Texas Rangers 2021 - 2022 Offseason Thread

[Duane1952]

Man, crazy the Dodgers won 106 games and gave to play in the Wild Card..

Was thinking the same thing. Hard to believe.

 

[Kelleyman]

Hearn, Dunning, Otto, Allard, Alexy, Latz, King, Henriquez, Rodriguez, Arihara. That leaves out Burke and Palumbo who will probably be non-tendered and re-signed to minor league deals. It also leaves out an upper level starter who might be acquired via trade at some point. Cody is supposed to be back in the second half. Winn will be ready at some point in the second half next year if bot sooner. Then there is a chance young guys who already have some AA experience might push their way to the top, like Kent or Bradford. There is also a good chance thatvthey sign some just in case guys to minor league deals for emergencies.

There are plenty of young pitchers to give us innings if we are dedicated to the right kind of rebuild.

If we acquire other starters we might win a half dozen or more games than we probably would if we go with all youngsters. That is no big deal at all.

Some like Winn and King are on severe innings limit. Others are somewhat limited. My guess is we get one FA pitcher

Your math starts out with a flaw if we are discussing starters. They might average 5 innings a start.

Like I posted above, we already have more than 10.

No innings eaters required unless you are talking about bullpen innings eaters.

i thought that was obvious it includes relievers.
And the 10 you mentioned will not eat on innings and a guy like Allard and the last 4 will not have starter innings. Would not be surprised and do think it prudent to get one pitcher.

 

[saddles]

Some like Winn and King are on severe innings limit. Others are somewhat limited. My guess is we get one FA pitcher

i thought that was obvious it includes relievers.
And the 10 you mentioned will not eat on innings and a guy like Allard and the last 4 will not have starter innings. Would not be surprised and do think it prudent to get one pitcher.

It wouldn't be that hard at all to work out if it was desired by those in charge to work it out. I doubt it will be desired.

 

[saddles]

Some like Winn and King are on severe innings limit. Others are somewhat limited. My guess is we get one FA pitcher

i thought that was obvious it includes relievers.
And the 10 you mentioned will not eat on innings and a guy like Allard and the last 4 will not have starter innings. Would not be surprised and do think it prudent to get one pitcher.

If they brought in a starter and the same thing happened to him as it did to Kluber, they certainly wouldn't throw up their hands and say, "well that means we have to quit playing baseball after 120 games." No, they would simply find a way to cycle guys in and out and make it work.

 

[saddles]

 

[saddles]

 

[True Rangers Fan]

cards lose. All is right with the world again

 

[scotsman1948]

Our roster has room for additions.
We don’t have 3 pitchers ready in the minors.
Just 1 so far really (Winn)
We also don’t have 6-7 position players in the minors that are ready either.
Jung, Crim then a bunch of maybes in Bubba, J Smith, Foscue and Huff.

We’re not going to have 5 SP on our current roster get 200 innings each.
We’re not going to have 9 position players on our roster get a deserving 650 plat appearances each either.

I don’t want to sign 6 position players and 4 SP

I think the perfect balance would be sign 2 position players SS and OF and 1 SP then trade for a catcher and a SP.

Still leaves room for Jung @3B.
Someone from our current team at 2B
Leaves Lowe at 1B
Adolis in RF/CF
Calhoun/Peters
And plenty of young pitchers

i agreed until you added the "trade for a catcher and a SP". and it's time to move on from Calhoun

 

[DTC]

i agreed until you added the "trade for a catcher and a SP". and it's time to move on from Calhoun

I would let Calhoun DH until Huff is ready to get promoted from the minors. May-June next year?
If Calhoun isn’t doing well-bye- if he is doing well and Adolis continues to be a .225 .600 ops hitter like he was all year except The month of May then I would say bye to Adolis and move Calhoun to LF and Huff to DH/C.
I would like one of the current catchers to start the year as the back up/ splitting time with another starting catcher we acquire. Once Huff comes up either keep Heim/Trevino and assume Huff is the full time DH or get rid of them and let Huff start at catcher 25-30 times when the schedule doesn’t have many days off to keep the starter fresh.

