I liked the trade at the time but no doubt believed it could bite us. Obviously still could if Mitchell chooses to leave and/or just cannot get where we hope to go. But it's year 2. Not like we are in year 10 with the guy and have never even made the ECF.
I’m 110% on the money. Adding Mitchell to Garland has quelled the development of Mobley.
Cannot recall the year 3 Raptors and don't feel like looking but doubt Bosh was playing with as much talent as Mobley has around him. Mobley also a better defender than year 3 Bosh. Maybe much better? don't recall.
True.
I do think it's fair to say Mobley needs to be the one to be more assertive or even aggressive but that's on him and the type of guy he might be. Not on Mitchell.
any reasonable/rational person can see legit progress. You just failed again and wont own you failed.
yeah, that's not how things work...those games count, too. Outside of our latest 7-13 stretch without our best player and 2-3 other starters in many of these games we are 39-23.
as long as you ignore he's getting better in many areas, more efficient, etc. sure thing sport.
I know...I was referring more to how that could hurt or benefit the play in teams that are still jockeying for position this final week.
Is this a serious comment? goin up a whopping 4 points because he's on a terrible team means he has developed more? Clearly the type of game he has has not led to winning. What happened in year 2 when there was pretty much no improvement anywhere?
It's actually not but did you catch when Barnes still had some decent teammates around him in year 2 he showed very little improvement anywhere? Might even say he regressed a little in year 2. should the cavs go into a rebuild and just trade Mitchell as well as maybe allen so Mobley can score a few more points?
Barnes was the number one option prior to OG and Siakam getting dealt.
didn't really need to see what Bosh had done as I knew he took a big leap. Decided to look and see what I wanted to know and sure enough it seems clear why Bosh may have scored more points.....his fellow starters (by most games started) were Mo Peterson, Mike James, Charlie Villanueva and some guy named Rafael Araujo. Others who had 20+ starts were Joey Graham, Pape snow and a regressing Jalen Rose (hit 40% overall and 27% from 3). Bosh took 15 shots/game that year (same as Mike James) and made 50.5%. Mobley does only take 11 but makes 58% of them. he was in the 12-13 range before he was hurt and minutes were cut (still making 58% or so of his shots).
and why did he regress so much in year 2.....never mind clearly his style of play as the best player on a team does not exactly lead to winning.
actually, we saw him first...but I guess you saw him most recently.
So, the criteria for comparison has to be 3rd year guy’s improvement playing on a good team?
I don’t see regression. I see stagnation years 1 to 2 for Barnes. Are you critical of that circumstance?
