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Buckle up Dan. It's coming!!

 

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Shula was a head coach with Baltimore from 1963-1969 and with the Dolphins from 1970-1995 31 years.

BB was the Brown coach 5 years and has been with the Pat's for 20.. He should coach for 6 more years and quit wheter or not he beats Shula's record. He needs 49 wins to go past Shula. How about winning 12, 12, 17, 17, 17 and calling it quits with 9 Super Bowls and the entire last year and half just piling it on. Tell Marino to intercourse with himself.
 

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Shula was a head coach with Baltimore from 1963-1969 and with the Dolphins from 1970-1995 31 years.

BB was the Brown coach 5 years and has been with the Pat's for 20.. He should coach for 6 more years and quit wheter or not he beats Shula's record. He needs 49 wins to go past Shula. How about winning 12, 12, 17, 17, 17 and calling it quits with 9 Super Bowls and the entire last year and half just piling it on. Tell Marino to intercourse with himself.
I'll settle for 4 more winning seasons and 2 more SB's.
 

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This isn't really stupid but....................

My brother in law died this past week and his wake is tonight and funeral is tomorrow.

I doubt if anything breaks but I won't be back until Sunday.

Stay vigilant guys.
 

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This isn't really stupid but....................

My brother in law died this past week and his wake is tonight and funeral is tomorrow.

I doubt if anything breaks but I won't be back until Sunday.

Stay vigilant guys.
Sorry for your loss, assuming he was a good guy and will be missed.
 

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Sorry for your loss, assuming he was a good guy and will be missed.
I'm back. He wasn't a bad guy, just a self made multi-millionaire. I love my sister in laws as much as humanly possible and I'm happy that she doesn't have to clean up after him any more. I mean literally wipe up the mess he'd leave behind.

Being the asshole that I am, she asked me for some private time, which pissed a bunch of people off. She asked for some advice. The vultures were starting to circle...."what are you going to do with this or that?" Simple answer my love. End the conversation completely. "I'm keeping everything!!" If you tell them you don't know, they'll keep coming back or they'll just take it. "When will his will be read?" Simple answer, "After my lawyer and his lawyer review it and make sure that Probate isn't involved. Then they will read it to me and if anyone else is named, they will be notified by the attorneys." Fuck them. they aren't your kids and will cut your throat in a heartbeat. Beat them to the to it and use a samurai sword.

I enjoyed being me for fifteen minutes.

He had three kids by a previous wife that ended nearly 35 years ago. He and my sister in law have been together since a year or two after through thick and thin. Two of his kids have never once visited them since the wedding and his third kid, a son, only came around when he needed a handout. Of course the tears were overflowing Friday and Saturday. Maybe they were crying for themselves for not ever being around while he was alive.
 

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I'm back. He wasn't a bad guy, just a self made multi-millionaire. I love my sister in laws as much as humanly possible and I'm happy that she doesn't have to clean up after him any more. I mean literally wipe up the mess he'd leave behind.

Being the asshole that I am, she asked me for some private time, which pissed a bunch of people off. She asked for some advice. The vultures were starting to circle...."what are you going to do with this or that?" Simple answer my love. End the conversation completely. "I'm keeping everything!!" If you tell them you don't know, they'll keep coming back or they'll just take it. "When will his will be read?" Simple answer, "After my lawyer and his lawyer review it and make sure that Probate isn't involved. Then they will read it to me and if anyone else is named, they will be notified by the attorneys." Fuck them. they aren't your kids and will cut your throat in a heartbeat. Beat them to the to it and use a samurai sword.

I enjoyed being me for fifteen minutes.

He had three kids by a previous wife that ended nearly 35 years ago. He and my sister in law have been together since a year or two after through thick and thin. Two of his kids have never once visited them since the wedding and his third kid, a son, only came around when he needed a handout. Of course the tears were overflowing Friday and Saturday. Maybe they were crying for themselves for not ever being around while he was alive.
Wise words and advice BK. Sorry for your loss
 

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I'm back. He wasn't a bad guy, just a self made multi-millionaire. I love my sister in laws as much as humanly possible and I'm happy that she doesn't have to clean up after him any more. I mean literally wipe up the mess he'd leave behind.

