SportsHoopla Top 25 Week 7 Discussion thread

[4down20]

That team beat TEN bowl eligible teams. Which I believe is a record.

So you finally ranked them after the season was over?

 

[uncfan103]

2 people who are known for putting out the worst polls on the forum had Northwestern #1. And this past weekend it showed just how dumb it was to have them there.

And then you have Ohio St #14. Which is about as bad as Alabama at #21. Ok, maybe you don't put them in the #1 spot, but #14? Seriously? Because they aren't winning "pretty"? That's what you think football games are about - winning pretty?

Did you even rank the 2009 Alabama team in the top25?

When will you realize that something that happens after the polls come out cannot validate or refute rankings? I had northwestern number 1 because they had the best resume through 6 weeks. Not because I thought they were the best team. That's what everyone who had Northwestern number 1 was saying. You're Never going to understand some peoples rankings until you realize that not everyone has the same criteria as you (including the committee)

 

[4down20]

When will you realize that something that happens after the polls come out cannot validate or refute rankings? I had northwestern number 1 because they had the best resume through 6 weeks. Not because I thought they were the best team. That's what everyone who had Northwestern number 1 was saying. You're Never going to understand some peoples rankings until you realize that not everyone has the same criteria as you (including the committee)

They didn't have the best resume. It was all fluff as was pointed out BEFORE this week and why it was said during LAST week it was a terrible and stupid ranking.

I understand lots of peoples rankings. I just point out the ones that are dumb.

 

[uncfan103]

They didn't have the best resume. It was all fluff as was pointed out BEFORE this week and why it was said during LAST week it was a terrible and stupid ranking.

I understand lots of peoples rankings. I just point out the ones that are dumb.

If you think a resume is based off of who had the best wins and losses, Northwestern had a top 5 resume last week

 

[theSabanator20]

So you finally ranked them after the season was over?

They had beaten 8 before they played Florida. And I was brand new to the boards on ESPN in 2009. I didn't even do polls for a while. I mean, I'm still in college. As a matter of fact, I didn't even do rankings until I came to this board.

 

[4down20]

If you think a resume is based off of who had the best wins and losses, Northwestern had a top 5 resume last week

If you are stupid and pretend like every team is magically equal at the end of the year rather than using common sense that says - well that team may be 2-3, but they are a much better opponent than that 5-0 team.

 

[TigersBleaux]

Top 25
1. Baylor
2. Clemson
3. Utah
4. Ohio state
5. TCU
6. Florida
7. Alabama
8. LSU
9. Michigan
10. Texas A&M
11. Michigan state
12. FSU
13. Notre dame
14. Okie state
15. Ole miss
16. Iowa
17. UCLA
18. Cal
19. Northwestern
20. Stanford
21. Oklahoma
22. Boise state
23. Temple
24. Houston
25. Mississippi state

 

[uncfan103]

If you are stupid and pretend like every team is magically equal at the end of the year rather than using common sense that says - well that team may be 2-3, but they are a much better opponent than that 5-0 team.

i don't project what teams will do in the future. But, I don't feel like a win over 5-0 Toledo is as good as a win over Tennessee

 

[4down20]

They had beaten 8 before they played Florida. And I was brand new to the boards on ESPN in 2009. I didn't even do polls for a while. I mean, I'm still in college. As a matter of fact, I didn't even do rankings until I came to this board.

You don't know teams are bowl eligible until minimum week 7, if not towards the end of the year for many of the teams because well you know, they have to win the games to become bowl eligible.

Meanwhile, before those teams were bowl eligible, we were struggling to beat Tennessee and needed a blocked FG to win it. Almost lost to Auburn, etc.

We won the same way Ohio St is winning now. Ugly.

 

[4down20]

i don't project what teams will do in the future

Yeah because it's better to be completely blind rather than just had a bad vision.

 

[TigerBait1971]

YOU IS ALL SUSPECT!

 

[TigersBleaux]

Top 25
1. Baylor
2. Clemson
3. Utah
4. Ohio state
5. TCU
6. Florida
7. Alabama
8. LSU
9. Michigan
10. Texas A&M
11. Michigan state
12. FSU
13. Notre dame
14. Okie state
15. Ole miss
16. Iowa
17. UCLA
18. Cal
19. Northwestern
20. Stanford
21. Oklahoma
22. Boise state
23. Temple
24. Houston
25. Mississippi state

Fuck me posted on wrong thread

 

[uncfan103]

Yeah because it's better to be completely blind rather than just had a bad vision.

Yep. It's better to use what we know rather than what we think we know.

But, I did my rankings differently this week. Tried to ignore the resume a little more and use the eye test a little more

 

[outofyourmind]

Maybe I'm doing these all wrong. I go at it this way.
1) Take the P5 Conferences and list teams that are undefeated/1 loss/2 loss.
2) Use a separate column for Independents and mid major conference teams doing well.
3) Rank teams within each conference from #1 to about #5-#6
4) Take the teams I think are the best in their Conference and how they would fare vs other projected conference leaders.
5) Right now all those at the top are undefeated and I have no teams with 2 losses in my poll at this time.
6) Some 1 loss teams will be in front of some undefeated teams based on wins and perceived resume'.

This method does a few of things.
1) There really wont be 2 teams from 1 conference in the top 4. I'm not a believer in that. If they aren't the best in their conference they certainly aren't best in the nation.
2) Poll has some huge swings sometimes.
3) I never look at one of my previous polls ever. It's week by week.

I ponder on it for a while and do this.
1) Make changes based on flawed 1st analysis, sometimes big, but mainly these are not in the top 4-8.
2) Look at it some more to see if I left any team off, and make some more minor adjustments.

Post My Poll, and this still happens.
1) Find 1-2 teams out of place.
2) Not big enough to worry about for a single week.
3) Try to get better the next week.

If you have a problem with #8-#25, well, those teams should have just played better, and I don't worry about it much because if they need to be ranked higher, they'll get my attention in a few weeks.

 

[rmilia1]

Iowa sucks and hasn't played anyone.

Eh, Pitt and Wisky are both fringe Top 25 teams. Just like 2 best teams Bama beat. Only difference in the 2 schedules is Bama lost to the only legit top 25 team either team has played

 

[4down20]

Yep. It's better to use what we know rather than what we think we know.

But, I did my rankings differently this week. Tried to ignore the resume a little more and use the eye test a little more

You do know, you just pretend like you don't.

It's not a surprise Northwestern got killed by Michgian - unless you pretend like you don't know about the teams in general.

 

[4down20]

Eh, Pitt and Wisky are both fringe Top 25 teams. Just like 2 best teams Bama beat. Only difference in the 2 schedules is Bama lost to the only legit top 25 team either team has played

If you think Iowa and Alabama have had similar performances while playing what you call equal opponents then I don't know what games you are watching.

 

[uncfan103]

You do know, you just pretend like you don't.

It's not a surprise Northwestern got killed by Michgian - unless you pretend like you don't know about the teams in general.

okay. I don't agree with you. But okay

 

[rmilia1]

If you think Iowa and Alabama have had similar performances while playing what you call equal opponents then I don't know what games you are watching.

No of course they aren't equal. Alabama lost.

 

[SteelersPride]

ill participate where doi post my rankings