SportsHoopla's Most Storied Program Tournament - (3) USC vs (6) Alabama

[TheRobotDevil]

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Almost caught up with Alabama's 5043. Good job.

 

[Rolltide94]

When don't they have homer goggles on . Difference being bama fans are fine with the hype and media. I hate when SC gets the media. True champions are decided on the field not by coaches or media. I'm thankful for the playoffs and the end of fake titles and the beginning of true champions

Oh, so SC has 0 National Championships as well, just like Alabama and everybody else but Ohio St. I'm glad we have that cleared up. I was starting to think you thought your opinion had a wide spread support, and not just the cloud coo coo land fringe vote.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Oh, so SC has 0 National Championships as well, just like Alabama and everybody else but Ohio St. I'm glad we have that cleared up. I was starting to think you thought your opinion had a wide spread support, and not just the cloud coo coo land fringe vote.

Now you're stretching still waiting for you to validate the list of false titles I posted. Pist an SC list of titles you question and I'll give you valid answers. Hell I'll even discredit any that you have a legit claim on. Or you can just talk in circles and believe in imaginary titles

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I'll advance the list of fake titles you claim to make it easier for y'all and you can try justifying them one at a time

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1925 National Championship - Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

 

[Rolltide94]

Now you're stretching still waiting for you to validate the list of false titles I posted. Pist an SC list of titles you question and I'll give you valid answers. Hell I'll even discredit any that you have a legit claim on. Or you can just talk in circles and believe in imaginary titles

Use any number you want, what ever criteria you use, Alabama still has more than USC. And any way you want to categorize it, USC's all time record is full of lesser division teams, although clearly no FCS teams at game time.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1926 National Championship - Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records.Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Use any number you want

Actually I'm interested in seeing you justify the stat you provided . I would be more than happy to justify our nattys truthfully

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1930 National Championship - The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933.

 

[4down20]

1925 National Championship - Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

All titles before 1936 are claimed retroactively by all schools. It's the normal standard for claiming National Titles that everyone uses.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1934 National Championship - Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1941 National Championship - This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year.

 

[4down20]

Btw, for the 1925, 1926 and 1930 seasons, Alabama went to the Rose Bowl in each of them for a record of 2-0-1.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1964 National Championship - While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1965 National Championship - The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0

 

[4down20]

1934 National Championship - Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946.

Alabama also won the Rose Bowl in 1934.

I guess I should have known this one was coming and mentioned it from the start.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1973 National Championship - AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

1978 National Championship - AP gives this to Alabama (11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? UPI gave the NC to USC

 

[4down20]

1964 National Championship - While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

As was the standard. Hell, Notre Dame wouldn't even play in a bowl game until they started doing polls after it.

They changed it, and Alabama won it again the next year.

1965 National Championship - The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0

So I guess bowl games are only important when Alabama loses? Since you mention Nebraska, who Alabama beat in the Orange Bowl.