Being the asshole that I am, she asked me for some private time, which pissed a bunch of people off. She asked for some advice. The vultures were starting to circle...."what are you going to do with this or that?" Simple answer my love. End the conversation completely. "I'm keeping everything!!" If you tell them you don't know, they'll keep coming back or they'll just take it. "When will his will be read?" Simple answer, "After my lawyer and his lawyer review it and make sure that Probate isn't involved. Then they will read it to me and if anyone else is named, they will be notified by the attorneys." Fuck them. they aren't your kids and will cut your throat in a heartbeat. Beat them to the to it and use a samurai sword.

I enjoyed being me for fifteen minutes.

He had three kids by a previous wife that ended nearly 35 years ago. He and my sister in law have been together since a year or two after through thick and thin. Two of his kids have never once visited them since the wedding and his third kid, a son, only came around when he needed a handout. Of course the tears were overflowing Friday and Saturday. Maybe they were crying for themselves for not ever being around while he was alive.
My 2 cents to add.

When they start talking about everything she has done wrong or is doing, she should hold her head up and ignore the talk.
You can never convince them that you are anything they don't want to believe. Any attempt to deal with their complaints will only serve to make things worse.

My favorite line when someone asks a question you don't want to answer?
Why would you ask that? and walk away!
 

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When they start talking about everything she has done wrong or is doing, she should hold her head up and ignore the talk.
You can never convince them that you are anything they don't want to believe. Any attempt to deal with their complaints will only serve to make things worse.
For his kids, they're the ones that never had anything to do with dad. Even when he was healthy and hauling in the dough. Kind of hard to say anything about a wife who spent the final months his life feeding him, bathing him, cleaning an entire house because he got up in the middle of the night and shit everywhere from the bedroom, to the kitchen to the living room and tried to hide it by wiping it all with bath towels and putting the towels in the oven. Of course he wasn't doing anything more than spreading it around. She stayed with him until he took the last one and only put him in a hospice for the last two days of his life because the doctor would not allow her to take him home.
 

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For his kids, they're the ones that never had anything to do with dad. Even when he was healthy and hauling in the dough. Kind of hard to say anything about a wife who spent the final months his life feeding him, bathing him, cleaning an entire house because he got up in the middle of the night and shit everywhere from the bedroom, to the kitchen to the living room and tried to hide it by wiping it all with bath towels and putting the towels in the oven. Of course he wasn't doing anything more than spreading it around. She stayed with him until he took the last one and only put him in a hospice for the last two days of his life because the doctor would not allow her to take him home.
A true angel.
 

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I'm back. He wasn't a bad guy, just a self made multi-millionaire. I love my sister in laws as much as humanly possible and I'm happy that she doesn't have to clean up after him any more. I mean literally wipe up the mess he'd leave behind.

Being the asshole that I am, she asked me for some private time, which pissed a bunch of people off. She asked for some advice. The vultures were starting to circle...."what are you going to do with this or that?" Simple answer my love. End the conversation completely. "I'm keeping everything!!" If you tell them you don't know, they'll keep coming back or they'll just take it. "When will his will be read?" Simple answer, "After my lawyer and his lawyer review it and make sure that Probate isn't involved. Then they will read it to me and if anyone else is named, they will be notified by the attorneys." Fuck them. they aren't your kids and will cut your throat in a heartbeat. Beat them to the to it and use a samurai sword.

I enjoyed being me for fifteen minutes.

He had three kids by a previous wife that ended nearly 35 years ago. He and my sister in law have been together since a year or two after through thick and thin. Two of his kids have never once visited them since the wedding and his third kid, a son, only came around when he needed a handout. Of course the tears were overflowing Friday and Saturday. Maybe they were crying for themselves for not ever being around while he was alive.

