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I really think the Lions should bring in free agent CB Terrell Thomas. He's been making the rounds a bit, but is still available, and wouldn't cost very much to lock up for two or three seasons.

Most of you likely don't know who Thomas is- in 2010 he put up one of the craziest seasons for a CB I've ever seen: 101 tackles, 21 passes defensed, 5 INTs, 4 forced fumbles, and a sack. Unfortunately, he followed that monster performance with season-ending ACL injuries in 2011 and 2012. Last year he bounced back, playing in all 16 games for the Giants (started 7) and posting 67 tackles, 7 passes defensed, 1 INT, 1 forced fumble, and 1 sack.

I'm not suggesting that he could come in and be our #1 CB and save our secondary. What I am saying is that he was a rising star a few seasons ago, is now a full season removed from major injury, and just turned 29 back in January. He's still got good years left, should come pretty cheap with the injury history, and has the size that's coveted now in the secondary (6'0", 191 lbs).

Even if he never regains his old form, if he can play at the level he played at last season he'd be an upgrade to our secondary, whether at CB or Safety.

I know we don't have much cap room to deal with, but this is a move we can afford that offers a good risk/reward ratio for us. He's got a high ceiling and a low floor, basically.

Thoughts?
 

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Well unless he is all pro at least 5 times the Lions should not even think about signing him.
 

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I really think the Lions should bring in free agent CB Terrell Thomas. He's been making the rounds a bit, but is still available, and wouldn't cost very much to lock up for two or three seasons.

Most of you likely don't know who Thomas is- in 2010 he put up one of the craziest seasons for a CB I've ever seen: 101 tackles, 21 passes defensed, 5 INTs, 4 forced fumbles, and a sack. Unfortunately, he followed that monster performance with season-ending ACL injuries in 2011 and 2012. Last year he bounced back, playing in all 16 games for the Giants (started 7) and posting 67 tackles, 7 passes defensed, 1 INT, 1 forced fumble, and 1 sack.

I'm not suggesting that he could come in and be our #1 CB and save our secondary. What I am saying is that he was a rising star a few seasons ago, is now a full season removed from major injury, and just turned 29 back in January. He's still got good years left, should come pretty cheap with the injury history, and has the size that's coveted now in the secondary (6'0", 191 lbs).

Even if he never regains his old form, if he can play at the level he played at last season he'd be an upgrade to our secondary, whether at CB or Safety.

I know we don't have much cap room to deal with, but this is a move we can afford that offers a good risk/reward ratio for us. He's got a high ceiling and a low floor, basically.

Thoughts?

I actually like this idea.....That's odd.
 

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Wonder why the Giants (and everyone else) seems uninterested in him? Maybe they think he's just a system guy, maybe be wants too much money, or maybe teams are worried about those injuries.

He has mentioned that he wants to start in 2014. Maybe teams just don't view him as a starter? Idk.

He's visited the Raiders, and no one else so far in FA.
 

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What kind of injury did he have and how much is he supposed to make?
 

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Ah ok thanks rb, I would pass on him..big injury risk combined with too much money.
 

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Ah ok thanks rb, I would pass on him..big injury risk combined with too much money.

The injury history is concerning, but he was healthy and played all 16 games last season.

The $$ part is just speculation on Swarm's part. I haven't found any sources on what he's asking for (generally not readily available info for "2nd level" free agents)...

I'd only be interested if the price was right. Too much injury history to risk any kind of substantial $$ on. The deal would have to be structured to protect us against another major injury...
 

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Also, he's had 2 ACLs, not 3, from what I've found, anyhow...
 

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Ah ok thats good news, depends on the cost. I like that he played a complete season. Alot of times tha second season back can be very rewarding after that injury.
 

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Also, he's had 2 ACLs, not 3, from what I've found, anyhow...

Actually I think it is 3. I thought he was the first player in NFL history to come back from 3 ACLs and play the entire season. Some guy on Carolina did it but he didnt play much from what I remember.

Still, if he is cheap enough I would certainly give him a shot.
 

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The $$ part is just speculation on Swarm's part. I haven't found any sources ..

I post links so that fans like yourself can verify what I say. He's had 3 ACL surgery's. It's in the 4th update down in the link provided. And he wants to be a starter. That means he is asking for starter money. That info is in the 3rd update down in the link provided.
 

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Also, he's had 2 ACLs, not 3, from what I've found, anyhow...

Nope. 3. Check the link I put up in the same post I said he had 3. For a guy you want us to sign, you don't know enough about him.
 

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3 ACL's? That's right up Mayhew's alley.
 

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3rd ACL. He wants starter $$$


What he wants and what he gets are two different amounts $$$. He still may be there after no one bites and has to sign a one year to prove himself. The one year may come cheap so TPaul just may be right.

He is ball hawk 3 tears or not. Watch his film and watch his instincts to be in right spot. Educate yourself about him instead just making assumptions from Rotoworld.
 

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Love how everyone on here is a film expert.

I'm not making assumptions. Seen him play plenty. Awful injury history, and he's looking for stater money. Those are the facts.

There's a reason no one but Oakland has looked at him yet.
 

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Love how everyone on here is a film expert.

I'm not making assumptions. Seen him play plenty. Awful injury history, and he's looking for stater money. Those are the facts.

There's a reason no one but Oakland has looked at him yet.

Never said I was film expert. Did he suck when you watched him play, never stated expert opinion of facts about his play. You did have a factly opinion of Levy that was off...

I assume your assumption of Levy before last season was spot on. Yes??
 

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Why are we talking about Levy?

TT is ok. But he's no starter, he has a lot of past injuries, and so far, the Lions aren't even looking at him. So I don't know what the point is.
 

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There's a big difference between a guy wanting to be a starter and him asking for market level "starter money."


Given his situation he won't get "starter money" even if he does land a shot to compete for a starting job...
 

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You make a lot of firm assumptions based on little tid-bits that you read...
 
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