Texas Rangers 2021 - 2022 Offseason Thread

[True Rangers Fan]

It looks like we will shift from accumulating prospects to trading for players already in the big leagues. If we do trade a big league player, I think we will trade them for other big league players and not guys to put in Frisco. We may well see 4 or 5 prospects traded this winter for big league players.

Where are you getting this from?

 

[saddles]

Where are you getting this from?

The feeling has grown from what I have been reading that is coming from the front office over the last few weeks. The following quote from Chris Young being the latest.

"We’re exploring both the free-agent market and the trade market,” Young acknowledged. “I think that there’s a number of ways that we can look to improve our club and we’re exploring all avenues."

 

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The Baseball Offseason Has Arrived. Here Are the Rangers Who Aren't Going Anywhere.

You can, and should, expect to hear a lot of trade rumors about the Rangers. Consider this your one-stop shop for which ones to ignore.

www.dmagazine.com

Not for sale, but we won’t hang up (so not really untouchable)

This group includes players who, over the last two years, have earned some level of confidence from the Rangers that they could be contributors to better days ahead—but who, in the right realistic scenario, would be available.

The Rangers wouldn’t shut down talks if the Athletics were to ask for the remaining two years of Isiah Kiner-Falefa control in a multiplayer deal for first baseman Matt Olson, or if the Reds insisted on Adolis Garcia and Joe Barlow as secondary pieces in a Luis Castillo trade. But Kiner-Falefa, Garcia, and Barlow are certainly part of the plan here in the meantime.

Aside from those three, here are some others who might fit that category—that is, players whose nameplates are above the line on the front office whiteboard unless the right impact-trade opportunity were to come along:

• major-league starting pitcher Spencer Howard and relievers Jonathan Hernandez, Jose Leclerc, and Nick Snyder
• major-league catchers Jonah Heim, Jose Trevino, and Sam Huff; infielders Nate Lowe, Andy Ibanez, Nick Solak, and Sherten Apostel; and outfielder Leody Taveras
• pitching prospects Dane Acker, Cody Bradford, Mason Englert, Ronny Henriquez, Cole Ragans, Yerry Rodriguez, Justin Slaten, and Avery Weems
• position-player prospects Maximo Acosta, Luisangel Acuna, Cam Cauley, David Garcia, Trevor Hauver, Yeison Morrobel, Thomas Saggese, Chris Seise, Bubba Thompson, Steele Walker, and Aaron Zavala

 

[True Rangers Fan]

The feeling has grown from what I have been reading that is coming from the front office over the last few weeks. The following quote from Chris Young being the latest.

"We’re exploring both the free-agent market and the trade market,” Young acknowledged. “I think that there’s a number of ways that we can look to improve our club and we’re exploring all avenues."

Personally, that sounds like the standard boilerplate "Nuke LaLoosh" blurbs that the media is fed on a regular basis. Nothing about that suggests a change of plans as far as rebuilding, at least as far as what my expectations/understandings were.

 

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I really, really disagree with Jamey Newberg and what he says in the article. I don't think I have ever read so much in one article of his that I have disagreed with this strongly.

 

[saddles]

Personally, that sounds like the standard boilerplate "Nuke LaLoosh" blurbs that the media is fed on a regular basis. Nothing about that suggests a change of plans as far as rebuilding, at least as far as what my expectations/understandings were.

Are you saying we won't be trading prospects for veterans this winter?

It may be blurbs to feed the media, but we haven't heard blurbs like that in some time.

 

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I did agree with Newberg in this one paragraph. Although, the idea that Smoak was on par with any of these six guys is ridiculous.

Jung will be the first of the six in Arlington. Winn is likely to follow, with Leiter not far behind. Vanasco is probably next, then White, then Roby. There’s certainly the chance that one of them plays the role of Smoak when the Rangers find themselves on the cusp of something parade-worthy, but in the meantime, they’re probably as likely as any players in the organization to be around for the whole ride.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

I really, really disagree with Jamey Newberg and what he says in the article. I don't think I have ever read so much in one article of his that I have disagreed with this strongly.