For his kids, they're the ones that never had anything to do with dad. Even when he was healthy and hauling in the dough. Kind of hard to say anything about a wife who spent the final months his life feeding him, bathing him, cleaning an entire house because he got up in the middle of the night and shit everywhere from the bedroom, to the kitchen to the living room and tried to hide it by wiping it all with bath towels and putting the towels in the oven. Of course he wasn't doing anything more than spreading it around. She stayed with him until he took the last one and only put him in a hospice for the last two days of his life because the doctor would not allow her to take him home.
I have a different take. The "kids" are his legacy and deserve something. Based on your words I don't think they deserve any input over what that is.

First and foremost: she needs to separate out what she needs to live comfortably. After that she should take an amount that commiserates with the value of the care services she provided that went above and beyond what should be expected. From that remainder she should keep half and divide the second half by his remaining direct heirs.

Again, whether shits or perfect children, they deserve a legacy share from their dad.
 

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Again, whether shits or perfect children, they deserve a legacy share from their dad.
I don't want to beat this to death, but they never treated him as their 'dad'. No Christmas, no birthdays. One has even spoken to the man for more than 25 years but was a tear factory for two days. The other two weren't much better. If he left them something, then so be it. If he didn't, then they have no one to blame but themselves.
 

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I have a different take. The "kids" are his legacy and deserve something. Based on your words I don't think they deserve any input over what that is.

First and foremost: she needs to separate out what she needs to live comfortably. After that she should take an amount that commiserates with the value of the care services she provided that went above and beyond what should be expected. From that remainder she should keep half and divide the second half by his remaining direct heirs.

Again, whether shits or perfect children, they deserve a legacy share from their dad.
That's one take on it. What is Dad's instructions?
If he left it all to his wife and he knew what he was doing, why should anybody chime in?

I f she feels that they should have gotten something, she can address that with her will.
Now since this was a 2nd marriage, some states the kids can request to be taken care of outside the will.
 

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Now since this was a 2nd marriage, some states the kids can request to be taken care of outside the will.
Not sure about Maine.

She sure in hell won't leave anything to his kids. Her two adult children have been more like his own children. Her son built his step father's garage and apartment above it and helped with just about all of the heavy lifting for the lakeside property. He got to live in the garage while he built it and renovated his own place. Just my observations over the past 28 years.
 

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Not sure about Maine.

She sure in hell won't leave anything to his kids. Her two adult children have been more like his own children. Her son built his step father's garage and apartment above it and helped with just about all of the heavy lifting for the lakeside property. He got to live in the garage while he built it and renovated his own place. Just my observations over the past 28 years.
I was not suggesting she should do that.....
 

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I don't want to beat this to death, but they never treated him as their 'dad'. No Christmas, no birthdays. One has even spoken to the man for more than 25 years but was a tear factory for two days. The other two weren't much better. If he left them something, then so be it. If he didn't, then they have no one to blame but themselves.
Yeah, my response was completely on principle. I recognize the take no responsibility, but act like you always care routine. Again my point is they deserve something and not necessarily a "fair share". Don't underappreciate this one fact: Whatever they did to their Dad (showing no attention is a form of "doing something"), they did far worse to themselves. It may not seems so, but they have.

Again, the way I see it, and wills and probate laws actually spell this out, an estate should be carved out into several blocks and each block divided up. One block is a legacy block in which all heirs share equally. Another block based on service to the benefactor.

This experience partially influences my opinion.
Warning: long personal story below.
My mom had a Aunt who died after never marrying. She lived with her sister who never married and their brother who was a priest. The house they lived in was bought by their parents and my grandmother was their fourth child. My grandmother died first and had little other than community property with my grandfather. The brother died next and left everything to his surviving sisters. Aunt #1 died next and left claim to the family property to her sister and gave her personal wealth mostly to my mom and my mom's sister. The surviving sister was later cared for by my mom's sister who live a few miles away. Then when she passed gave almost the entire estate to my mom's sister. Did my aunt deserve all? Her aunt had plenty since she never married and never had substantial expenses. My mom got over it because she loved her sister, but felt the legacy property should have been divided more fairly...
 

