Yet other players differ as he has been to a PB and they account for much of the vote. I've also never been a fan of Greggggggggg as a DC so who knows what a different scheme might do (Collins was better it seemed when he played before Williams was here).
Not playing well, and not being good are not the same when it comes to him. Which, yes, is an issue. But when the guy is motivated he was our best LB. why not wait and see what happens with the new DC. Maybe he just got tired of being coached by a screaming fake toughguy who was not a good coach?
I'm fine with the move, just saying I might have waited. Not like the are lacking in cap space for THIS season. He is still arguably better than all their LBs for sure he is when motivated. See what kind of attitude he has in camp with the new teammates and coaches. Not what you want, OK, cut him.
At the end of the day, having inconsistent effort coupled with him not being a Dorsey guy is what did him in. I think it was becoming evident that he wasn't going to be on the team this year, so they cut ties early to get focused, especially going into the draft.
No doubt that's how it went down. Just thinking it could have waited. There was no rush as they have plenty of cap room. could have been other leaders in the locker room who said he's a cancer and if that's the case, OK, no need to have him around at all. But never heard that.
I don't know that he was even a "cancer", so to speak. I haven't really heard much about him as a person. It was strictly production on the field. He was the 58th rated LB last year making the 7th most money in the league at the position. Regardless of our depth, it was the right move IMO. There are better options out there.
agreed (with first part, hard to know they made the right choice), but they can get rid of him later and save on the salary. In addition, this is a year to compete, right? If player A has better value, but player B is a better player for THIS year I want player B.....so long as his salary doesn't prevent other moves I'd make. If other players in locker room want him out, that's another story.
Might be...but so far that guy isn't on the roster. And I think we both agree his production was lack of effort, not ability. On a bad team it's a no-brainer to let him go.
I would've been just OK if he kept him, but I'm far happier seeing him gone. I'm pretty sure I even said as much before he was cut. His ability was there, but I don't see some huge leap in effort coming from him. Think about it - the Patriots were happy to send him packing. That should say something.
But that could have been about money. We didn't need to worry about money this year. are you also thinking BB doesn't make mistakes either? Isn't to say trading Collins for him was a mistake, but just because he did does not mean Collins cannot play.
Having two of the brightest minds in the game from a talent evaluation/investment standpoint give up on a guy is a pretty bad look. As far as the money goes, you're right, we don't need it this year. I don't think the move was about the money, other than Dorsey had a problem overpaying a guy who gives inconsistent effort.
and I don't disagree, was only throwing it out there nothing to lose by waiting.
It's an odd time. I'm shocked nobody has signed guys like Zach Brown, Suh, Zeke Ansah, Tre Boston, etc., but I guess it's not that big a deal since we're still in April. I can't say there was nothing to lose by keeping him, you're right. I just don't think there was anything to gain.
I loved seeing all of the "source close to the Browns organization" or "person close to Dorsey" statements about how we were taking Allen, then Darnold, then Allen, then trading the pick, then maybe Rosen, then Allen again, and then Mayfield.
Funniest thing is when fans hear these reports and flip out as though they happened.
Yep...and he changed it when everyone knew, didn't he?