And yeah I want 2 SP- if everyone is doing well, that’s a good problem to have. I want a legit pitching staff. Not a mediocre one that relies on being lucky and perfect in order to produce a few good starters. I want there to be plenty of competition and the best man wins. By mid year and down the stretch it would work out to where the best 5 are pitching.

 

[DTC]

It sounds like the Rangers are ready to spend according to their market-$180 million a year?
I know they won’t do it all in one off-season. They’re projected $50 million to start 2022 and $25 mil to start 2023.
If they added $85 mill a year this off-season that would put them at $135 mil then drop to $115 mil to start 2023 leaving plenty more to add additional player next off-season as well.

Right or wrong.. I am curious who y’all would want to sign if you were told to go out and get 3-5 players with $85 million a year basically.

Who would you sign??

Again, some don’t want to do this approach, I get that. We just lost 100+ games..
Just want to know who you would get with the allocated money ownership is asking you to turn this thing around quick.. here’s some $$.

Who you getting?

 

[saddles]

It sounds like the Rangers are ready to spend according to their market-$180 million a year?
I know they won’t do it all in one off-season. They’re projected $50 million to start 2022 and $25 mil to start 2023.
If they added $85 mill a year this off-season that would put them at $135 mil then drop to $115 mil to start 2023 leaving plenty more to add additional player next off-season as well.

Right or wrong.. I am curious who y’all would want to sign if you were told to go out and get 3-5 players with $85 million a year basically.

Who would you sign??

Again, some don’t want to do this approach, I get that. We just lost 100+ games..
Just want to know who you would get with the allocated money ownership is asking you to turn this thing around quick.. here’s some $$.

Who you getting?

Lol. This is an odd assignment because it goes against what I think is best. I might be tempted to sign a couple of guys we need into the future like Story and Taylor and then get creative with the rest. Force me to spend more and I might be tempted to see which older pitcher I can get on a two or three year deal and sign another older player or two who will be gone in 2 or three years, like Nelson Cruz. That way I get to spend that money again later on like I really think is best.

I might even be tempted just to sign a couple of guys and front load their contracts to an extreme so I can placate ownership with the budget for 2022. That way I can spend heavily in 2022 like they want and then spend more in a year or two when it is more prudent.

Then again, if I get to do just like I want to do, I sign Story and maybe Taylor or Conforto and I am probably done for this year as far as major FA signings go. If a really good older pitcher wants a 2 year deal with an option or two I would seriously consider that as well.

 

[DTC]

Lol. This is an odd assignment because it goes against what I think is best. I might be tempted to sign a couple of guys we need into the future like Story and Taylor and then get creative with the rest. Force me to spend more and I might be tempted to see which older pitcher I can get on a two or three year deal and sign another older player or two who will be gone in 2 or three years, like Nelson Cruz. That way I get to spend that money again later on like I really think is best.

I might even be tempted just to sign a couple of guys and front load their contracts to an extreme so I can placate ownership with the budget for 2022. That way I can spend heavily in 2022 like they want and then spend more in a year or two when it is more prudent.

Then again, if I get to do just like I want to do, I sign Story and maybe Taylor or Conforto and I am probably done for this year as far as major FA signings go. If a really good older pitcher wants a 2 year deal with an option or two I would seriously consider that as well.

I would go after the younger players too.
Correa, Seager, Story, Stroman, Gausman, Conforto, Schwarber, Castellanos.
They should all be around 4-5+ years.
I imagine 2023 will be a very competitive year for us. With Jung and Winn moving to a productive part of their mlb career.
There are others too.

 

[saddles]

Jeff Wilson had this to say this morning.

"Huff will not catch in AFL games but is in the midst of a catching progression during instructs that will have him catching full time by spring training."

That is good to know.

 

[saddles]

I would be fine with this lineup for the 2024 season. It requires targeting 4 free agents(maybe 1 or 2 more for the bench). It also requires moving one of our great hitting 2B prospects to CF. It leaves a lot of depth to make some trades, if needed, at the deadline as well.

