Texas Rangers 2021 - 2022 Offseason Thread

[scotsman1948]

Wonder if Wakamatsu wants to apply for manager jobs.

Liked Ortiz but we need a better hitting coach

apparently there are a number of teams who are also laying the blame for bad hitting on their batting coaches so there will be more than the Rangers looking for a new one

 

[scotsman1948]

Yeah, the Twins thought enough of him to let him pitch in the 2020 season, but he only lasted for a third of an inning. He definitely showed promise before the injury.

will open on the 60 but will like to see what he brings

 

[saddles]

We don't need innings eaters. We need to use every game we have in 2022 to develop young starters. Yes, some cannot throw over 120 innings and others cannot throw over 160 or so. We have enough young starters that we can interchange some so as to limit all of their innings as much as we need to.

 

[scotsman1948]

Doesn't have Syndergaard from what I could tell

there's an option year that he may pass on

We don't need innings eaters. We need to use every game we have in 2022 to develop young starters. Yes, some cannot throw over 120 innings and others cannot throw over 160 or so. We have enough young starters that we can interchange some so as to limit all of their innings as much as we need to.

which is why i would like to see them use Alexy and Otto as our 5th starter using the Opener technique to limit their innings.

 

[scotsman1948]

We don't need innings eaters. We need to use every game we have in 2022 to develop young starters. Yes, some cannot throw over 120 innings and others cannot throw over 160 or so. We have enough young starters that we can interchange some so as to limit all of their innings as much as we need to.

but do we want to eat up their options doing that? expect we see a full season out of Hearn and probably Dunning. the problem will be who use at 4. it is possible we start the year with Allard at 4 and then move Latz and then possibly Howard there. and then later in the year fully expect to see Winn

 

[DTC]

I know we have Hearn, Dunning, Alexy, Otto, Winn, Allard and Latz—-& possibly D Anderson.
That’s 8 pitchers. 0 “ACE” starters(as of now) and 0 who have been over 140 innings in one season. There will be injuries, underperformance and fatigue.
It would be unwise to not acquire a couple of mlb ready pitchers.

Allard can be long relief.
Go with a 6 man
1.FA
2. FA/Trade
3.Dunning
4. Hearn
5. Alexy
6. Otto
Let D Anderson pitch 2 innings each time out. Maybe stretch it to the 3 as season progresses
Latz and Winn should probably start the year in the minors.
As the season goes on a lot of thing will happen and the depth will be needed.

If we don’t get two SP what happens if 2 of our guys get injured and 1-2 more underperform severely?
We would be really screwed.

Can never have enough pitching

 

[saddles]

I know we have Hearn, Dunning, Alexy, Otto, Winn, Allard and Latz—-& possibly D Anderson.
That’s 8 pitchers. 0 “ACE” starters(as of now) and 0 who have been over 140 innings in one season. There will be injuries, underperformance and fatigue.
It would be unwise to not acquire a couple of mlb ready pitchers.

Allard can be long relief.
Go with a 6 man
1.FA
2. FA/Trade
3.Dunning
4. Hearn
5. Alexy
6. Otto
Let D Anderson pitch 2 innings each time out. Maybe stretch it to the 3 as season progresses
Latz and Winn should probably start the year in the minors.
As the season goes on a lot of thing will happen and the depth will be needed.

If we don’t get two SP what happens if 2 of our guys get injured and 1-2 more underperform severely?
We would be really screwed.

Can never have enough pitching

You say we need two more via FA and then you immediately say we should put Allard in the pen and go with a 6 man. Don't do either of those two things and then you do not need 2 additional pitchers. You created the "need."

 

[Kelleyman]

Well we need to do the math 162 x 9= 1458 innings from our pitchers at a minimum. I am guessing a pick up of an innings eater at. We need guys at MILB for injuries etc. remember have 10 who can potentially start?

 

[saddles]

Hearn, Dunning, Otto, Allard, Alexy, Latz, King, Henriquez, Rodriguez, Arihara. That leaves out Burke and Palumbo who will probably be non-tendered and re-signed to minor league deals. It also leaves out an upper level starter who might be acquired via trade at some point. Cody is supposed to be back in the second half. Winn will be ready at some point in the second half next year if bot sooner. Then there is a chance young guys who already have some AA experience might push their way to the top, like Kent or Bradford. There is also a good chance thatvthey sign some just in case guys to minor league deals for emergencies.

There are plenty of young pitchers to give us innings if we are dedicated to the right kind of rebuild.

If we acquire other starters we might win a half dozen or more games than we probably would if we go with all youngsters. That is no big deal at all.

