basically trotted out an entire roster full bench guys all of last year. And MCW and Young are starter level talents. I'm just not sold on MCW having as high of upside. His numbers are inflated because that Sixers team literally had no other options at all. From seeing him in college and in the NBA, I still feel like his ceiling is just quality starter that might possibly flirt with an all star game or two (type of player like Andre Miller, Mike Conley, etc). Pretty solid deal to get two starters.

But I also like Randolph at #7 (where a lot of projections have him) and think his ceiling is a lot higher than both Young and MCW. We've got cap room to sign other starts too. So while the trade might be a double, I think drafting Randolph alone could be a double as well.
 
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