Texas AD is absolutely right about athletic scholarships..

[Desean12345]

Really? Please show me where that is in the constitution.

DFCF

The NCAA doesn't allow players to make a profit using their own likeness.

https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/53506372163223552

 

[Desean12345]

^typical Cal fan

Typical southern dumbass hick from Alabama.

Two can always play at that game

 

[4down20]

The NCAA doesn't allow players to make a profit using their own likeness.

https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/53506372163223552

Yeah, show me where that is against the constitution DFCF.

 

[4down20]

Typical southern dumbass hick from Alabama.

Two can always play at that game

Says the guy who thinks people aren't allowed to enter contracts because the constitution says so.

 

[uofmarmyguy]

So they shouldn't get paid because they are amateurs, and because they are amateurs they shouldn't get paid?

There is no logical reason why they need to be amateurs in the first place. Especially in regards to selling their own image.

It makes perfect sense if you quit looking at the legal and upright personnel in the equation. The problem is the illegal, immoral people that make these rules necessary.

So I am a 5-star RB and can go to Cincinnati and sign on with Mel's used cars and legitimately sell my image as a spokesman for $30K a year. Or go to Oregon and sign with "Nike" for $85K a year. Which do you think he will choose all other things being equal?

The reality is this, shady and unscrupulous people will find a way around the system. No way Nike is truly paying him for his face when have tried and true sports stars to do that. But Nike being a major contributor to Oregon can leverage their money to divert that kid to them, it still helps them, they support Oregon and Oregon wins because of this RB, $85K a year.

Boosters will line up to lose money from their bottom line out of pride for their Alma Mater, it has been proven, time and again.

 

[fordman84]

The NCAA doesn't allow players to make a profit using their own likeness.

https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/53506372163223552

the fact that Skip has teh opposite opinion as me, tells me I'm right.

 

[4down20]

the fact that Skip has teh opposite opinion as me, tells me I'm right.

The guy is just plain dumb. It's amazing he has a job.

 

[Desean12345]

Says the guy who thinks people aren't allowed to enter contracts because the constitution says so.

The athletes should be able to get as much money as they can without restrictions from the NCAA, especially since they and the universities are making their profits of the players likeness.

 

[Desean12345]

skip bayless is normally wrong but in this case he is certainly right.

 

[HuskerOC]

why does it need to stop? why are they treated different then other students?

Sounds like a great plan.

The NFL and NBA would have imploded years ago without salary caps and drafts.

And you want to open up college athletics to the highest bidder?

 

[uofmarmyguy]

Now, I say if they want to start paying all the athletes for services rendered to school in addition to their scholarships, fine! BUT, they are then taxed based on all income received, scholarship, room and board, stipend, food the whole thing.

Heck, everyone keeps trying to play the numbers don't support the amount crap, have you seen their workout facilities? Those would easily be $300+ a month membership gyms. Not to mention the insane buffets they get at every meal, year around.

I love my team dearly and understand the challenges student athletes have. But far more are going for ballroom dancing and basket weaving than are going into molecular biology. So lets not compare academic workloads of the average student and say all athletes are the same.

 

[Desean12345]

Sounds like a great plan.

The NFL and NBA would have imploded years ago without salary caps and drafts.

And you want to open up college athletics to the highest bidder?

Why not. they are hiding behind the bogus excuse of "amateur athletes" and "student athletes."

We all know this is a lie.

If the NCAA is able to profit, the athletes should as well.

 

[HuskerOC]

Why not. they are hiding behind the bogus excuse of "amateur athletes" and "student athletes."

We all know this is a lie.

If the NCAA is able to profit, the athletes should as well.

Exactly who in the NCAA is profiting? Are they selling shares of stock that I don't know about?

I say we give them exactly what you want. A free market in which they can compete and earn their paycheck.

Lets not burden our universities and the NCAA with such childish things, and allow a new league to come about as pre-NBA and pre-NFL leagues for these great athletes. Surely there are hundreds if not thousands of legit businessmen salivating for this opportunity to create a new league of 18-22 year olds, right?

Take away the alma mater, and nobody is going to watch, much less care.

 

[Desean12345]

Exactly who in the NCAA is profiting? Are they selling shares of stock that I don't know about?

I say we give them exactly what you want. A free market in which they can compete and earn their paycheck.

