I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being willing to go longer than 5 years for Rendon for now. I have a lot to complain about JD for now without borrowing anything. Lol
I don't believe they can trade Jung or Wendzel until a year after they were drafted. If you are offering Apostle and Henriquez you had better know exactly what is in those trees, and it had better be substantial and more than a 2 or 3 year stopgap. Those two can help you throughout a big chunk of the next decade, so a 2 or 3 year fix won't cut it.
Donaldson and Moustakas are 3 or 4 steps below Rendon was my point. and 23-25M AAV is well below what Rendon will get from the teams really interested in him
if the trade gets you a Starling Marte to patrol CF for 2 years with Taveras, Thompson, JPM etc then I would pull the trigger. Jung, Wendzel and Apostel are going to be battling each other for 3B so you have an excess there and the same is true about Henriquez.
Then you want to have a really good CF for a couple of years a lot more than you want a WS. I cannot agree with that at all.
I will be optimistic about free agency until Rendon gets snatched up.
no I want a multiple WS and I think that a Starling Marte gets you closer to that goal especially with Taveras, Thompson, JPM all expected to be ready in 2021/22. that makes for a smooth transition. not thinking now and beyond will make the move up slower and more haphazard. DDJ and Gallo are not the CF answer. Gallo needs to be in RF and DDJ needs to be somewhere else that is not the Rangers
You are trading away guys who can help you win a WS or 2 and getting a CF who can help you chase the second WC or fool's gold. We are not sniffing a WS in those two years Marte would be here. If you want to trade away prospects then do that to acquire a final piece or two when the time comes. That time is not here.
so wait and do little until
See post #1448.
what I want is a good team that can be built on with our best prospects and FA's so that we are competitive now and beyond with multiple WS appearances and wins. the "wait until" philosophy makes that time period later and later. if we aren't interested right now in improving our team with needs like CF, 3B etc now we might as well re-sign Forsythe and Federowitz and Pence and carry on with what we had last year
it gets us a good CF'er and moves Gallo to RF. a position that Gallo is more built for. if we don't care about protecting him physically then let's retain DDJ and play him and Gallo in CF and not care.
We agree pretty much then about what it gives us, although I think you are a tad optimistic. It certainly doesn't get us to the WS and more than likely it doesn't even get us a WC.
i'm talking about trading talent/prospects that are extras in our system. Apostel, Jung and Wendzel are all primary 3Bmen so 1 or more are prime trade pieces. Henriquez is one of multiple pitchers and has already been discussed by many as a prime trade piece now. Acosta has Elvis, Tejada, Basabe, Seise, etc ahead of him at SS. we have extra trade pieces now that could address needs now and in the future and still have damn good players lurking and ready to move into starting spots on our MLB roster.
Hey, I am not going to complain if we sign Rendon for 7 years. But nothing says 5 years down the road we couldn't be on this board wishing we could get rid of his contract. Now I highly doubt that but that is the risk you take. And Rendon is in select company. Seems someone said (I didn't feel like going back to look) that we would not sign anyone if we do not go past 5 years. For 95% of the players out there I say good. We have done enough stupid things just not as many as the Angels have (Wells, Matthews, Jr., Hamilton, Pujols, Trout and so on).
Apostle can play 1B. Jung and Wendzel cannot be traded now. Acosta is 17 so by the time he is MLB ready Elvis will have moved on to another position or he will be retired.
I was the one who said Sullivan said that about 5 years. That as a cookie cutter approach is a terrible idea. Every guy and every situation is unique. There have been lots of mistakes in signing guys for too long. There have also been some mistakes in not offering enough years to get a deal done when it would have been worth it. Had Beltre needed one or two more years on his deal it would have been a mistake not to give him what it took.