 

[saddles]

Well we need to do the math 162 x 9= 1458 innings from our pitchers at a minimum. I am guessing a pick up of an innings eater at. We need guys at MILB for injuries etc. remember have 10 who can potentially start?

Your math starts out with a flaw if we are discussing starters. They might average 5 innings a start.

Like I posted above, we already have more than 10.

No innings eaters required unless you are talking about bullpen innings eaters.

 

[saddles]

If we go with a 6 man then get you a placeholder to fill that 6th spot. Just remember, 6 man rotations have been tried and never work. They just never do, at least not in the long run.

 

[DTC]

Rangers Promise: Will Pay 'Market Dollars' For Big Free Agents

'We're going to have to pay market dollars in order to get top players and we're prepared to do so.' - Rangers president Jon Daniels.

www.si.com

 

[scotsman1948]

I know we have Hearn, Dunning, Alexy, Otto, Winn, Allard and Latz—-& possibly D Anderson.
That’s 8 pitchers. 0 “ACE” starters(as of now) and 0 who have been over 140 innings in one season. There will be injuries, underperformance and fatigue.
It would be unwise to not acquire a couple of mlb ready pitchers.

Allard can be long relief.
Go with a 6 man
1.FA
2. FA/Trade
3.Dunning
4. Hearn
5. Alexy
6. Otto
Let D Anderson pitch 2 innings each time out. Maybe stretch it to the 3 as season progresses
Latz and Winn should probably start the year in the minors.
As the season goes on a lot of thing will happen and the depth will be needed.

If we don’t get two SP what happens if 2 of our guys get injured and 1-2 more underperform severely?
We would be really screwed.

Can never have enough pitching

sign 1 FA starter and invite one or 2 to ST with a minor league deal.

 

[scotsman1948]

If we go with a 6 man then get you a placeholder to fill that 6th spot. Just remember, 6 man rotations have been tried and never work. They just never do, at least not in the long run.

like i said go with the Opener technique with Alexy and Otto to keep their innings down

 

[Duane1952]

Rangers Promise: Will Pay 'Market Dollars' For Big Free Agents

'We're going to have to pay market dollars in order to get top players and we're prepared to do so.' - Rangers president Jon Daniels.

www.si.com

I'll believe it, if it happens.

 

[DTC]

You say we need two more via FA and then you immediately say we should put Allard in the pen and go with a 6 man. Don't do either of those two things and then you do not need 2 additional pitchers. You created the "need."

No patience for Calhoun but patience for Allard?
I’m done with Allard. Move him to the pen.

And yes a 6 man. Or leave one of Otto/Alexy in the minors. Who ever doesn’t make the team out of spring training. Because I doubt both can pitch 170+ innings next year

 

[scotsman1948]

No patience for Calhoun but patience for Allard?
I’m done with Allard. Move him to the pen.

And yes a 6 man. Or leave one of Otto/Alexy in the minors. Who ever doesn’t make the team out of spring training. Because I doubt both can pitch 170+ innings next year

but having them pitch in the Opener format they could each reach 100

 

[saddles]

No patience for Calhoun but patience for Allard?
I’m done with Allard. Move him to the pen.

And yes a 6 man. Or leave one of Otto/Alexy in the minors. Who ever doesn’t make the team out of spring training. Because I doubt both can pitch 170+ innings next year

You are simply trying to make room for free agents so we can win a few more games in 2022. That is fine if that is what you want to do, but there is no real need to have to do that. The Rangers will probably do what you are suggesting, but to me that will be a mistake in the long run. It will cut our window shorter than it needs to be on the far side of the window. It will add a couple of years of wild card contention to the beginning and knock a few years of WS contention off of the other end.

 

[DTC]

Our roster has room for additions.
We don’t have 3 pitchers ready in the minors.
Just 1 so far really (Winn)
We also don’t have 6-7 position players in the minors that are ready either.
Jung, Crim then a bunch of maybes in Bubba, J Smith, Foscue and Huff.

We’re not going to have 5 SP on our current roster get 200 innings each.
We’re not going to have 9 position players on our roster get a deserving 650 plat appearances each either.

I don’t want to sign 6 position players and 4 SP

I think the perfect balance would be sign 2 position players SS and OF and 1 SP then trade for a catcher and a SP.

Still leaves room for Jung @3B.
Someone from our current team at 2B
Leaves Lowe at 1B
Adolis in RF/CF
Calhoun/Peters
And plenty of young pitchers

 

[DTC]

Man, crazy the Dodgers won 106 games and gave to play in the Wild Card..