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Again, the way I see it, and wills and probate laws actually spell this out, an estate should be carved out into several blocks and each block divided up. One block is a legacy block in which all heirs share equally. Another block based on service to the benefactor.

If you don't love your family, it's your loss. If you fail to ever take part in anything with your family, again, it's your loss. One should never expect more than they gave.

My grandson's father abandoned his mother (my daughter) when she was two months pregnant. There are no pictures. He's never seen or known his father. I've been his father and grandfather his entire life. My three kids all know that they will each get 15% of whatever money is left. My grandson gets 55% and my home. I can't ever fill the empty hole inside him. The people I feel most sorry for are the grandparents who probably don't know that he exists.
 

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I can't ever fill the empty hole inside him. The people I feel most sorry for are the grandparents who probably don't know that he exists.
I disagree. How would his life be with that asshole in it? People who have had cancerous tumors also have holes inside of them. Do they really want their tumors back? (yes I know they don't leave holes inside people, but why ruin a good analogy)

There are plenty of people who did not get the opportunity to have the assholes in their lives leave. I'm not saying your grandson didn't deserve better. Just that the asshole would never have been the one providing it. Instead you did and he's way ahead for it.

We get stuck on pictures and we picture the mom and dad as part of the happy life. The reality is this: Whatever gets the job done is the perfect picture. So many are raised by one or even two assholes and are far worse than those who got good guidance from wherever it came. Look, this isn't a perfect kumbaya statement. We all know plenty of kids are left behind during the raising process, and it's not exclusive to kids with only 1 parent or none.
 

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I disagree. How would his life be with that asshole in it? People who have had cancerous tumors also have holes inside of them. Do they really want their tumors back? (yes I know they don't leave holes inside people, but why ruin a good analogy)

There are plenty of people who did not get the opportunity to have the assholes in their lives leave. I'm not saying your grandson didn't deserve better. Just that the asshole would never have been the one providing it. Instead you did and he's way ahead for it.

We get stuck on pictures and we picture the mom and dad as part of the happy life. The reality is this: Whatever gets the job done is the perfect picture. So many are raised by one or even two assholes and are far worse than those who got good guidance from wherever it came. Look, this isn't a perfect kumbaya statement. We all know plenty of kids are left behind during the raising process, and it's not exclusive to kids with only 1 parent or none.
OK. My "grandmother" Left my 12 yo mother and 10 yo uncle standing on a curb. She said "good luck" as she drove off with a man not her husband. My grandmother came to visit when I was 15. She went about making fun of how my mother, si9ster and I lived. I threw her out of our house.
As an adult my mother called crying one day. I asked her what was wrong. She said Nana had died. I said "good, she's in hell where she belongs!"
I explained there are many who have been hurt by others and they suffer with trying to justify someone who really is just a bad person.

My stepfather had emergency heart surgery many years ago and I flew back to California at my own expense to take care of his business and personal affairs. In his will he had a percentage for me. Before he passed it became necessary to liquidate assets to pay for his well being. He died insolvent. He took good care of my mother until her death. I was very happy that his needs were taken care of until he passed.

My 2nd wife passed and left me with 2 teenage daughters. They did not accept me as their father. When my wife and I discussed things, I asked her to leave her diamond jewelry to me. I wanted to give them to my daughters directly. My relationship with my daughters is very strong.. I was delighted to turn over their mom's jewelry and very happy to see them wearing it when they got married. When I die I will leave everything to my wife. When she passes it will be divided among my 3 kids equally. She will have what's left of my estate and her mother's estate. If she dies 1st it will all be left to me. It will then go to my kids when I pass.

Circumstances are very different in each of all our cases. The needs and wishes of the deceased should be paramount but there are cases where there are other responsibilities. Certainly, the needs of your wife should come 1st but sometimes children should be considered.
I submit that if your kids totally ignored you, some of that responsibility falls back on you. My children are my legacy. I treated them that way and they treat me that way. Kids seem to love good parents!
 
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