Game Thread: SUPER BOWL SUNDAY CHIEFS/EAGLES 6:30 PM On FOX

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Congrats KC fans on last nights victory.

Someone needs to set that field turf on fire cause that was a disgrace.
The warts on this Eagles team showed up last night. Gannon's defense failing to make plays against an above average QB bites them in the ass and again piss poor special teams reared it's ugly head. Yeah that fumble by Hurts was a killer but he played a hell of a game and finally the Miles sanders era comes to an end. Eagles should have an easy blue print come draft time and should be a SB contender next season.

 

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Nope this was special grass grown specifically for this game

What type of grass does State Farm Stadium have?​

The turf is Tahoma 31. Tahoma 31 is a hybrid of two types of Bermuda grasses and rye grass and was developed at Oklahoma State University and monitored by Dr. Yanqi Wu, who started the process of creating it in 2006.

The Super Bowl turf was grown in Scottsdale, Arizona, at West Coast Turf, about 45 miles east of the stadium where this year’s Super Bowl will be played.

C'mon man, it's grass. You can say it's special grass developed for strength, flexibility, durability, easy maintenance, or whatever...but it's grass. The game started at 16:43 at 25 degrees Celsius. Sunset was around 17:30. The stadium roof was open. Everyone KNOWS what happens to grass in regards to dew. Very few NFL games go through daylight into night time in dry weather under an open roof. Conditions under foot were always going to be changeable. Maybe they should have insisted on the roof being closed, or a 1-off surface, or hold the game at a different location/time...but what happened was predictable. There wasn't anything wrong with the field.

 

[jarntt]

Guess we'll never know, since holds can have multiple effects.
Obviously it slows the runner down, holds can also change the route being ran.
Without the hold maybe the WR is farther upfield than you believe he'd be, and maybe Mahomes gets a better view on where to throw the ball.

In hindsight one thing the Eagles should have done, on first down. Instead of just watching the RB run to the 1, they should have forcefully escorted him into the EZ.

Or pretended to want to tackle him. He seemed to be going hard for the end zone until he realized they were purposefully staying away. I’m not so sure he would have had the wherewithal to go down if not for how obvious they made it

 

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Much more slippage was experienced in the painted areas of the field.

Another known phenomenon. Racing drivers stay off painted lines when racing in the wet because there's less grip.

 

[jarntt]

C'mon man, it's grass. You can say it's special grass developed for strength, flexibility, durability, easy maintenance, or whatever...but it's grass. The game started at 16:43 at 25 degrees Celsius. Sunset was around 17:30. The stadium roof was open. Everyone KNOWS what happens to grass in regards to dew. Very few NFL games go through daylight into night time in dry weather under an open roof. Conditions under foot were always going to be changeable. Maybe they should have insisted on the roof being closed, or a 1-off surface, or hold the game at a different location/time...but what happened was predictable. There wasn't anything wrong with the field.

This was not a normal run of the mill slippage issue. Something about that field last night was shit

 

[cowboycolors]

C'mon man, it's grass. You can say it's special grass developed for strength, flexibility, durability, easy maintenance, or whatever...but it's grass. The game started at 16:43 at 25 degrees Celsius. Sunset was around 17:30. The stadium roof was open. Everyone KNOWS what happens to grass in regards to dew. Very few NFL games go through daylight into night time in dry weather under an open roof. Conditions under foot were always going to be changeable. Maybe they should have insisted on the roof being closed, or a 1-off surface, or hold the game at a different location/time...but what happened was predictable. There wasn't anything wrong with the field.

It was a problem. The guy who was in charge of laying the new grass George Toma is known as the Sodfather. He used to make candlestick park grass playable way back in the 90’s when the Cowboys and San Francisco played for the championship. Candlestick park had the worst grass in the NFL back then.

The playing surface was terrible and that is the NFL‘s fault. The surface was not like that for the Cardinals games and I would bet you it won’t be the grass they play on this fall. Playing a Super Bowl on a field like that is 100% unacceptable with today’s technology.

 

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This was not a normal run of the mill slippage issue. Something about that field last night was shit

It's not rain and it's not fully open field. It's dew under what was effectively a partial roof. The moisture levels weren't going to be consistent across the field and they were going to change during the game. Play the game 3 hours earlier or 3 hours later and they're wouldn't have been an issue. Maybe they should have just saturated the field with the sprinkler system so it would have been more consistent.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

It was a problem. The guy who was in charge of laying the new grass George Toma is known as the Sodfather. He used to make candlestick park grass playable way back in the 90’s when the Cowboys and San Francisco played for the championship. Candlestick park had the worst grass in the NFL back then.

The playing surface was terrible and that is the NFL‘s fault. The surface was not like that for the Cardinals games and I would bet you it won’t be the grass they play on this fall. Playing a Super Bowl on a field like that is 100% unacceptable with today’s technology.