"Dane Dunning is the only lock to begin the 2022 season in the rotation" is where I stopped reading.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Are you saying we won't be trading prospects for veterans this winter?

It may be blurbs to feed the media, but we haven't heard blurbs like that in some time.

I'm saying that I've always assumed the FO will be exploring every possible option to improving the team, including trading prospects for veterans. Them acknowledging that possibility to the media doesn't come as a surprise to me, because I already assumed it was one of several options.

 

[saddles]

I'm saying that I've always assumed the FO will be exploring every possible option to improving the team, including trading prospects for veterans. Them acknowledging that possibility to the media doesn't come as a surprise to me, because I already assumed it was one of several options.

Other than trading for guys with very little big league playing time, we haven't done that in awhile. When we do trade for a guy who only has 2 or 3 years of control left, that will mark a change to me. I get a sense that that is coming and when it does it will mark a change of course.

Maybe you thought that has been a possibility all along, but I haven't. I guess that is why I would view it as a major shift and you wouldn't.

 

[Kelleyman]

I'm saying that I've always assumed the FO will be exploring every possible option to improving the team, including trading prospects for veterans. Them acknowledging that possibility to the media doesn't come as a surprise to me, because I already assumed it was one of several options.

They are going to keep the specifics close to the best. Almost 100% on active roster could be traded if anyone wants them

Really don’t get the affinity some writers have for active players as if they will offend them to suggest they may be on the trade block.

Too much fraternalization IMO. His work has diminished to me. Thinking of unsubscribing

 

[True Rangers Fan]

Other than trading for guys with very little big league playing time, we haven't done that in awhile. When we do trade for a guy who only has 2 or 3 years of control left, that will mark a change to me. I get a sense that that is coming and when it does it will mark a change of course.

Maybe you thought that has been a possibility all along, but I haven't. I guess that is why I would view it as a major shift and you wouldn't.

I should also mention that the CY era has also seemed like it has a "new sheriff in town" vibe to me. Bringing in new people, and in some cases, creating new job titles altogether. Things are going to be run a little differently now in the FO, so I expect they will do some things we aren't used to.

EDIT: I don't mean to suggest CY is in complete control of things. I just mean the Rangers are adding new and different voices to the war room, so we should assume that some of the outcomes will be different from what we've expected from them in the past.

 

[saddles]

They are going to keep the specifics close to the best. Almost 100% on active roster could be traded if anyone wants them

Really don’t get the affinity some writers have for active players as if they will offend them to suggest they may be on the trade block.

Too much fraternalization IMO. His work has diminished to me. Thinking of unsubscribing

He is not writing for The Athletic right now. He us writing for D Magazine. He is supposed to be on pause at The Athletic for the rest of the year.

 

[saddles]

They are going to keep the specifics close to the best. Almost 100% on active roster could be traded if anyone wants them

Really don’t get the affinity some writers have for active players as if they will offend them to suggest they may be on the trade block.

Too much fraternalization IMO. His work has diminished to me. Thinking of unsubscribing

I guess that is why he chose to not respond to my trade proposal a few days ago. I had the audacity to suggest trading Lowe and IKF for 2 prospects. lol

 

[True Rangers Fan]

 

[saddles]

If the Rangers get shut out of the SS market what package of acquisitions is an appropriate alternative?

I would think Bryant or Freeman would have to be the centerpiece. And yes, I know how unlikely Freeman is, but they might need to accomplish something highly unlikely if the fail in landing one of the three shortstops.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

If the Rangers get shut out of the SS market what package of acquisitions is an appropriate alternative?

I would think Bryant or Freeman would have to be the centerpiece. And yes, I know how unlikely Freeman is, but they might need to accomplish something highly unlikely if the fail in landing one of the three shortstops.

Castellanos I think has to be up there.

 

[saddles]

The Yankees have reportedly already spoken to the representatives for Seager and Correa. Rizzo too.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

 

[saddles]

I just don't get what they are stuck on this time. Is it just where the luxury tax begins?