C. Huff
1B Harris
2B. Foscue
3B. Jung
SS. Story
LF. Crim
RF. Garcia
CF. Smith, Josh
DH. Free Agent

SP. Leiter
SP. Winn
SP. Vanasco
SP. White
SP. Alexy

RP. Free Agent
RP. Free Agent
RP. Snyder
RP. Barlow
RP. Dunning
RP. Hearn
RP. Rodriguez
RP. Henriquez

 

[scotsman1948]

I would be fine with this lineup for the 2024 season. It requires targeting 4 free agents(maybe 1 or 2 more for the bench). It also requires moving one of our great hitting 2B prospects to CF. It leaves a lot of depth to make some trades, if needed, at the deadline as well.

C. Huff
1B Harris
2B. Foscue
3B. Jung
SS. Story
LF. Crim
RF. Garcia
CF. Smith, Josh
DH. Free Agent

SP. Leiter
SP. Winn
SP. Vanasco
SP. White
SP. Alexy

RP. Free Agent
RP. Free Agent
RP. Snyder
RP. Barlow
RP. Dunning
RP. Hearn
RP. Rodriguez
RP. Henriquez

too far ahead for me.

 

[DTC]

I would be fine with this lineup for the 2024 season. It requires targeting 4 free agents(maybe 1 or 2 more for the bench). It also requires moving one of our great hitting 2B prospects to CF. It leaves a lot of depth to make some trades, if needed, at the deadline as well.

C. Huff
1B Harris
2B. Foscue
3B. Jung
SS. Story
LF. Crim
RF. Garcia
CF. Smith, Josh
DH. Free Agent

SP. Leiter
SP. Winn
SP. Vanasco
SP. White
SP. Alexy

RP. Free Agent
RP. Free Agent
RP. Snyder
RP. Barlow
RP. Dunning
RP. Hearn
RP. Rodriguez
RP. Henriquez

I think Josh Smith in CF would be awesome. I believe his OBP and solid speed would play nice there. Probably better overall than Bubba Thompson or Leody Taveras.
Luis Angel Acuna could also move to CF.
We also have Evan Carter, Blaine Crim, Aaron Zavala, Morrobel and Hauver who can all play OF.
Ibanez/Solak/Foscue for 2B
Jung for 3B.

Lots of quality depth. Should be able to field a competitive roster over the next year or so.

I would like to see an additional catcher added though. I like Huff in a C/DH platoon. Just in case something happens to one of them the other could fill in.

 

[Kelleyman]

Jeff Wilson had this to say this morning.

"Huff will not catch in AFL games but is in the midst of a catching progression during instructs that will have him catching full time by spring training."

That is good to know.

Jeff Wilson was puzzled re our approach to FA relief pitching. Not too up on his thoughts re lineup. But I do agree about letting pitching fully in the minors. Sometimes writers are hesitant to be critical of current players
Seems like he is big on Solak and Peters and IKF. To me there a huge question mark as future winning pieces

I am not a subscriber but have listened to the podcasts

 

[Kelleyman]

I think Josh Smith in CF would be awesome. I believe his OBP and solid speed would play nice there. Probably better overall than Bubba Thompson or Leody Taveras.
Luis Angel Acuna could also move to CF.
We also have Evan Carter, Blaine Crim, Aaron Zavala, Morrobel and Hauver who can all play OF.
Ibanez/Solak/Foscue for 2B
Jung for 3B.

Lots of quality depth. Should be able to field a competitive roster over the next year or so.

I would like to see an additional catcher added though. I like Huff in a C/DH platoon. Just in case something happens to one of them the other could fill in.

Seems like Acuna is one of the pure defense guys. Why move to OF?

 

[DTC]

Seems like Acuna is one of the pure defense guys. Why move to OF?

I think he could make a great CF.
I’m sure he will play SS well but if we sign a 6-10 year guy for SS I think acuna might move positions if he’s ready in 2 years.

 

[saddles]

Jeff Wilson was puzzled re our approach to FA relief pitching. Not too up on his thoughts re lineup. But I do agree about letting pitching fully in the minors. Sometimes writers are hesitant to be critical of current players
Seems like he is big on Solak and Peters and IKF. To me there a huge question mark as future winning pieces

I am not a subscriber but have listened to the podcasts

I think he has Solak penciled in at 2B next year instead of IKF, but I am not sure that he thinks Solak is the longterm answer.