Yep. i've never seen the field that slippery. I though it was the excessive amount of paint on the field. I am not sure why they would change things when that field is normally considered one of the best surfaces to play on by the players.

 

[fastforward]

It was a problem. The guy who was in charge of laying the new grass George Toma is known as the Sodfather. He used to make candlestick park grass playable way back in the 90’s when the Cowboys and San Francisco played for the championship. Candlestick park had the worst grass in the NFL back then.

The playing surface was terrible and that is the NFL‘s fault. The surface was not like that for the Cardinals games and I would bet you it won’t be the grass they play on this fall. Playing a Super Bowl on a field like that is 100% unacceptable with today’s technology.

Candlestick was an open stadium that was always boggy due to the height compared to sea level. It was also very windy. People were expecting this field to be bone dry and for a few hours each day it isn't.

Was footing a problem? Absolutely. Did it detract from the game experience? Absolutely. The NFL screwed up playing the game on that surface, at that time of day, in that location. Individually the surface, time of day, and location were all fine, just a bad combination.

 

[cowboycolors]

NFL Blasted by Twitter as Super Bowl Field for Chiefs-Eagles Deemed 'Absolute Trash' — Bleacher Report

During Sunday's Super Bowl LVII at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, the Philadelphia Eagles and Kansas City Chiefs noticeably had to work through...

apple.news

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

NFL Blasted by Twitter as Super Bowl Field for Chiefs-Eagles Deemed 'Absolute Trash' — Bleacher Report

During Sunday's Super Bowl LVII at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, the Philadelphia Eagles and Kansas City Chiefs noticeably had to work through...

apple.news

Just the latest black eye for the NFL in the long list of them they've had over the last few decades.
But to get that one in the league's most important and largest viewed game is really something else.
That said...they luckily dodged a bullet that there weren't any serious injuries as a result.

 

[molsaniceman]

Players slip during Super Bowl played on turfgrass developed by Oklahoma State University

One of the major storylines coming out of Super Bowl LVII is how slick the turf was at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona.

www.koco.com

 

[molsaniceman]

The grass at State Farm Stadium is on a giant tray that is rolled in and out of the retractable roof stadium. The field sits out in the Arizona sun on warm days and is brought back inside when it gets cold.

 

[Rowdy]

I heard eagles d-coordinator is pissed. They brought Vic fangio in as a consultant before his new gig is legit in Miami.

 

[LeroyOU12]

Lucky hit? He beat a back up TE cleanly and he attacked the throwing arm. Lucky? He intends to attack the football. Holy shit! Is your goal showing everybody that you really don’t know fuck all about the game of football?!?!?!? Really seems that way. Was the Suh knocking out Johnson “lucky” as well? He also beat his man cleanly and was able to get a straight shot in on the QB. This isn’t Aaron Donald. Suh had 1 sack in 8 regular season games. 1 sack. He’s not some elite pass rush guy. He’s an over the hill DT signed to sure up the run. Your whale shit pass pro gave him a free run at the QB. This is why you come off like a little bitter bitch fan Boi that doesn’t know the game. You can’t claim “it would have been different if only” when the condition that created you losing your QB wasn’t an aberration. It was the norm of what took place that day. The Eagles DL completely dominated your protection schemes. Your offensive line didn’t even belong on the field with the Eagles that day. 2 weeks later you’re still running your mouth. That shit is sad.

Lights, this you and NK last night?

 

[Manster7588]

There was nothing wrong with the field. It was an ordinary grass field, and it behaved in the exact same way you should expect a grass field to behave as you go from daylight into dusk, sundown, and nightfall. Dew is a natural phenomena, as is condensation.

You know it was indoors, in Arizona, 3:30 PM don't you?

I don't think DEW was in play.

 

[Wazmankg]

Lights, this you and NK last night?

Wow.. I wonder if that's his TV. Nuts.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Wow.. I wonder if that's his TV. Nuts.

Staged. Read dude is a comedian.

 

[cwerph]

Yep. i've never seen the field that slippery. I though it was the excessive amount of paint on the field. I am not sure why they would change things when that field is normally considered one of the best surfaces to play on by the players.

I have. Last year - Xichigan vs TCU. A few years ago - Ohio State vs Clemson. The good guys won both of those games.

 

[Manster7588]

If you can go back fifty years, I can go back 60 or 70 years including Eagles three title years; 1948, 1949, and 1960. So Eagles are 4-3 in lifetime NFL championships.

So Philadelphia has been in existence for 27 more years and still have less championships

Dallas 5 -3
Eagles 4- 4

Keep in mind the pre SB championships ,1960 Houston won the Championship 1948 and 49 the Browns won Championships.

The Eagles have ONE undisputed trophy, and they overachieved to get it.