Lets not burden our universities and the NCAA with such childish things, and allow a new league to come about as pre-NBA and pre-NFL leagues for these great athletes. Surely there are hundreds if not thousands of legit businessmen salivating for this opportunity to create a new league of 18-22 year olds, right?

Take away the alma mater, and nobody is going to watch, much less care.

So you agree it should be okay to pay the players, so long as the NCAA and the University or not paying the athletes correct?

Im not saying the SMU football scandal a while back should be made okay. Im saying let outside sources pay players. If a player wants to sign helmets and make a profit, go ahead. If he wants to sell his awards and trophies for tattoos like Pryor it should be made legal by the NCAA. If a famous alumni of a school wants to pay a player or players x amount of money, let it happen.

This is America.

 

[Red_Alert]

Why not. they are hiding behind the bogus excuse of "amateur athletes" and "student athletes."

We all know this is a lie.

If the NCAA is able to profit, the athletes should as well.

The athletes are profiting though. They are being compensated a free education that they can use in the real world. They are provided free room and board, medical, dental, tutors, nutritionists, physical therapists, councilors, etc..

If they take advantage of what's being offered, they walk away with more than they arrived with. In most cases that education can be used to get good employment in a better paying job than they'd have gotten without that degree. 4 years (sometimes 5 w/ a redshirt) for 40 years of good employment on the outside world, seems to be pretty good compensation to me.

They walk away with more than our military members walk away with after 4 years in uniform.

 

[Desean12345]

The athletes are profiting though. They are being compensated a free education that they can use in the real world. They are provided free room and board, medical, dental, tutors, nutritionists, physical therapists, councilors, etc..

If they take advantage of what's being offered, they walk away with more than they arrived with. In most cases that education can be used to get good employment in a better paying job than they'd have gotten without that degree. 4 years (sometimes 5 w/ a redshirt) for 40 years of good employment on the outside world, seems to be pretty good compensation to me.

They walk away with more than our military members walk away with after 4 years in uniform.

Which is nothing compared to the billions being made by the NCAA and the Universities themselves. They aren't being compensated for their proper market value.

Again why is it a problem if Manziel wants to sign helmets for a few bucks? Why is it bad that Reggie Bush wanted to get money and get his parents some luxuries? Terrelle Pryor selling stuff for tattoos? What's wrong with Neven Shapiro wanting to give Miami players extra dollars and a few nice cars?

Again, the athletes should be able to make a profit using their own likeness just like the NCAA and Universities do.

 

[4down20]

The athletes should be able to get as much money as they can without restrictions from the NCAA, especially since they and the universities are making their profits of the players likeness.

They can get as much money as they want and the NCAA has no right to stop or restrict them. And the NCAA doesn't.

The players are not forced into anything. Apparently they for some reason choose to do so.

 

[HuskerOC]

So you agree it should be okay to pay the players, so long as the NCAA and the University or not paying the athletes correct?

Im not saying the SMU football scandal a while back should be made okay. Im saying let outside sources pay players. If a player wants to sign helmets and make a profit, go ahead. If he wants to sell his awards and trophies for tattoos like Pryor it should be made legal by the NCAA. If a famous alumni of a school wants to pay a player or players x amount of money, let it happen.

This is America.

Again, you are now talking about the highest bidder.

How long do you think that model would last? 5? Maybe 10 years?

You can't throw a capitalistic model into an existing socialistic model without it causing serious stress and an eventual collapse. Great for a few. Horrific for most. But hey, to each their own, right?

 

[Desean12345]

They can get as much money as they want and the NCAA has no right to stop or restrict them. And the NCAA doesn't.

The players are not forced into anything. Apparently they for some reason choose to do so.

What? The NCAA sanctions players for rules violations all the time? Johnny Manziel, Pryor, Bush, Mayo, Green, Bryant etc, etc. They aren't allowed to make money without them and the school being sanctioned and suspended.

 

[Desean12345]

Again, you are now talking about the highest bidder.

How long do you think that model would last? 5? Maybe 10 years?

You can't throw a capitalistic model into an existing socialistic model without it causing serious stress and an eventual collapse. Great for a few. Horrific for most. But hey, to each their own, right?

I don't see why it wouldn't work, unless you think every star recruit would be going to only a couple of schools if they would go to the highest bidder. That's not logical.

Plus, they would still have to remain academically eligible in order to remain enrolled at the school.