Texas Rangers 2022 - 2023 Offseason Thread

[Kelleyman]

We’re we at 39 or 49 please

Ok we were at 39 so no room on roster as of now going into rule 5

 

[armadillooutlaw]

This FO is going all-in like never before.
If they get Rodón or Senga, the Rangers rotation could very well be on par with the Mariners and Astros.
DeGrom-Rodon/Senga-Perez-Gray-Odorizzi.
That type of rotation, along with a young and improving offense, hopefully bringing Matt Moore back plus adding a guy like Otto or Dunning to the bullpen, and this team could definitely compete for a wild card spot this year, and with a ton of talented prospects working up the system, could definitely see this team competing for a WS by 2024 or 2025.

 

[saddles]

We’re we at 39 or 49 please

40 now. I thought 40 before, but I guess not.

 

[DTC]

 

[saddles]

subtle dig against the Rangers with the clearly intentional ordering of those teams

Notice, he puts the Rangers first in the Heaney market.

 

[DTC]

Notice, he puts the Rangers first in the Heaney market.

I wouldn’t mind Heaney.
He scrapped his sinker and pretty much goes with a fastball/Slider mix that seems to be helping other pitchers.
Only question I would have is health..

It seems like a lot of analytic depts are noticing some pitchers that have velocity and can be more effective by not throwing certain pitches.

If hitters waited for your change up and knew to swing under your sinkers they can get the advantage.

But if they can throw a mean slider and some gas and locate well it’s a lot harder to hit

 

[saddles]

I wouldn’t mind Heaney.
He scrapped his sinker and pretty much goes with a fastball/Slider mix that seems to be helping other pitchers.
Only question I would have is health..

It seems like a lot of analytic depts are noticing some pitchers that have velocity and can be more effective by not throwing certain pitches.

If hitters waited for your change up and knew to swing under your sinkers they can get the advantage.

But if they can throw a mean slider and some gas and locate well it’s a lot harder to hit

I don't want him. I would rather trust Ragans than him. He only went 6 innings twice last year. Mostly, 4 and 5 inning outings. He has had a lot of bad years.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Heyman has chosen violence.

 

[DTC]

I don't want him. I would rather trust Ragans than him. He only went 6 innings twice last year. Mostly, 4 and 5 inning outings. He has had a lot of bad years.

Those bad years were prior to revamping his pitch repertoire
Perez had a lot of bad years prior too
I believe lol

 

[saddles]

Those bad years were prior to revamping his pitch repertoire
Perez had a lot of bad years prior too
I believe lol

Last year Perez pitched twice as many games and a whole lot more innings. Half way through 2022, I wasn't sold on Perez either.

Perez made it through 6 innings 26 times. Heaney did so 2 times.

You aren't sold on Perez, but you are on Heaney.

 

[Hambombs]

Heaney is alright lol 3-4 guy

 

[Hambombs]

Nah perez is a decent mid rotation guy

 

[DTC]

Last year Perez pitched twice as many games and a whole lot more innings. Half way through 2022, I wasn't sold on Perez either.

You aren't sold on Perez, but you are on Heaney.

I like Heaney bc he has velocity and a good slider and is now using that mix
1.08 whip is pretty nice
I am worried about his health tho
If it takes 4 years I don’t wanna do that
But if we can get him on 3 I’m ok

 

[saddles]

I like Heaney bc he has velocity and a good slider and is now using that mix
1.08 whip is pretty nice
I am worried about his health tho
If it takes 4 years I don’t wanna do that
But if we can get him on 3 I’m ok

It is a lot easier to put up good numbers in very small sample sizes. I want a pitcher who can make it past the 4th or 5th inning on a regular basis.

 

[saddles]

I like Heaney bc he has velocity and a good slider and is now using that mix
1.08 whip is pretty nice
I am worried about his health tho
If it takes 4 years I don’t wanna do that
But if we can get him on 3 I’m ok

By the middle of 2023 we will have several young pitchers who would serve us better in the rotation than Heaney over the next couple of years. We have a couple now.

 

[saddles]

Total Quality Starts in 2022

Andrew Heaney -- 2
Glenn Otto --7
Dane Dunning -- 10

 

[WilltheThrill]

Last year Perez pitched twice as many games and a whole lot more innings. Half way through 2022, I wasn't sold on Perez either.

Perez made it through 6 innings 26 times. Heaney did so 2 times.

You aren't sold on Perez, but you are on Heaney.

You’re under-selling Heaney. He was injured for a lot of the year, which means the comparison to Perez isn’t a fair one. I know quite a bit about Heaney because he’s on my dynasty league fantasy team, and I watched almost every one of his starts last year.

The knock on Heaney is that he doesn’t pitch to contact enough. His K/9 ratio is off the charts because he’s got nasty stuff and too often insists on striking out hitters, which often leads to high pitch counts in the early innings.

I hear your concerns regarding his inability to pitch late into games, and it’s certainly a valid one. If both pitchers were to replicate their performances from last season, I’d take Perez in a heartbeat as well. But 2023 isn’t 2022, and Heaney’s talent is undeniable. I would be very interested to see what Maddux could get out of him, especially if he could instill in him the ability to trust his fielders behind him. He wouldn’t be my first choice, but he would be a definite upgrade over Odorizzi, Otto, Dunning, or any other pitcher they have for their #5 slot. And he has the definite potential to be better than Perez and Gray as well.

 

[WilltheThrill]

Total Quality Starts in 2022

Andrew Heaney -- 2
Glenn Otto --7
Dane Dunning -- 10

Again, that’s purposely misleading. Heaney missed a huge chunk of last season.

 

[saddles]

Again, that’s purposely misleading. Heaney missed a huge chunk of last season.

Him missing so much is a big factor. Besides Otto and Dunning also missed part of the season.

Even if you double Heaney's quality starts he is still behind those guys. Each of them started right at twice as many games as he did.

 

[saddles]

I would be very interested to see what Maddux could get out of him,

The same could be said of any pitcher couldn't it? Even Perez, Dunning, and Otto. It could be said of any pitcher without the injury concerns as well. There are other pitchers to be had without those concerns.